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Ausholes query on "When do we start to exist".
Apr 24^th, 2007 at 12:52pm

Aushole asked

"How can humanity be proven to exist? You will say because it is real in the physical world. But when does each human start to exist? Is it at the time you were conceived? The time you were born? The time that you became aware of your existence?

These are important concepts, because prior to your being in the physical world, you did not exist. And you will not exist in 100 years time. So when you are not existing, where are you?

I see this is the reason that spirituality and God(s) become an important part of many people's lives, to neatly explain human existence. "

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"We start at conception. There can be no other beginning ."

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Reply #1 - Apr 27^th, 2007 at 10:11am

We could be said to begin well before conception.

A womans eggs are there when she is born.
At least one "part" of us is there well before our mother can even fall pregnant.
Women do not generate eggs as they live, they have all they will ever have at thier own birth.
Unlike us men who are walking pollen factories

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Many of our characteristics come from our ancestors.
We start a very long time before our conception, well before we are a sparkle in our dads eyes.

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Reply #2 - Apr 27^th, 2007 at 1:52pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 27^th, 2007 at 10:11am:

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Many of our characteristics come from our ancestors.
We start a very long time before our conception, well before we are a sparkle in our dads eyes.

what a thought.

I began at conception..we are only a whole when DNA from father and mother come together to FORM a whole.That whole becomes us.

This doesnt make a lot of sense sprint.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53210 At my desk.	Re: Ausholes query on "When do we start to exist". Reply #3 - Apr 27^th, 2007 at 2:16pm It is an interesting perspective. Sprint are you familiar with the idea that we are just 'machines' designed by self replicating chemicals to assist with replication?
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41836 Gender:	Re: Ausholes query on "When do we start to exist". Reply #4 - Apr 28^th, 2007 at 5:17pm oceans - we are around before conception. Within our ancestors. That is where we come from. A parents habits (smoking) has an effect on the unconcieved child. freediver - no, have not heard that. what is it ?
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oceans_blue Ex Member	Re: Ausholes query on "When do we start to exist". Reply #5 - Apr 28^th, 2007 at 9:32pm Freediver, that is a very interesting concept. Starts to spill over into the realms of science fiction-
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53210 At my desk.	Re: Ausholes query on "When do we start to exist". Reply #6 - Apr 29^th, 2007 at 7:52pm It is not science fiction. It's just a different perspective based on the theory of natural selection. Rather than saying that we pass on our DNA, you say that our DNA uses us to pass itself on.
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Reply #7 - Apr 29^th, 2007 at 9:20pm

That is an interesting perspective freediver.

I heard a saying about organ donation, similar in perspective to yours.

"Donating an organ is not just someones organ being used to give life to another whole entire person.
It is also the that other persons whole entire being all working to give life to that persons single organ."

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53210 At my desk.	Re: Ausholes query on "When do we start to exist". Reply #8 - Apr 29^th, 2007 at 9:31pm Correct, except that life is usually defined to include the potential for indefinite reproduction.
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