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Question: Should Australia become a republic?



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Re: Should Australia become a republic?
Reply #555 - Aug 3rd, 2017 at 11:51pm
 
ALP or NLP...
...the 'position' of the Prime Minister will always SERVE the United States of America.
Just like the Governor-General serves the United Kingdom.

And let's face it. These days, the UK serves the USA anyway.  Wink



So what then, is it of Australian 'Politics'...
...that serves Australia?

Is it 'the People'?
What 'people'?
Where are these ...People?
A paltry population of Monarchists and Pro-Americans
who want a 'President' as a Head of State. Roll Eyes

Yes - tell me.
Where are these 'People' who will take ...the Power in the name of a Re-PUBLIC?
Huh


Go on Australia.
Step out of that door from under the roof of the UK
and discover that the door of the USA will close upon you as well.
Where will you be then?
What 'Politics' will you have to show for yourselves?

Do you honestly think that making a Republic is just a matter of changing words on pieces of ...paper?

The CONSEQUENCES of a Republic is something you should all consider carefully. Very carefully.

So before you become Anti-Monarchist and seek a Republic, because you are Pro-American for a President as a Head of State.
Like a rebellious teenage who storms out of home from his Parent's rules, only to seek refuge at his Uncle's - as if that is the answer.

Consider this.
Maybe, just maybe - the future of Australia IS NOT...
...Politics.

If you become a Republic.
YOU WILL ALL LOSE EVERYTHING!

...but you will all at least gain your 'Freedom' finally.

Political 'poverty' and Freedom?
Or a nice cushy nation with benefits ...but in chains still?

You renounce the Monarchy (UK) and the American representative ...the Unions, will take the money ...like Thieves.

My personal advice is this.

The UK may have treated you 'Convicts' harshly in 'the Past'.
But that was then.
This is now.
And that 'chain' that shackles you to the UK, may 'now' be the only saving grace you have.


...when the (Yankee) Unionism comes to 'take the money' for their 'President as a Head of - the States'.


Best of luck...
...in the Lucky Country.



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Re: Should Australia become a republic?
Reply #556 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 2:28am
 
As usual, you miss the entire point:-

The REAL people want a republic that will have a popularly elected President with a clear division of powers, and which will stand proud and free from all the influences you suggest will dominate the show.

I am more than happy to deal with the US as an equal partner in interests in our region..... as for the Brits, they are welcome and I'm happy to have the Queen as a sort of visiting figurehead... you can design a republic any way you want... and there is nothing to say you can't retain the Queen as a figurehead.... we just don't need a G-G.
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Re: Should Australia become a republic?
Reply #557 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 2:36am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2015 at 10:02am:
freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2015 at 10:02am:
In a democracy 'the majority' is the ultimate arbiter. This is not the same as saying the PM is not the real authority. You have confused an explanation for how he obtains that authority with a rejection of that authority.



You were wrong.

Be a man, and move on.




The PM has authority in the party which elected him/her - the PM does NOT possess, and never can possess, dictatorial or arbitrary and unconstrained power over the people.

Personally I fail to see why a lackey of a party should be paid handsomely to be the head of that party in the parliament - same as I fail to see why we need handsomely paid 'ministers' when there is an established public service that does the job for them... if they will listen...

In this nation, however, there is little conceptualisation of the reality of government or official status - and we continue to labour under the delusion that 'city hall' has rights, when all it has is power given by US.

When that power is abused to exercise control rather than service to the people - it is despotism.

"Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak, and that it is doing God's service when it is violating all His laws."

- John Adams.
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Re: Should Australia become a republic?
Reply #558 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 4:56pm
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 2:28am:
As usual, you miss the entire point:-

The REAL people want a republic that will have a popularly elected President with a clear division of powers, and which will stand proud and free from all the influences you suggest will dominate the show.

I am more than happy to deal with the US as an equal partner in interests in our region..... as for the Brits, they are welcome and I'm happy to have the Queen as a sort of visiting figurehead... you can design a republic any way you want... and there is nothing to say you can't retain the Queen as a figurehead.... we just don't need a G-G.


Oh, I don't think so Grappler.
I think I have a very good understanding on the 'Big Picture' both for Australia and the World.
I and a former South African Anti-Apartheid dissident predicted Kevin Rudd to be PM back in 2003.
Amongst other things, there is much that can be 'predicted'.
The future of Australia isn't 'just' up to Australians only.
Australia is also what the World needs it to be.
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Re: Should Australia become a republic?
Reply #559 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 5:55pm
 
Jasin wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 4:56pm:
The future of Australia isn't 'just' up to Australians only.
Australia is also what the World needs it to be.




Australia: "Yeah, Nah".  Cool Cool
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Re: Should Australia become a republic?
Reply #560 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 5:58pm
 
and end up like America- no thank you!!!
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