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Reply #150 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:21pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 7th, 2025 at 8:16pm:
Not Fe2



Fe3+ represents the iron atom with a +3 oxidation state, also known as the ferric ion.
This means that the iron atom has lost three electrons.
Iron can also exist in the +2 oxidation state, called the ferrous ion (Fe2+).
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Reply #151 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:24pm
 
All these questions require just average intelligence, some experience googling.

Why can’t the high school dropout answer any of these simple questions?
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Reply #152 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:29pm
 
OK,

you have been trekking the outback, looking at rock formations, looking for something to mine.

You find an outcrop with lots of greenish rocks. What have you possibly found? LOTS of greenish rocks/country rock. What (mining) zone are you in?

Note that a geologist is likely not that interested in a single mine—he wants a mineral province, mine on a massive scale.

What branches of geology would our geologist hero use? Not palaeontology, naturally.
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Reply #153 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:34pm
 
Easy question.

Diamond is formed by heat and pressure.

Where are diamonds found? (original location, not diamonds eroded and carried by streams etc.)
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Reply #154 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:40pm
 
What was mined at Broken Hill?

Kindergarten–level question.
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Reply #155 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:40pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 7th, 2025 at 8:24pm:
All these questions require just average intelligence, some experience googling.

Why can’t the high school dropout answer any of these simple questions?


Purple colour?

This is the sort of answer that would be expected from a geologist
as of course they have trained in chemistry and physics:


https://www.quora.com/Why-is-each-elements-emission-spectrum-unique


Each element's emission spectrum is unique due to the specific arrangement of electrons around its nucleus and the distinct energy levels these electrons occupy. Here’s a breakdown of the reasons:

Electron Energy Levels: Electrons in an atom exist in quantized energy levels. When an electron absorbs energy, it can jump to a higher energy level (excited state). When it returns to a lower energy level, it emits energy in the form of light.

Energy Differences: The energy difference between these levels is unique for each element. As a result, the wavelengths (or colors) of light emitted correspond to specific energy transitions.

Quantum Mechanics: The behavior of electrons in atoms is governed by quantum mechanics, which dictates that only certain energy levels are allowed. This quantization leads to discrete lines in the emission spectrum.

Spectral Lines: Each transition corresponds to a specific wavelength of light, resulting in a series of bright lines (spectral lines) at particular wavelengths. The pattern of these lines, known as the emission spectrum, is unique to each element.

Chemical Environment: While the fundamental emission lines of an element are consistent, the surrounding environment (such as temperature and pressure) can slightly alter the observed spectrum, but the core features remain characteristic of the element.

In summary, the unique arrangement of electrons and the specific energy transitions that occur within each element lead to its characteristic emission spectrum, allowing scientists to identify elements based on their spectral lines.
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Reply #156 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:43pm
 
Irrelevant crap. Can’t you even Google?

I said greenish rocks.

I also mentioned a fossicker, that a geologist would not be interested in a single separate mine.

Try again, doofus.
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Reply #157 - May 7th, 2025 at 8:49pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 7th, 2025 at 8:43pm:
Irrelevant crap. Can’t you even Google?

I said greenish rocks.

I also mentioned a fossicker, that a geologist would not be interested in a single separate mine.

Try again, doofus.




Monk,
We were talking about Quartz that had a purple colour and why.   Roll Eyes

Also -
you never understood about the Hybridization of atomic orbitals.
I can't find the post where you admitted that.

Monk - you're not passing your job interview.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #158 - May 7th, 2025 at 9:05pm
 
You are standing on a copper deposit—lots of malachite, likely some azurite, copper pyrites etc.

A rich deposit—is the whole mine like that. Well, not mine yet, orebody, is that all like that? if not—what are you standing on?

Any answers to the continental drift questions yet? I have basically given the answer, are you too thick to see it?
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Reply #159 - May 7th, 2025 at 9:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 7th, 2025 at 9:05pm:
You are standing on a copper deposit—lots of malachite, likely some azurite, copper pyrites etc.

A rich deposit—is the whole mine like that. Well, not mine yet, orebody, is that all like that? if not—what are you standing on?

Any answers to the continental drift questions yet? I have basically given the answer, are you too thick to see it?



Monk - I ask the questions -
I don't claim to be a geologist.
I do know that the questions I've asked you are all about what a 1st year student would know -
how do I know? - because I've actually been to University and studied science.  Roll Eyes

purple light -
inorganic Chemistry 101.
wave motion in Physics - 101.

It's nice to have so called experts at Ozpol but
when they can't pass stage 1 questions - it makes me wonder about them.   Roll Eyes

Brian is the same - a DD - a doctor of Divinity but
he can't answer a single question about the Bible.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #160 - May 8th, 2025 at 4:48am
 
No, you have not been to University. A read of the mishmash of crap that is your “Chinese bioweapon” thread in Fringe shows that clearly. No real evidence provided, no critical thinking in all your 120+ pages of crap shows that.

Now you purport to show I do not have a B.Sc. in geology and zoology from Adelaide University. You do not discuss geology, you do not discuss zoology. Instead you blather on about mineralogy and think ferric/ferrous is hybridisation of electron orbits? You found that in some googling and think it applies everywhere, well you want it to apply everywhere because you think blathering about hybridisation of electron orbitals makes you sound edumacated. It is just googling.


If you want to discuss geology I have posed some questions and even more or less given the answers but you are too thick to see that.

That you have never been near a university is a given in your long-suffering Environment MRB where you never discuss the environment or ecology.

So—talk geology, talk zoology or admit you have no clue about any of this.
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Reply #161 - May 8th, 2025 at 7:49am
 
One set or single piece was found in the head of mothra, phil, kanga, smith, brian, and some others.
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Reply #162 - May 8th, 2025 at 7:54am
 
I guess in Adelaide 'university' geology and zoology are complementary subjects.... you could become a professor like Langton from some tiny never-heard of 'college' out on a peninsula poking into the Arafura Sea and claim kudos worldwide from the gullible - and I could get you a hat  ... a very BIG hat ... you need it!

Them rocks is fossilised brains of ancient progressives ... the ancient gentle Aborigines or something.... you know the blurb ... Lividia Thorpe's 'ancestors' partied day and night along the Murray and in Gippsland.... you must realise that ... it's a miracle then their population - without any contraception etc - didn't explode!!!

Just can't figure that one out - YOU?    Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Reply #163 - May 8th, 2025 at 9:06am
 
The Mawson Laboratories at Adelaide University are well known for the Geology done/taught there you moron!

Like Booby, you never did any serious study. Believe me, it shows.

Zoology is important because fossils:

1. Help date rock formations

2. Indicate the environment at the time the rocks were being deposited—marine or lacustrine, energetic or energetic then calm, high or low oxygen.

That is why paleontology and palynology are important subbranches of geology. Pretty crystals—largely irrelevant.
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Reply #164 - May 8th, 2025 at 9:37am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 8th, 2025 at 4:48am:
No, you have not been to University. A read of the mishmash of crap that is your “Chinese bioweapon” thread in Fringe shows that clearly. No real evidence provided, no critical thinking in all your 120+ pages of crap shows that.

Now you purport to show I do not have a B.Sc. in geology and zoology from Adelaide University. You do not discuss geology, you do not discuss zoology. Instead you blather on about mineralogy and think ferric/ferrous is hybridisation of electron orbits? You found that in some googling and think it applies everywhere, well you want it to apply everywhere because you think blathering about hybridisation of electron orbitals makes you sound edumacated. It is just googling.


If you want to discuss geology I have posed some questions and even more or less given the answers but you are too thick to see that.

That you have never been near a university is a given in your long-suffering Environment MRB where you never discuss the environment or ecology.

So—talk geology, talk zoology or admit you have no clue about any of this.



Monk is forgiven.
This is not Chemistry 101 but more advanced:


Fe3+ Hybridization:
Electron Configuration: Fe3+ has an electronic configuration of [Ar]3d5.
Hybridization: The Fe3+ ion in high-spin complexes typically undergoes hybridization of 3d, 4s, and 4p orbitals, resulting in d2sp3 or sp3d2 hybridization.
d2sp3 (Octahedral): In this case, two 3d orbitals, one 4s orbital, and three 4p orbitals combine to form six equivalent hybrid orbitals, which are then used to bond with ligands. This geometry is known as octahedral.
sp3d2 (Octahedral): In this case, one 4s orbital, three 4p orbitals, and two 3d orbitals combine to form six hybrid orbitals, again leading to octahedral geometry.
Example: A common example is the [Fe(H2O)6]3+ complex, where the Fe3+ ion is octahedrally coordinated by six water molecules.


Fe2+ Hybridization:
Electron Configuration: Fe2+ has an electronic configuration of [Ar]3d6.
Hybridization: The Fe2+ ion in high-spin complexes typically undergoes hybridization of 3d, 4s, and 4p orbitals, also resulting in d2sp3 or sp3d2 hybridization.
d2sp3 (Octahedral): Similar to Fe3+, the 3d, 4s, and 4p orbitals combine to form six equivalent hybrid orbitals, resulting in an octahedral geometry.
sp3d2 (Octahedral): Similarly, the combination of 3d, 4s, and 4p orbitals leads to an octahedral geometry.
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