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Re: white supremacists
Reply #150 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 12:26am
 
How on earth did talk about 'white supremacists' come to the subject of 'psychology?'  Huh
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Reply #151 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 12:41am
 
Why all this worry about "White Supremacists". There are only a hand full of them, and most are just loonies. There is no race that is superior on this Earth, simply because they are born to a certain creed...like the Jews being the Chosen People by God to smack hell out of Arabs until their messiah arrives...but honestly, wouldn't and shouldn't people be more alarmed by Islamic Supremacisy? Afterall, Indonesia - the largest Muslim population of Earth is just north of us.

Are we not worried about Communism any more, as if that is gone away into the distant on no-threat here? Have we been so brainwashed that we ignore African Supremacisy butchering each other into starvation? These people are in their hundreds of millions - they'd be what 100,000 White Supremacists in the world at best?

Give me a break. Why is it always is it the "White man" who is the racist?
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Reply #152 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 9:12am
 
but honestly, wouldn't and shouldn't people be more alarmed by Islamic Supremacisy?

We will deal with each as it arises. Think globally, act locally.

Are we not worried about Communism any more, as if that is gone away into the distant on no-threat here?

Correct.
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Reply #153 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 4:35pm
 
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Don't count your chickens, freediver.
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Reply #154 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 6:40pm
 
zoso wrote on Apr 9th, 2007 at 2:31pm:
AUShole wrote on Apr 7th, 2007 at 10:02pm:
Either your friends are lying, or you are being loose with your argument. Drugs prescribed for depression cannot get you high. If you are not depressed, they won't work!

Ever taken zoloft and smoked a little weed? Yes I was being loose with my argument, but the point stands I did have friends that would have anti depressants prescribed then take a ton of them with alcohol and other things. Its amazing what cocktails kids can dream up.

I had a few friends that used to lie to get ritalin prescribed to them, then crush it up and inject it. And yes I had friends who would abuse their anti depressants, enough of anything will do something... I used to know a certain person who would sell their children's ADD drugs too.



Psychology and pharmas are off topic... but now the rabbit is out...

The best you can hope for by mixing anti depressants and alcohol is psychosis. From the alcohol.

Almost all anti depressants are seretonin reuptake inhibitors. They will not work straight away. So someone smoking gunja with irregular use of zoloft would only exhibit a high from THC. Maybe some elements of placebo, too.

Ritalin and other ADD drugs are predominantly amphetamine based. These create an immediate high. But these are almost impossible for an adult to get on prescription.

Another option would be Valium, by saying you were having anxiety problems. Most doctors would not prescribe unless they are familiar with your history (i.e. they know you).

The easiest option... good old codeine based painkillers.
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Reply #155 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 6:44pm
 
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 10th, 2007 at 4:35pm:
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Are we not worried about Communism any more, as if that is gone away into the distant on no-threat here?

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Don't count your chickens, freediver.


Well, at least not the ones producing eggs. The commies will make you share the fruits of chicken labour.  Wink
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Reply #156 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 7:26pm
 
Baron von Hund wrote on Apr 10th, 2007 at 12:41am:
Give me a break. Why is it always is it the "White man" who is the racist?


Because white man writes the laws that make white man racist.
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Reply #157 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 7:34pm
 
AUShole wrote on Apr 10th, 2007 at 6:40pm:
Psychology and pharmas are off topic... but now the rabbit is out...

Grin

Ok yes waaay off topic... sounds like you know what you're on about Smiley
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Reply #158 - Apr 10th, 2007 at 8:20pm
 
zoso wrote on Apr 10th, 2007 at 7:34pm:
Ok yes waaay off topic... sounds like you know what you're on about Smiley


I must confess, not a whole lot. But my partner does... she is a doctor  Wink

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Indians still in Sydney, tour in doubt
Reply #159 - Jan 7th, 2008 at 4:14pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/indians-still-in-sydney-tour-in-doubt/20080107-1kkd.html

The Indian cricket team has been instructed to remain in Sydney tonight as speculation mounts that the tour of Australia may be in jeopardy.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) instructed the team to remain at their hotel in Sydney rather than travel to Canberra for a match against an ACT side as scheduled.

"We have been instructed by BCCI to stay in Sydney until we get further instructions," team spokesman Dr M V Sridhar told journalists.

The development followed a morning of confusion as the Indian players sat on their team bus outside the hotel for two hours before returning to their rooms.

The Indians are incensed at the three-match ban handed down in the early hours of today to spin bowler Harbhajan Singh after he was found guilty of racially abusing Australia's Andrew Symonds during the explosive second Test in Sydney.

The BCCI is understood to have called an emergency meeting in Delhi and was waiting late today for delegates to fly in from other parts of India.

Relations between the teams reached crisis point last night when Indian captain Anil Kumble accused the Australians of not playing in the spirit of the game.

"Only one team was playing in the spirit of the game," Kumble said, echoing the famous remark made by Australian captain Bill Woodfull during the Bodyline series 75 years ago.

Australian captain Ricky Ponting said he believed the match had been played in an excellent spirit and Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland suggested today that Ponting and Kumble should get together to help mend relations.

Cricket Australia has heard no official word on an Indian complaint that Australian spinner Brad Hogg had allegedly abused one of the Indian players on the field.

The Indian team also expressed its lack of confidence in umpires Mark Benson and Steve Bucknor and requested that Bucknor be removed from the third Test in Perth due to start next week.

The Indians were on the wrong end of at least five demonstrably poor umpiring decisions during the Sydney Test.

The most blatant of them was an appeal for caught behind against Symonds when he was on 30 in the first innings.

Symonds, who freely admitted he had hit the ball and should have been out, went on to make a match turning 162 not out and was later named man-of-the match.



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Can there have been a more hollow win in Australian sport? From day one to day five, the second Test match at the SCG was rotten to the core, tainted by appalling umpiring, bad sportsmanship, sledging and, finally, a suspension for racism.

The chain of events that led to Australia’s ‘’triumph’’ over India, starting with the howlers afforded Australian captain Ricky Ponting and Andrew Symonds on the first day, was so embarrassing, it was cringe-making.

Indeed, the Australian victory was so fortunate that it, and the team’s much-trumpeted 16-match winning streak, should forever carry a giant asterisk alongside it in the record books: (*achieved with the help of incompetent umpires and the Australian players’ own double-standards.)

Our reputation for sportsmanship and fair play has taken a battering in the process. Around the world, we are seen as overbearing bullies who happily dish it out on the field but squeal when other teams, such as India, find the gumption to give it back.



Race relations challenge country: PM

http://news.smh.com.au/race-relations-challenge-country-pm/20080126-1obr.html

Race relations between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians is one of the nation's great challenges, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said in an Australia Day message, as the word "Sorry" was written in the sky above Bondi Beach.

Mr Rudd, elected last November, has promised to say sorry to Aborigines for past injustices, reversing an 11-year policy under the previous conservative government that damaged race relations.



MLC quashes rumours of Camden race riots

http://news.smh.com.au/mlc-quashes-rumours-of-camden-race-riots/20080125-1o74.html

A Camden-based Liberal Party member says the media is to blame for beating up news of an Australia Day race riot in Sydney's southwest.

Earlier this month The Daily Telegraph online reported the Australia First Party was planning to distribute anti-Islamic material in Camden on Australia Day.

A controversial development proposal to build a 1,200-student Islamic school in Camden has drawn the ire of many locals and sparked rumours that supporters and opponents of the school will take to the streets on Saturday.
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Canadian court Internet hate crime conviction
Reply #160 - Feb 6th, 2008 at 6:39pm
 
What does everyone think of this? Is it crossing the line into censorship? Is it silly to try to restrict what people post online, given the ease with which they can do it anonymously? Could the same thing happen in Australia or to OzPolitic members? Could they come after the site rather than the poster?

Canadian court hands rare Internet hate crime conviction

http://news.smh.com.au/canadian-court-hands-rare-internet-hate-crime-conviction/20080206-1qj8.html

A Canadian court handed down a rare conviction to a white supremacist for posting hate material on the Internet, police here said Tuesday.

A judge ruled that Keith Francis William (Bill) Noble, 31, did "willfully promote hatred against identifiable groups, namely Jews, Blacks, homosexual or gay persons, non-whites and persons of mixed race or ethnic origin," said a police statement.

Noble was sentenced to four months in jail, plus restrictions on his use of computers for three years, said the police statement. He was charged after police raided his former home in the rural community of Fort St. John.

Monday's conviction by the British Columbia Supreme Court in western Canada, following a two-week trial last fall, is unusual, Sergeant Sean McGowan told AFP. "The conviction rate for Internet-related crimes is very low."

"This is the second conviction of an individual for hate propaganda in British Columbia, and there have been only four or five cases in all of Canada where an individual has been prosecuted and convicted for hate over the Internet," said McGowan.

McGowan said police were tipped off about Noble's posting by the Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center For Holocaust Studies, an international human rights organisation.

Nobel "posted quite a bit on a lot of white supremacist websites," said McGwan. "The content of the website and the content of what he posted were offensive enough to meet a high standard."

Noble "was known to the police, the authorities, and to our organisation," said David Eisenstadt, a spokesman for the Wiesenthal organisation.

"We're pleased this (conviction) has happened, not because we condone censorship but because there's a lot of abuse on the Internet," Eisenstadt told AFP. "There are no boundaries on the Internet."
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Reply #161 - Feb 16th, 2008 at 11:02pm
 
Baron von Hund wrote on Apr 10th, 2007 at 12:41am:
Afterall, Indonesia - the largest Muslim population of Earth is just north of us.
Indonesia is fairly moderate though. The terrorist attacks, the hate-speech, the violence against religious minorities - all that's pretty rare. It's a huge country with a lot of diversity in ideas. I don't think it'll turn to extremism anytime soon, thank God for that.

I don't get people who are focused on race. Religion and culture, they sometimes make a fair point. I wouldn't want Australia to be an Islamic state. But when you start discriminating on the basis of race, then what if you've got a PI or an Asian or an Arab who grew up here, spoke the language perfectly, lived his life like any other white Australian...why hate him?

I may not like Islam, but I have no hate for the person's racial background or the way he looks. I honestly don't quite get how white supremacists live in Australia. I guess most of their life is filled with hate. Get on the bus, look a Chinese. Stay angry for the rest of the morning. Go out for lunch, ugh an Arab in the restaurant. Dark thoughts until evening. Greek driver cut into your lane, cue the swearing. Get home and turn on the tv, there's ABC focusing on Africans etc. What a shite way to live a life.
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How Do You Prove You’re a Jew?
Reply #162 - Mar 6th, 2008 at 4:03pm
 
How Do You Prove You’re a Jew?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/02/magazine/02jewishness-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&source=cmailer

One day last fall, a young Israeli woman named Sharon went with her fiancé to the Tel Aviv Rabbinate to register to marry. They are not religious, but there is no civil marriage in Israel. The rabbinate, a government bureaucracy, has a monopoly on tying the knot between Jews. The last thing Sharon expected to be told that morning was that she would have to prove — before a rabbinic court, no less — that she was Jewish. It made as much sense as someone doubting she was Sharon, telling her that the name written in her blue government-issue ID card was irrelevant, asking her to prove that she was she.

In recent years, the state’s Chief Rabbinate and its branches in each Israeli city have adopted an institutional attitude of skepticism toward the Jewish identity of those who enter its doors. And the type of proof that the rabbinate prefers is peculiarly unsuited to Jewish life in the United States. The Israeli government seeks the political and financial support of American Jewry. It welcomes American Jewish immigrants. Yet the rabbinate, one arm of the state, increasingly treats American Jews as doubtful cases: not Jewish until proved so.

More than any other issue, the question of Who is a Jew? has repeatedly roiled relations between Israel and American Jewry. Psychologically, it is an argument over who belongs to the family. In the past, the casus belli was conversion: Would the Law of Return, which grants automatic citizenship to any Jew coming to Israel, apply to those converted to Judaism by non-Orthodox rabbis? Now, as Sharon’s experience indicates, the status of Jews by birth is in question. Equally important, the dividing line is no longer between Orthodox and non-Orthodox. The rabbinate’s handling of the issue has placed it on one side of an ideological fissure within Orthodox Judaism itself, between those concerned with making sure no stranger enters the gates and those who fear leaving sisters and brothers outside.



Replace Aboriginal families: candidate

http://news.smh.com.au/replace-aboriginal-families-candidate/20080312-1yxk.html

A mayoral candidate in Saturday's Queensland local government elections wants to replace 25 indigenous families from a south-west Queensland town with the same number of Vietnamese families.

A brochure written and distributed in Cunnamulla by 66-year-old Paroo Shire mayoral candidate Kevin Wise pledges to ask the federal government to pay $50,000 to each of the 25 local indigenous families to move out of the shire.

Mr Wise says he would invite 25 poor non-English-speaking Vietnamese families to take their place on a five-year contract.

"I guarantee that within that five years, these families will have advanced this shire's wealth and future prosperity out of all proportion to that achieved to date with the integration on totally racial grounds of this 'dead in the water', last one leaving `turn the lights out' community," the brochure says.

Born and raised in Cunnamulla, Mr Wise says he had served in the Australian Army during the Vietnam War and believes hard-working Vietnamese families will help rejuvenate the town's economy.
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