Do you condone cruelty to dogs IQSRLOW?

As FD has pointed out you are equating cruelty with consumption- you might as well had in your fishing rod now and join PETA

First link when you google 'do fish feel pain'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2983045.stm

Fish do feel pain, scientists say
By Alex Kirby
BBC News Online environment correspondent

The first conclusive evidence of pain perception in fish is said to have been found by UK scientists.
Rainbow trout BBC
Fish have pain receptors like us

This complements earlier findings that both birds and mammals can feel pain, and challenges assertions that fish are impervious to it.

The scientists found sites in the heads of rainbow trout that responded to damaging stimuli.

They also found the fish showed marked reactions when exposed to harmful substances.

The argument over whether fish feel pain has long been a subject of dispute between anglers and animal rights activists.

The research, by a team from the Roslin Institute and the University of Edinburgh, is published in Proceedings B of the Royal Society, the UK's national academy of science.

The researchers, led by Dr Lynne Sneddon, say the "profound behavioural and physiological changes" shown by the trout after exposure to noxious substances are comparable to those seen in higher mammals.

I took this a a reason to raise and slaughter them humanely - not as a reason to ban consumption.

So as FD pointed out- you wish to ban all hunting then?

Pig are domesticated in even stone age cultures - there's no need to hunt their wild population for food.

Fish are now farmed- there is no need for you to continue recreational fishing, much less C&R fishing

A clean bullet from a professional shooter is a humane way of dispatching them, unlike the slow death involved in harpooning whales.

A clean bullet from a professional shooter is a humane way of dispatching them, unlike the slow death involved in hooking a fish and the induced barotrauma they suffer on the way up relegating C&R as a complete waste of time.

...you still don't get it do you?

Did you read the link 6 posts up?

So what will become of recreational fishing when the next study confirms differently? Do you really think that that study is conclusive and no further studies will be entered into?

This is the point- You tread a slippery slope when you advocate one animal shouldn't be hunted over another based on what 'current' studies classify as pain/sentience- they are subject to change and stances like yours will provide animal activists all the ammunition they will need.

Sustainability should be the only measure, not whether they feel pain or cultural bias or the manufacturing of reasons to sustain that bias.

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 12:36pm:


The only commercial pig hunters I know of in Australia are those whch are paid to cull the feral population and I already mentioned that. There is no commercial wild harvest of pigs for food in Australia, ie what would be akin to they way we used to hunt whales. I don't recall saying rec hunting of pigs doesn't exist either. As for wild boar in Germany no doubt they would command a huge ammout of money as it would be a niche business - not a wholesale commercial harvest.  


freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 12:36pm:


Because I don't sit in front of a computer all day - I've been out fishing. I already answered it when I said I would rule out harvesting whales, dophins and great apes. So you could already infer I would allow hunting of pigs.