This is an interesting subject Oceans.  I believe in reincarnation - especially animals reincarnating themselves to get back to you in your lifetime.  I also believe that some people come back as animals to annoy you - and have had a kookaburra and an intimidating lorikeet hang around me for years, reminding me very much of certain relatives who have passed on.
When I was young I used to repeatedly dream that I was in a huge tavern in what appeared the medieval period.  The people were filthy, pigs were running around the place and the whole scenario was very threatening.  The detail is still in my memory.  I often think this is where one of my lives could have ended.


We will never have proof that reincarnation exists.  Incidents occur in our lives that are so familiar and we know we haven't dealt with the same situation in this life,  so it's easy to believe it has happened in an earlier life.

Hi oceans, thanks for posting a thread.
One of my guidelines for this forum is to never delete any spiritual comment.  
Any topic that tosses around the "spiritual ball" is a good topic.

Any limiting of a spiritual forum to a "christian" forum is quite unspiritual, ain't it ?

Think the egyptians and buddhists beleive in reincarnation . Every time you come back according to what you had done, at a higher or lower level. Till you reach enlightenment ?? This is pretty much my guesswork.

mantra - the intimidating lorikeet sounds intriguing .  animals have very humanistic characters.
Sometimes I have been somewhere where it feels I have done it before. Sometimes I think it has been premonination. other times I feel very "at home" in places where I have not been before.

people often turn off when "spiritual" matters are raised.  There is a "blindness" , an "avoidance" I believe.
kids are often more spiritual, free.  

I have heard someone say reincarnation is supported in the Bible. I have not read anything that suggests that, from my memory. People are bought back from the dead in there and since then. But that is different to reincarnation. Where they come back as someone/thing  new .

dreams are analysed in the bible. There is not so much de javu as  predictions of things to come.

I have had premoninations, reasonably oftenish.  
And have had senses of people who have passed away.
One came back to say goodbye and that all was well. . He no longer had any pain. (Always had backache).  Was led by an angel on either arm.
That happened while I was working on a kitchen floor.

Thanks oceans and mantra

I think the Hari Krisnas believe in reincarnation.

The aboriginals are obviously renowned for their ability to follow "the dreaming" and apply it to their lives.  It has been proved over and over that this has worked for them in earlier times.

Can you give an example mantra?

The Dreaming, or tjukurpa, as it is known to Central Australian Aboriginals, is eternal and is existence itself, in the past, present and future. It is also the explanation of existence, and it is the law which governs behaviour. The Tjukurpa refers to the time of creation of all things, and it is still unfolding alongside present events and is being recreated and celebrated today.

Concepts of Space and Time are integral to the understanding of the Dreaming. Aboriginal and Western thought share an interdependency of time and space, but our deep yearning and spiritual search for the elusive "present moment" and "eternal life" seems of no consequence to the Aborigine. For the Aborigines, the present moment and eternity have been physicalized as place. One is alive in the moment by being utterly grounded and centred in space.

Aborigines do not perceive space as distance. Space for them is consciousness. All satial relationships in the Dreaming are primarily symbolic. Meaning and information are not transported across distances and time; they are not transported across distances and time; they are an integral part of consciousness expressing itself as spatial order and form. To the Aborigines, the spatial landscape is a perfect symbolic description of the psychic content of humans and of the ancestral forces that created the world. To disturb the earth in any way is to obscure the meaning and history of humanity and reality. Knowledge is shared through resonance in space and time. Meaning, not space and time, connects all things.

The Dreaming stories contain, in addition to moral, spiritual and psychic understanding, all kinds of practical information. A story may direct a hunting band to places where the lilies bloom, where turtle eggs hatch, or where wild yams ripen. The clan follows the stories from place to place without a calendar. The Aborigines move through space, and we move through time.

Aboriginal stories, be they about life or the Dreaming, focus on place descriptions and spatial directions rather than designations such as when, before or after.

Landscape Within as Without

In the Dreaming there is no external space separate from the internal. There are no objects or events - be they stars, spaceships, or molecules - separate from the feelings, desires, projections, activities and images of consciousness. 13 The exploration of the vast universe and a knowledge of meaning of creation was experienced through the internal and external knowledge of self.

Every land formation and creature, by its very shape and behaviour, implied a hidden meaning; the form of a thing was itself an imprint of the metaphysical or ancestral consciousness that created it, as well as the universal energies that brought about its material manifestation. These aspects of the Dreaming creation myth imply a world in which the metaphysical and physical are held in symbolic integration. The visible and invisible worlds cannot be considered separately.

http://www.bri.net.au/livingbysandra.html