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Reply #15 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 9:23pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 4:25pm:

Being 'homeless' was one of the best experiences I had in life.
All I had was my 1967 Dodge slant and the freedom to go where I wanted. One of my favourite spots was Cape Schank on the Mornington Peninsula.
My 'homeless' mate travelled with his dog around Tasmania with much enjoyment in his well set-up van and now lives in a nice 40ft yacht ($5,000 donated by me).

Oh look. One of my older posts and names. Grin

I forgot about this one. Cheesy

Homelessness is just a label people put on people who don't live comfortably in Cities.
Were the Aboriginals, nomadic in their ways - homeless?
I don't think so.
I lived in the bush recently - it was a great 'lifestyle' and I only upgraded into a caravan because someone offered to lend me one for 'free'.

I tend to think that all the 'city' homeless would be 'better off' not making the other city people look good, if they went into the bush and got some fresh air for starters. They might find that they only 'lack' in city life, rather than country life.

Something lost, is something gained.

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Reply #16 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 9:56pm

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This is my first posting in this forum - some of you might know me from other incarnations as BRTD

The closure of mental health facilities and programs has meant that many more people are now on the street with serious mental illnesses. They are extremely vulnerable, and it's disgusting how many have been murdered over recent years.

Homelessness is not just confined to those with mental illnesses, and there are many families, particularly single parents, who have no permanent address. Homeless shelters report that they are forced to turn tens of thousands away each year because there simply aren't enough beds for them.

Many who find themselves on the street are there because they have lost a job and been unable to pay the rent, and may not have any support networks to turn to in an emergency. When you consider how many people in this country are in major debt and live from pay cheque to pay cheque, it's not surprising that homelessness is a growing problem.

If governments were serious about addressing homelessness that would be creating more public housing, not selling it off and letting it run down. The waiting lists in NSW are years long, and for many this is the only thing they have to fall back on. Cry

Good first post... all true.

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Reply #17 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:01pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 7:56pm:

mellie wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 7:46pm:

My relatives stayed in a motel overnight on their way to Sydney for Xmas recently and were quite shocked to have learned that those sharing rooms either side of theirs in a 3 star motel were 'said' homeless people being accommodated over Xmas.

My Aunty made the mistake of giving one woman who advised she was on a methadone program a loaf of bread and $20 to see her through the night, (she said she was hungry and needed sanitary napkins ), and until 11pm these people were knocking on their door asking for my uncles cigarettes, because he had made the mistake of giving them a couple when they first arrived. Before they realised they were bludgers.

None of these people arrived in cars my uncle advised, and being so far from a railway station he wondered how on earth they even got there...or did the government pay for their cab fair too?
They didn't have any children with them, were 6 adults in their 30's and 40's, both male and female, and were smoking drugs on the porch out the front, and although they occupied different rooms, they appeared to know each other my relatives advised.

Now, with our government accommodating homeless people in motels, why cant they put this funding towards more permanent, longer term solutions?

They said after this, they will never stay in a motel again as they hardly slept a wink all night. They were worried about these 'impoverished' people breaking into their car whilst they slept.
Mind you, they were supposed to be in need of a bed for the evening, but spent the whole night socialising(smoking dope ) and partying on and making noise until dawn. Go figure?

Tell me, how is it that these 'said' homeless people can afford dope, but cant afford their own personal hygiene products and or even a loaf of bread?

I was so angry when I found out my aunty and uncle got sucked in.

Fair enough if they are truly in need, but to ask for food, then in the next breath have the temerity to offer my poor old great uncle, (80 years old) some pot when he went out to retrieve something from his car whilst they were smoking pot was absolutely disgusting.

This is the state of our country.

This welfare wastage has to stop!

I'm surprised that your relatives fell for the oldest con in the "homeless" book.
For any homeless person who claims that they need money for such and such, then if you are going to help them then you don't give them money, instead you take them to the place and buy the actual item.

Or do what we did in Cambra once, and offer a homeless guy our vacant caravan with annex in return for a little work on the property..

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Grappler Racist Filth Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90422 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Homelessness in Australia Reply #18 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:03pm Gordon wrote on Dec 20^th, 2018 at 8:23pm: It raining datsun cogs in Sydney tonight. I hope all the homeless have a nice dry alcove to sleep in. Nor sleet, nor rain, nor snow, nor found, Shall keep the homeless From their appointed round. Storm took out power here.... buggar....rained datsun cogs....
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Reply #19 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:13pm

When we say 'Homeless' and 'Dole Recipient' - we always leave out the bit where they are 'city' homeless or country homeless or Dole Bludger or Dole Battler.

I think the Media has regressed into the USA 'stereotype' or Northern Hemisphere version and forgotten what Australia started out 'originally' under British interaction.
Where homeless in the Country was a state of FREEDOM and the Dole system worked well providing the 'Battlers' the safety net to bounce back up again from being permanently poor.

Now its city-only Homeless and Dole Bludgers only.

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Reply #20 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:22pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

When we say 'Homeless' and 'Dole Recipient' - we always leave out the bit where they are 'city' homeless or country homeless or Dole Bludger or Dole Battler.

I think the Media has regressed into the USA 'stereotype' or Northern Hemisphere version and forgotten what Australia started out 'originally' under British interaction.
Where homeless in the Country was a state of FREEDOM and the Dole system worked well providing the 'Battlers' the safety net to bounce back up again from being permanently poor.

Now its city-only Homeless and Dole Bludgers only.

We have homeless that choose it. Not in the way you do. They choose to be destitute. Y'all probably should know where I volunteer by now and I have seen people put into housing and walk away from it a week later because their "friends" are not there. They then end up on the river bank again by choice. One guy was offered housing for $150 a week, I guess utilities on top of than but he refused, "do you know how much piss that can buy?".

Not all homeless are poor unfortunates, many choose it to stay drug addicted, piss heads. I volunteer with an ex homeless person, she was not cut from the same cloth. She did not see that as her life, she's no longer homeless. I can't comprehend what keeps some people doing what they do. We have a couple of homeless guys that come from local families that are well off and can return if they obey some rules like stop stealing our poo, stop the drugs. They do not go to them. Their homelessness is their choice.

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Reply #22 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:29pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:26pm:

Maybe send them to Central America where they can fit in with all the other Zombies who just don't give a stuff unless its substance abuse and destitution?

Afterall... the British sent such 'here', to fit right in Wink

I think you'll find that is wrong Jasin. Most Irish sent here would these days be classed as political prisoners and the poms were hanging 12yo girls for theft. Some had their sentences converted to life here. It was a very brutal time.

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Reply #23 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:41pm

You might find that much of Australia's early 'Euro' history was full of lies and propaganda.

The sympathy of being sent here for stealing a loaf of bread was that there were many paedophiles, murderers, rapists, etc - who were also sent here.

I don't buy into the Irish V English dramatics - its pedantic and has about as much importance as Serbs v Croats Roll Eyes

Irish or English - they are 'both' over there on the 'West' of Europe... together. Tongue

One played rich, while the other cried poor for sleeping with the rich man's wife... blah, blah Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:55pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:41pm:

You might find that much of Australia's early 'Euro' history was full of lies and propaganda.

The sympathy of being sent here for stealing a loaf of bread was that there were many paedophiles, murderers, rapists, etc - who were also sent here.

I don't buy into the Irish V English dramatics - its pedantic and has about as much importance as Serbs v Croats Roll Eyes

Irish or English - they are 'both' over there on the 'West' of Europe... together. Tongue

One played rich, while the other cried poor for sleeping with the rich man's wife... blah, blah Roll Eyes

I have a stabby Croat mate that would love to educate you about Coat/Serb relations.

You can buy what you like. The fact is people were hung, as young as 12, for theft in England. Any Irishman that didn't like how the English treated them was not going to end up in a good place. It was not the world we inhabit. They were over there, then they were over here, against their will.

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Reply #25 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 11:07pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2018 at 10:41pm:

You might find that much of Australia's early 'Euro' history was full of lies and propaganda.

The sympathy of being sent here for stealing a loaf of bread was that there were many paedophiles, murderers, rapists, etc - who were also sent here.

I don't buy into the Irish V English dramatics - its pedantic and has about as much importance as Serbs v Croats Roll Eyes

Irish or English - they are 'both' over there on the 'West' of Europe... together. Tongue

One played rich, while the other cried poor for sleeping with the rich man's wife... blah, blah Roll Eyes

No, their crimes were well documented. Most were sent to Australia for petty theft and fraud.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56861 Gender:	Re: Homelessness in Australia Reply #26 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 11:14pm It's amazing how many people 'here' (in the future) - still hold onto 'old' Old-World existences ...then go off at Moslems for still acting like as if they were in the Middle-East, and not Australia.
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Reply #27 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 11:20pm

Jasin wrote on Dec 20^th, 2018 at 11:14pm:

It's amazing how many people 'here' (in the future) - still hold onto 'old' Old-World existences Roll Eyes

...then go off at Moslems for still acting like as if they were in the Middle-East, and not Australia. Tongue

And?

Have you seen me holding historical animosity? Acknowledging the past is not making excuses for it, then or now. Understanding it is the key to understanding where we are now. If there is nowhere to set out from how can you expect a destination?

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Reply #28 - Dec 21^st, 2018 at 12:00am

Oh - I thought the early settlers, of whatever kind, created a pretty good country until recent times when the flood of dimwits came along.... and decided they could change it according to some formula..

Anyway - when I was thrust into homelessness (after owning two homes, a Jaguar and a Daimler etc), I approached it from the point of view of that journalist in America who went 'Black' and traveled the South to see first hand what Negroes had to put up with...

It was an eye-opener.... and definitely worthy of a book... but the most revealing part of it was seeing first hand the true nature of the society in which we live....... governed by thieves, liars, cheats, bullies and cowards....

You'll be right when you grow up more, Jas.... and get some real experience in life....

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Reply #29 - Dec 21^st, 2018 at 4:52am

Homeless people are one of the primary reasons I hate the grubberment and the scum within.

Disgusting parasitic worthless grubs, them all.

In this day and age, there should not be homeless people.
We pay upward of 30% of our income every week to this black hole of a grubberment.
A grubberment who waste the money on frivolous shite, sending billions to worthless shitehole countries and lining their own pockets with graft, corruption and bribes.

We should be helping the people IN OUR OWN COUNTRY FIRST, not wasting it on people who are nothing to us.

The grubberment should be building affordable housing, providing shelter for the less fortunate in Australia, helping the mentally ill and fighting the corporate and multinational greed that is destroying our society.

I woukd have no problem paying the ridiculous amount of tax I pay, if it were used as intended.
But our grubberment prefer to waste it, send it to shitehole countries and give themselves far far too much.

We need a revolution.........now.

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