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Jun 9th, 2025 at 8:55am
 
Christian Ultranationalism is the ideology that blends extreme nationalism with religious rhetoric, promoting the idea that a global cabal is working to eradicate the white race – and yes, it is often just a cover for racism and anti-immigrant beliefs. The basic premise is that everything in the Western world needs to be toppled and rebuilt.

There are plenty of figures within the US administration that adhere to these beliefs, and they are OBSESSED with South Africa and Russia. Obviously, there’s a lot of discrepancies mixed into this belief system, which makes it an even more dangerous manipulation of religion for political purposes. Oh, and it just so happens to mirror a lot of Russian propaganda efforts.

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Christian ultranationalism is an extreme ideology that combines fervent Christian religious beliefs with radical nationalism. It often promotes the idea that a specific nation or ethnic group is divinely chosen or favored by God, and that its political, cultural, and religious dominance must be preserved or expanded—sometimes through aggressive means.

Key Features of Christian Ultranationalism:
Divine Chosenness – Followers believe their nation or people have a special covenant with God, similar to biblical Israel. This can lead to a sense of superiority over other nations.

Militant Patriotism – The nation is seen as sacred, and loyalty to it becomes a religious duty. Dissent or multiculturalism may be viewed as treason or heresy.

Religious Exclusivism – Only certain forms of Christianity (often conservative or fundamentalist) are considered "true," and other religions (or even other Christian denominations) are seen as threats.

Xenophobia & Anti-Globalism – Opposition to immigration, international institutions, and foreign influences, often framed as a defense of Christian identity.

Merging of Church and State – Advocacy for laws and policies based on strict Christian doctrine, sometimes including theocracy or authoritarian rule.

Conspiracy Theories – Belief in apocalyptic or existential threats (e.g., "globalists," secularism, Islam) that must be resisted to preserve the nation’s Christian character.

Historical & Modern Examples:
Crusader Ideology – Medieval Christian holy wars to reclaim the Holy Land.

Spanish National Catholicism – Franco’s regime fused Catholicism with Spanish nationalism.

Russian Orthodox Ultranationalism – Some Russian groups see Moscow as the "Third Rome" and Russia as the defender of global Christianity.

American Christian Nationalism – Far-right movements in the U.S. that advocate a "Christian America," often opposing secularism and liberal democracy.

Criticism & Dangers:
Exclusionary & Violent – Can justify discrimination, persecution, or even war against "outsiders."

Undermines Democracy – May reject pluralism in favor of religious authoritarianism.

Distorts Christianity – Many mainstream Christians reject ultranationalism, citing teachings on love, humility, and universal brotherhood.


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Reply #1 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 8:59am
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 9:42am
 



Is there a genocide of white South Africans as Trump claims?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wg5pg1xp5o

South Africa does not release crime figures based on race, but in May Police Minister Senzo Mchunu gave a breakdown of killings on farms in order to debunk claims of a genocide.

He said that between January and March, five out of the six people killed on farms were black and one was white.

The white victim lived on a farm, while the black people who were killed comprised two farm owners, two employees and one manager, Mchunu said.

He added that in the previous quarter, from October to December 2024, 12 murders on farms were recorded. One of the 12 - a farm owner - was white.



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Reply #3 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 1:10pm
 
It's only a matter of time before they conduct War upon Whites to kick them out... just like in Asia.
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Reply #4 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 1:20pm
 
99% + of caucasians are a vital part of the human family. The only ones beating the drum of war are christian ultranationalism.

christian ultranationalism like Putin, against caucasian christians like Ukraine.
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Reply #5 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 1:37pm
 
Right Nationalism, MAGA, the Religious right, The Republicans etc are all as far from christianity as it is possible to get.

There is no such thing as Christian Ultranationalism like the rest it is an oxymoron, maybe more of the second part.

All these groups are anti christian in nature. None pass the most basic sniff test on Christianity, they have no christian basis belief or standards, they are the exact opposite.
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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 6:08pm
 
Poor Ai is  starting to look like Mothy-lite. Wink
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Reply #7 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 6:23pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 9th, 2025 at 8:55am:
Christian Ultranationalism is the ideology that blends extreme nationalism with religious rhetoric, promoting the idea that a global cabal is working to eradicate the white race – and yes, it is often just a cover for racism and anti-immigrant beliefs. The basic premise is that everything in the Western world needs to be toppled and rebuilt.

There are plenty of figures within the US administration that adhere to these beliefs, and they are OBSESSED with South Africa and Russia. Obviously, there’s a lot of discrepancies mixed into this belief system, which makes it an even more dangerous manipulation of religion for political purposes. Oh, and it just so happens to mirror a lot of Russian propaganda efforts.

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Christian ultranationalism is an extreme ideology that combines fervent Christian religious beliefs with radical nationalism. It often promotes the idea that a specific nation or ethnic group is divinely chosen or favored by God, and that its political, cultural, and religious dominance must be preserved or expanded—sometimes through aggressive means.

Key Features of Christian Ultranationalism:
Divine Chosenness – Followers believe their nation or people have a special covenant with God, similar to biblical Israel. This can lead to a sense of superiority over other nations.

Militant Patriotism – The nation is seen as sacred, and loyalty to it becomes a religious duty. Dissent or multiculturalism may be viewed as treason or heresy.

Religious Exclusivism – Only certain forms of Christianity (often conservative or fundamentalist) are considered "true," and other religions (or even other Christian denominations) are seen as threats.

Xenophobia & Anti-Globalism – Opposition to immigration, international institutions, and foreign influences, often framed as a defense of Christian identity.

Merging of Church and State – Advocacy for laws and policies based on strict Christian doctrine, sometimes including theocracy or authoritarian rule.

Conspiracy Theories – Belief in apocalyptic or existential threats (e.g., "globalists," secularism, Islam) that must be resisted to preserve the nation’s Christian character.

Historical & Modern Examples:
Crusader Ideology – Medieval Christian holy wars to reclaim the Holy Land.

Spanish National Catholicism – Franco’s regime fused Catholicism with Spanish nationalism.

Russian Orthodox Ultranationalism – Some Russian groups see Moscow as the "Third Rome" and Russia as the defender of global Christianity.

American Christian Nationalism – Far-right movements in the U.S. that advocate a "Christian America," often opposing secularism and liberal democracy.

Criticism & Dangers:
Exclusionary & Violent – Can justify discrimination, persecution, or even war against "outsiders."

Undermines Democracy – May reject pluralism in favor of religious authoritarianism.

Distorts Christianity – Many mainstream Christians reject ultranationalism, citing teachings on love, humility, and universal brotherhood.



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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 6:30pm
 
Concern over mass migration is terrorist ideology, says Prevent
Online guidance says ‘cultural nationalism’ could be a reason for referring someone for deradicalisation


An online training course hosted on the Government’s website for Prevent lists “cultural nationalism” as a belief that could lead to an individual being referred to the deradicalisation scheme.
This encompasses a conviction that “Western culture is under threat from mass migration and a lack of integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups”, staff taking the course are told.
It is the latest example of officials, police and the courts appearing to restrict free speech.
In recent weeks, The Telegraph has disclosed that a pensioner was wrongly arrested for warning of anti-Semitism on Twitter, as well as highlighting the case of a man who was given a criminal sentence for burning the Koran.
The Prevent programme was the subject of a damning report two years ago and failed to stop Axel Rudakubana, the Southport killer, who was referred to it on three separate occasions.
Free speech critics warned that the definition of “cultural nationalism” was too widely drawn and could, in theory, mean that even Sir Keir Starmer and Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, would fall foul for their past comments.


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Schools, universities, hospitals and other public sector bodies have a legal duty to stop people from being drawn into terrorism. Each year, thousands of teachers, police officers, health workers and other staff undergo Prevent training.
Prevent’s official “refresher awareness” course, hosted on gov.uk, states that “cultural nationalism” is one of the most common “sub-categories of extreme Right-wing terrorist ideologies”, alongside white supremacism and white/ethno-nationalism.

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In a letter to Ms Cooper, Lord Young said this was a “matter of serious concern”.
He said: “While not defined in law, nor subject to statutory constraint, the definition in the training course expands the scope of suspicion to include individuals whose views are entirely lawful but politically controversial.
Now that ‘cultural nationalism’ has been classified as a subcategory of extreme Right-wing terrorist ideology, even mainstream, Right-of-centre beliefs risk being treated as ideologically suspect, despite falling well within the bounds of lawful expression.
“Topics captured under the Prevent category of ‘cultural nationalism’ include widely held views, ranging from concerns about immigration and social cohesion to the belief that integration should be a policy priority, and that shared cultural norms help sustain a liberal society.”

Lord Young suggested the definition could even capture Mr Jenrick, the former immigration minister, who has previously warned that “excessive, uncontrolled migration threatens to cannibalise the compassion of the British public.”
Senior Labour politicians could also fall within the scope of the definition, he claimed. Lord Young cited Sir Keir’s recent statement that without fair immigration rules, “we risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together.”

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Oppressive shites.  Diversity is where countries go to die.
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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 6:43pm
 
Prevent has long faced critiques for failing to actually stop terror attacks while disproportionately focusing on alleged right-wing threats.

Indeed, a 2023 independent government report by William Shawcross, which found that “extreme right-wing ideology is often identified within Prevent in a manner that includes populist conservative voices who have nothing to do with violent extremism… Yet when it comes to Islamism only the most violently fascist jihadist groups appear to be identified.”

“All the terrorist attacks across Britain committed since my review was commissioned have been Islamist in nature,” Shawcross said. “But far more people are now being referred to Prevent because of extreme right-wing concerns, and the largest numbers appear to be referred because of mental health concerns and domestic and social ‘vulnerabilities’.”

The report also noted that over half of the terror attacks since 2016 had been committed by individuals who were known to the Prevent programme, meaning that they had failed in their aim of de-radicalisation.

This trend continued last year with Axel Rudakubana, the second-generation migrant who committed a mass stabbing at a children’s dance party in Southport, killing three young girls and injuring 10 others. Rudakubana had been reported to Prevent on three separate occasions prior to committing the horrific attack, yet was dismissed as a threat by authorities each time.


There have also been warnings that by classifying “cultural nationalism” as an indication of extremism, the anti-terror scheme could be used to stifle public debate.



Jihadists Remain Europe’s Biggest Terror Threat Despite Focus on Right-Wing
“The findings of the [The annual EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report] 2022 confirm that lone actors associated with jihadist and right-wing violent extremism remain the biggest threat associated with potential terrorist and violent extremist attacks in the EU,” the report published on Wednesday reads.

However, while the report’s own introduction lists right-wing terror as being one of the greatest threats to Europe, the publication’s own data shows that there were over four times the arrests made in regards to radical Islam, as well as nearly four times the number of terror attacks that were either completed, foiled, or failed.



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Reply #10 - Jun 9th, 2025 at 6:53pm
 
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“Agencies like counter-terrorism police and MI5 are much more rigorous in their classifications,” they said. “We are talking about Right-wing extremists, who are often neo-Nazis. It undermines the seriousness of what counter-extremism is all about.”


From Franks link.

Albanese must go harder on Christian Ultranationalist in Australia ... including protecting any children being turned against the country by them.

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