It seems to me that he understands you loud and clear.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 26^th, 2007 at 11:34am:



If you agree with this tired view of our good friend, Brian Ross, despite the fact that:

• The support for Hilaly and assorted other extremist Muslim leaders throughout Australia with similar views
• The terror plots within Australia
• The revenge attacks after the Cronulla protests
• The rise in crime in Bankstown, Lakemba and other Muslims occupied areas across Australia
• The isolation of Islamic communites from the greater Australian community
• The formation of extremist Islamic political parties within Australia
• Similar patterns emerging throughout the rest of the world

...and despite the fact that the Muslims make up about 1-2% of the total Australia population, then please, follow this link, it's right up your alley...

http://piv.pivpiv.dk/

THREE Singaporean Muslim women, all married to the same man, have been sentenced to jail for persuading some of his under-age daughters to have sex with him.

The man, who has 10 wives and 64 children, was sentenced to 32 years in prison and 24 strokes of the cane in April 2006 after he was found guilty of raping five of his under-age daughters.

The man, citing the Koran, had told his wives and daughters that he had complete ownership over his children, including the right to have sex with his daughters, the papers showed.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,21790684-5003402,00.html



One can see where his is coming from. It is in the koran I guess (not read that part myself) but that is the intention of it. 
eg it says "a woman is worth 1/2 a man" and "most of the people in hell will be women", mohammads said to one of his henchmen, his "killing of some women means no more than two goats butting heads."
mohammad himself married a 6 year old girl, then slept with her when she was 9 .
Of course, muslims justify this, saying women then were "different "  then!!!!!

from memory, Lot does not do that.  I could be wrong


The other rough quotes I have given support his understanding.
One wonders how else it could be interpereted ?

Ah, you are entirely correct Gavin. i was thinking of Job for some reason !
Yes, Lot does indeed committ incest, after sodom and gemorrah fall.  Well, moreso his daughters do it to him while he has lost his mind.
The justness of that story is good. Of course it is not an action God approves of. Lot has a short life after that.  The offspring are destined for bad things.
God gave me a word of understanding about that one.
Did you see the indepth discussion of that in cracker ?

That action is a crime in the old testament. But that antiwoman attitude is in the koran. Hence that mans actions in singapore are commensurate with the koran. As I have given in other quotes.

have a good weekend gavin

Here is a mass of quotes for you Gavin.
I can find more, have some at home


"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)

"If you wish to replace a wife with another, do not take from her the dowry you have given her..." (Surah 4:20)

"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially." (Surah 4:126-)

"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)

"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)

"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)

"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)

"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)

"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)

"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)

"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)

"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)

""Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)

"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)

"As for the faithful who do good works and believe what is revealed to Muhammad...He will forgive them their sins..." (Surah 47:1)

"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)

"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

These are from an exmuslim woman
Muslim women are not allowed equal right to their inheritance (Quran 4:11-12) because they are only worth half of a man's share. In most Islamic countries, women are not allowed to vote and are certainly not allowed to be elected to public office.

Islamic justification for raping woman prisoners can be found because Muhammad gave permission for Muslim warriors to rape enemy prisoners "except those (captives and slaves) whom your hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you.." Surah 4:24. The key words for the Islamic legal code are "whom your hands possess" and "thus Allah has ordained for you."

Muslim Quranic (bible) verse 4:34 instructs Muslim men to "admonish" and "beat" their wives if they become "rebellious" and that "men are the managers of the affairs of women because Allah has preferred men over women and women were expended of their Rights."
In an Islamic court of law, it takes the testimony of two women to override the testimony of one man. Justification for this legal tradition is found in Quran 2:282.

Quranic verse 24:31 warns Muslim women not to make eye contact or allow any part of their skin or jewelry to be seen by strangers, "and tell the believing women to lower their gaze and protect themselves from illegal sexual acts, and not show off their adornment [to all men] and boys]." As a result of this verse, if an adult girl (9 years and older) is raped by an adult man, she will be considered at fault because she was careless and provoked the attack. Her parents will be expected to severely punish or kill her for dishonoring her family.


What God told me about the moral of the stpory of Lot was "You will be judged by your actions."

Interesting, but none of those quotes justify a man to sleep with his own daughters.

So i'm guessing u started this typical muslim-bashing thread, to show us how bad Islam since it allows a guy to sleep with his own daughters. Yet, u can't provide a quote to show that.