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Reply #15 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 1:26pm
 
thanks mantra, thats really good.
At times when we have been out west on a trip we get into a "different " place.
Is really awful coming back. Entering built up areas, it just feels wrong.
We feel that we both want to go back. We felt cleaner and simpler there.

I was lying down in the bush around ere a whie afo. Aborigines came by speaking in their "burbling creek" tongue. Then they just vanished. 
I saw them, about 6 of them. Looked away, looked up again, gone.

will study your positing later.
going for bike ride soon

take care
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Reply #16 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 1:48pm
 
mantra wrote on Jun 17th, 2007 at 1:04pm:
Examples of aboriginal dreaming freediver :-

The aboriginals have known whether people are alive or dead through their dreams.  They have known where people are located by signs they have received in their dreams.  The reason I assume that this is not so real now to the aboriginals is because many of the elders are dying and the young aboriginal may not be as spiritual as his ancestors.  I could be wrong and if you think otherwise, I would be interested.

There is a lot to read on this - but this is just an extract.

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The Dreaming, or tjukurpa, as it is known to Central Australian Aboriginals, is eternal and is existence itself, in the past, present and future. It is also the explanation of existence, and it is the law which governs behaviour. The Tjukurpa refers to the time of creation of all things, and it is still unfolding alongside present events and is being recreated and celebrated today.

Concepts of Space and Time are integral to the understanding of the Dreaming. Aboriginal and Western thought share an interdependency of time and space, but our deep yearning and spiritual search for the elusive "present moment" and "eternal life" seems of no consequence to the Aborigine. For the Aborigines, the present moment and eternity have been physicalized as place. One is alive in the moment by being utterly grounded and centred in space.

Aborigines do not perceive space as distance. Space for them is consciousness. All satial relationships in the Dreaming are primarily symbolic. Meaning and information are not transported across distances and time; they are not transported across distances and time; they are an integral part of consciousness expressing itself as spatial order and form. To the Aborigines, the spatial landscape is a perfect symbolic description of the psychic content of humans and of the ancestral forces that created the world. To disturb the earth in any way is to obscure the meaning and history of humanity and reality. Knowledge is shared through resonance in space and time. Meaning, not space and time, connects all things.

The Dreaming stories contain, in addition to moral, spiritual and psychic understanding, all kinds of practical information. A story may direct a hunting band to places where the lilies bloom, where turtle eggs hatch, or where wild yams ripen. The clan follows the stories from place to place without a calendar. The Aborigines move through space, and we move through time.

Aboriginal stories, be they about life or the Dreaming, focus on place descriptions and spatial directions rather than designations such as when, before or after.

Landscape Within as Without

In the Dreaming there is no external space separate from the internal. There are no objects or events - be they stars, spaceships, or molecules - separate from the feelings, desires, projections, activities and images of consciousness. 13 The exploration of the vast universe and a knowledge of meaning of creation was experienced through the internal and external knowledge of self.

Every land formation and creature, by its very shape and behaviour, implied a hidden meaning; the form of a thing was itself an imprint of the metaphysical or ancestral consciousness that created it, as well as the universal energies that brought about its material manifestation. These aspects of the Dreaming creation myth imply a world in which the metaphysical and physical are held in symbolic integration. The visible and invisible worlds cannot be considered separately.

http://www.bri.net.au/livingbysandra.html




This is a good example of a "Dreaming "explanation Mantra..

I have been remiss..It never occurred to me Freediver would not know what a "Dreaming" was..I only say this because its a part of Australias culture and is quiet common knowledge for the average Aussie.
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Reply #17 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 6:51pm
 

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Aus Nats dream must have a meaning with an important message. Yours to mantra..those we remember vividly are remembered for a reason..the subcioncious, if we can listen to it properly and take heed, will tell us all we need to know..dreams are your subconcious attempting to surface and deliver a message you need to apply to your life, on an everyday level and for future paths.


Hmmm, like never to turn my back on a problem, or be more tenacious.
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Reply #18 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 6:57pm
 
Ausnat wrote on Jun 17th, 2007 at 6:51pm:
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Aus Nats dream must have a meaning with an important message. Yours to mantra..those we remember vividly are remembered for a reason..the subcioncious, if we can listen to it properly and take heed, will tell us all we need to know..dreams are your subconcious attempting to surface and deliver a message you need to apply to your life, on an everyday level and for future paths.


Hmmm, like never to turn my back on a problem, or be more tenacious.


Most likely something very like that. Ill take a look when I get more time. Smiley
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Reply #19 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 7:02pm
 
Thanks. Smiley
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Reply #20 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 7:25pm
 
excellent "ravings" oceans.

please "rave" again whenever you feel inclined to.  Just open a thread and "go".
Whenever you want, about whatever you want.
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Reply #21 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 7:56pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 17th, 2007 at 7:25pm:
excellent "ravings" oceans.

please "rave" again whenever you feel inclined to.  Just open a thread and "go".
Whenever you want, about whatever you want.



Thanks Sprint,

If I get the urge I will..you run a very tidy ship here. So ill keep it clean. Smiley
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Reply #22 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 11:26pm
 
the above post is confusing now on a second read...Sprint? "rave"..

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Reply #23 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 8:31am
 
Posted in the wrong one.
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Reply #24 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 10:19am
 
hi oceans, I meant it is a great thread you posted, edivenced by the interest it gathered .
One of your earlier postings you said it was a "rave".
I meant it in an encouraging manner.

Post whatever you want, well done.
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Reply #25 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 9:40pm
 
ok..

thats fine..will get to ANs dream soon..Tomorrow.
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Reply #26 - Jun 18th, 2007 at 11:59pm
 
Yes im interested to know.
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Reply #27 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:51pm
 
Still heard nothing..........
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