Bowen wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 2:52pm:


No one is forcing you to not live as a chinaman, but why do you think you have the right to do it on someone else's soil? Likewise no one is forcing you to live in Australia. If you want to live with the Chinese, I know a country with over a billion of them you will feel at home in. That's about 15,000 km north from here.

Bowen wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 3:09pm:


Do they mate?  Why don't you try this schtick in say...Angola and see how well it's received there?

Yes, human rights is not in China. For everybody. Even in China western culture is respected.

Do you want to say that a people from an autarchy has no human rights?

Do you want to rob my human rights?

I already told you why there is separated society. Because the guys like you do not want to understand others.

Do you understand me? What's the people I am? You don't care.

I come to here to contribute to Australia with you. But only because I have different culture, you ask me many times to go back to China.

I come here with technologies, skills and my passion to build a better world. But you only focus on the culture difference between us.

That's why there is separated society. I can not say all the reason is yours. However, the main reason is yours.


Quantum wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 3:27pm:

Bowen wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 3:35pm:


You expect Australians to try to understand you, but you clearly have not tried to understand us. Most Australians don't care where you're from, but only how you act and live when you get here.

Australia is not exactly a third world dump. We don't need anyone coming here to help us make it a better place. Cars, trains, buildings, bridges. Sewage treatment, nuclear reactors, electricity. All here before you arrived.

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No, the only reason is you. You came here and didn't want to integrate. You came to another country and wanted to live in a mini version of your own. You then wanted to blame the locals for not changing to learn your language and understanding your culture. If you didn't come with that attitude there would be no separation to begin with.

I'm friends we a lot of Asians who don't like your type. They (or their parents) came to Australia to make a better life for themselves. They were glad to get out of their home country. They learnt English and Australian culture and today they are as dinky die as any other Aussie. That shows that the problem is not about race but culture.

Bowen wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 4:07pm:


How can you blame me for not dropping everything and learning your language in my home country?

Again, you act like the people born here owe you something. You took it upon yourself to come here. All the effort needed to be a part of this county is therefore your responsibility. Why do you think that I should try to understand you? I didn't ask you to come.

Look, we do not owe each others.

If you want to be my friend, then try to understand me like I did to you.

If you do not want, so be it.

You can keep blaming or try to understand me. It's your choice.

At least what I did is more than yours.

Quantum wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 4:16pm:

Wait, I never said you should change your culture to fit me. I do not need you to change.

Under the law, we have enough space to keep our own cultures.

You may be my friend or ignore me. Just do not intervene me. That's all.



Quantum wrote on Nov 1^st, 2012 at 4:35pm:

Bo-wen (博  文 - rich culture??),

1. You came to Australia to pursue your own interests, as an individual, not as an ambassador for your culture. As an individual. Personal merit (if you came as a skilled migrant). Not cultural merit. 2. Immigration didn't ask you about your culture because it doesn't matter. Nobody asked you to bring your culture - or to leave it completely behind you.
3. Your bringing your culture here for us to respect it or even like it was never part of the deal. The only deal was that you have a certain level of English and that you acknowledge the laws and customs of this country and that you have a level of individual merit that this country needs and accepts. There was nothing about us needing to learn to like your culture or learn your language. If your cultural practices contribute to life here, people ill like your contribution. Otherwise it's either keep it to yourself  if it's not illegal or stop it if it is. BTW, what are the great Chinese cultural practices that Australia has been missing out on?
4. Australia being an immigrant country doesn't mean that people here have to tolerate or even respect every other cultural practice, and they rightly don't.
5. Apart from Chinese and Australians, do you know any other ethnicities here? Or do you live in a Chinese ghetto?  There are people from over 200 different nationalities in this country. You'd better start learning some community languages yourself. Restricting yourself to English is, by your own reckoning, a 'racialist' attitude.