you never really know how sick (and broken) you were until you are well again.....

only a doctor who knows history, economics, politics and the direction a country (spiritual) would benefit from could have any hope of diagnosing a potential problem with Oz, or for that matter any other country in the world.

Therefore I would suggest to you that only a person who Has read a lot Could possibley be a possible canditate for remitting such a diagnosis........  Thats not to suggest your Emotions on this subject aren't worth considering, because in the end it is those emotions that will bulwark any movement for social change..... But I wouldn't trust a persons feeling with the charge of generating a report indicating whether or not a country should, or shouldn't be a republic.

The way I see it the republic of USA has a flaw like most democratic governments - they are always open to abuse by orchestrated groups of like-minded people that have at their heart self-interested agendas invariably at loggerheads with  vast sections of the community.

Their are numerous examples of this lately in Oz. Coal seam gas, huge open pit mining, vast clear felling of native vegetation, gun laws, immigration, military deployments, education, paid maternity leave, same-sex marriage etc irregardless of what side of politics you're from, greater engagement and consensus within society on party platform policy

It is now - technically and politically - possible, perhaps even warranted to allow a greater engagement of the people in how they feel on policy matters. In an open, structured and accountable fashion. But first getting rid of dead wood from the past is neccessary. The easiset way is to enshrine a Bill of Rights into the preamble. Make Everyone Equal. Republic or not, PEP or not. In fact if the BoR was worded correctly there could be no legal impediment stopping ANY indivdual to stand for office of Prez, in fact it would be Illegal to prevent any citizen. If we had a Bill of Rights.

But then where would we be - I'd have to accept all of youse as my equals. Even if their wasn't a drop of blue blood in youse......


I would be happy to be part of the monarchy if we have a massive lottery for everyone in the commonwealth which decides who will be the next king/queen.

Include a preexisting BoR, make the term for the Queen/King 4 years, refer to tem as Prez and I'll second the motion.   

Umm for that commentator - any Minister OF Police is not a Minister FOR police exclusively, and should NOT be an ex-cop, since his her duties are oversight and control of police on behalf of the people - not being their advocate.   they already have more than enough of those!  You, and many others, need to get your mind around one simple fact - police, courts, and even government are NOT the power in this land - they are simply one interest group in a sea of We, The People and already have massive resources and inside running - and as such have zero need for extra representation.

On top of that - they are - each and every one of them - themselves bound by the Rule of Law - which requires that their every action be within the law and that they be treated equally with everyone else - and never above it or outside of it.

You need to get away from the old convict days, my son - and away from the false idea that all those people in those positions are somehow your social betters and have more rights and entitlements than you or anyone else.

You guys don't get it do yas.

America = Art (breeds) / Politics (empowers)
Australia = Politics (breeds) / Art (empowers)

...hence why Politics is going broke here, but providing the better 'family' structure.

Occams wrote on Jun 27^th, 2012 at 2:49pm:



My you are a deep thinker aren't you? 

She wasn't the Queen of anywhere during WWII and she cannot now or before, direct our military to or away from any theatre of operation.


Try another subject this one's is way beyond your capability.

miosread the quote and rescind my comment. Apologies

I agree that Australia should become a republic.

It's 21st century. Why we still bow to the throne?

Everybody are equal as citizens. No one is superiority.

Australian Atheist Party wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 2:16pm:


you dont want a govt?  You only want a local council but kept on a tight leash. kept by whom or what? and who is going to pay for your roads, hospitals, schools.

dumb as a bag of hammers

Dnarever wrote on Nov 25^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:


that soon? I was thinking 2070.