I still get a laugh out of the interview when John Howard decided he'd try and prove he was the 'man of steel' by telling us and the world that (in the event of an Obama election win)

"If I were running al Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008, and pray, as many times as possible, for a victory not only for Obama, but also for the Democrats"

To which Obama replied

"We have close to 140,000 troops on the ground now and my understanding is that Mr. Howard has deployed 1,400. So, if he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest he call up another 20,000 Australians and send them up to Iraq."

No more was heard from the man of..stee errr.. putty... He fell back into line, like the good representative of the vassal state we are.

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 6^th, 2011 at 9:04pm:


What on  earth are you raving on about?

Grey wrote on Aug 6^th, 2011 at 7:30pm:


the arguement For a BOR is to prevent what you are advocating - that in the end you will go cap in hand top the ruling goverment of the day asking for "more please".

On the other hand, human rights; enshrined in a legally binding constitutional document that dictates the framework for ALL other laws to live upto ensures governmnents may come and go - but our rights could never be taken away from us unless we ALL agreed to it through a legally held ballot.

The established acquiescence this government continues to operate under - gained through the duopoly of established environmental circumstances ie the colonies initially operated under royal decree and, the duplicitous lies that are peddled by those who pronounce there is nothing wrong with the system. Both delusions are strategically maintained by the cultural elite and is duly leveraged by the lack of certainty in most Aussies of what their national and human birth-right really is.

If all Australians truly understood that the concept of "a fair go" can be explicitly defined by a set of rules that ensure goverments can not legislate away those birth-rights, then I believe there would be a profound shift toward a declaration of independence and the institution of a republic protected by a people who have been granted unassialable rights with the guaranteed protection of those rights from all enemies - within or out - who try to interfere with those rights and freedoms.

And inside of all I have said is not one reference to a gun or army or violence.... so please don't anyone come the raw prawn china.

And that is essentially the ONLY thing a Bill of Rights achieves. Which is the inverse and diametrical opposite of what is promised by our current system. While many use the throw away line - nothing wrong so blah blah blah.......... -  I see that presently I am expected to defend this land and it's rulers for a guarantee of nothing other than a chance to mosey through life and if any of my assumed rights are impinged upon by local, state or federal governments then there is SFA that I can do to change the laws of the land except through pursuing the matter throught the courts.

What do I mean by that? Simply this - as there is no explicit rights outlined in our constitution except for those entitlements granted non-human legal entities called by most of us humans "corporations", to launch a civil court case and have a determination preventing laws that breach your implicitly alluded to rights in our "constitution", you would first need to have a court explicitly first hand down a finding that you indeed have those rights you want to refer to in your case against a malicious local state or federal goverment.

At present your only right in this this society is to eat crap at the behest of others. And don't you complain to loudly about it either because if you do - you could be dragged of to a tiny little room and detained without legal representation for some days. And if you felt the need to tell someone your detention without the federal government approval - you could find your self detained for up to 25 years for contempt of court...... oh and by the way if you ever find yourself in this position because of some sort of error (like the ones that happen when you pinged for a speeding ticket or redlight camera - and you know you weren't guity) then make sure you let all the family members that know you're being detained they should tell your lawyer/boss/newspaper editor/politcal party/union, because they will end up in jail as well.

No I'm not talking about Sudan or Somalia or even Pakistan, I'm refering to our own native government. Still feel like sumpin aint broke???

A fair go can never be truly offered or indeed sought under a system that is framed by racism and and antiquated class system.

Don't be afraid of the freedom- embrace your destiny without the shackles of a superstitious system that depends on us in believing that some how a few dozen families  - THROUGH BIRTHRIGHT - are inexplicably better than all other humans in the world.

What sort of childish simpleton swollows this retched camel dung proposition?
I'll tell you who - those who have extracted privilige from this form of coercive, barbarous, blood-thirsty, divisive methodology born through the purist form racist ideology this side of the birth of JC. The irony is most if not all of the zealots who advocate this sort of tryanny are supposed "believers" of various different faiths that only inspire a sense of unease in each other.

To simply defer to another set of country's codes framed over the last two millenia by a ruling class riddled with indelibly engraved ruling class notions is to ask for trouble.

Others imply if there's nothing wrong then don't fix it... to blithely suggest through inference there is nothing wrong with our present system is to ignore the surroundings in which we live.....


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enviro....do you have sex with one of those blow up dolls you bought off the net?

Also Labour is spelled Labor.

And Partys are spelled Parties.

Did you just crawl out of the swamp?

Australia WILL become a Republic.
Especially not long after the current Queen passes on.
The States will be disengaged to provide for Provincials.
The offices of Govenor-General and Prime Minister will be disolved to be replaced by a Chairperson who presides over all the Provincials who now have greater power than the current Federal level.

Things will be vastly different.
For one thing - the slate will be cleaned afresh and 'everyone' will be treated 'equally'!
No special preferences for British or Aboriginals.

50% is Australia wants to become a Republic.
50% is the World wants Australia to beome a Republic.

...and it ain't like the Republics you have everywhere else.

Australia didn't CHANGE for 40,000 years and look what happened to their 'perfect' world.

We must always keep changing ...with the world that keeps turning.

"If it ain't broke don't fix it?"
Its a common saying now to the Republic issue.
"Hey mate, I'm broke - do you have some change for me."
...its all about compassion for your battling mates and I'm not talking about the drunk ones, etc.

Give it a bit more time and a few thousand more boats and we'll be able to decide whether we want to become the Isamlic Republic of Australia.

Experts say few Australians understand that the boat people represent just a small fraction of our refugee intake - and these asylum-seekers are unfairly vilified by "expedient" politicians.

Hey! Abbott, Jones and Hadley only have one line, don't take it away from them.

They represent a tiny minority. What did someone say? At the current rate, it would take ten years to fill up the MCG.