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Reply #15 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

Huh Huh Huh


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.


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Reply #16 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

Huh Huh Huh


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.




See what I mean Baron....Your Meme was complete bullshit but you have every right to post it!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/hydroxychloroquine-doesnt-b...
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Reply #17 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:37pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm:
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Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients




only hospitalised patients?
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Reply #18 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:44pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

Huh Huh Huh


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.




See what I mean Baron....Your Meme was complete bullshit but you have every right to post it!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/hydroxychloroquine-doesnt-b...



For the scientifically illiterate like you when later studies show something works they throw out earlier studies showing it doesn't.

This peer reviewed study 4 years later showed HCQ has benefits treating covid.

Quote:
Evaluation of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for the prevention of COVID-19 (COPCOV): A double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled trial


Published: September 12, 2024

What do these findings mean?
Although CQ or HCQ are unlikely to be used in COVID-19 prevention at this stage, they could have been deployed with benefit earlier, and they might have value in future pandemics.

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004428





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Reply #19 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:46pm
 
Two truths cannot contradict each other.

Which one was misinformation the article when Trump was POTUS or the one when Biden was POTUS?

The later article will be the correct one.

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Reply #20 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:55pm
 
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Pauline Hanson 🇦🇺
@PaulineHansonOz

The Albanese Labor Government's introduction of new misinformation and disinformation legislation is just a renewed attack on freedom of speech in Australia.

This terrible bill will be strongly opposed by
@OneNationAus!

Labor has never understood freedom of speech or how it works, and people always fear what they don’t understand.

That’s why Labor wants to shut down freedom of speech.

That’s why Labor wants to give itself the power to decide what is misinformation and disinformation, and use this power to silence honest debate and honest criticism.

Labor is appalled at the very notion that Australians still have the right to say things that Labor doesn’t agree with.

Labor doesn’t trust the Australian people to sort out truth from fiction for themselves.

With this bill, Labor shows its contempt for the intelligence of the Australian people.

Labor will use this power to silence dissent.


If you speak the truth that gender ideology is contrived nonsense, or that climate change is a scam, or that COVID-19 vaccines are harmful – Labor will have the power to silence you.

This bill is all the evidence this country needs to have a good, hard look at enshrining the right to free speech in the Constitution.

One Nation tried to move an inquiry to kick start this process.

Labor opposed it along with those other staunch opponents of free speech in Australia, the Greens.

When are Australians going to wake up and understand these parties for what they are?

They despise democracy and the principles which underpin its foundations.


There is no democracy in Australia without freedom of speech, its most important principle.

One Nation will always fight to protect true freedom of speech in our continual efforts to defend Australian democracy.

https://x.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/1835554606153384130


The parties that support free speech

Libertarian
One Nation
Clive Palmer
Liberals?
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Reply #21 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 7:36pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:44pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:18pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 6:14pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 5:33pm:
Most people know when something is bullshit but they are entitled to decide what they believe based on their own opinions....Media companies could just flag anything they believe is missinformation and let people decide from there....This sounds like something a Communist country would do to control the information the people can receive....It is a load of crap and should be dumped!!!

Huh Huh Huh


The people who tell us men can get pregnant want to legislate on misinformation.

Media companies are the biggest suppliers of misinformation.




See what I mean Baron....Your Meme was complete bullshit but you have every right to post it!!!

Smiley Smiley Smiley

Quote:
Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t benefit hospitalized COVID-19 patients


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/hydroxychloroquine-doesnt-b...



For the scientifically illiterate like you when later studies show something works they throw out earlier studies showing it doesn't.

This peer reviewed study 4 years later showed HCQ has benefits treating covid.

Quote:
Evaluation of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine for the prevention of COVID-19 (COPCOV): A double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled trial


Published: September 12, 2024

What do these findings mean?
Although CQ or HCQ are unlikely to be used in COVID-19 prevention at this stage, they could have been deployed with benefit earlier, and they might have value in future pandemics.

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004428







Fair enough....Could have and might have....Very convincing....Take a few doses just to be sure!!!

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Reply #22 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 9:58pm
 
What would be the measure of truth under this legislation?

Who would decide it and how ?


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Reply #23 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:12pm
 


1984  George Orwell

https://www.abhafoundation.org/assets/books/html/1984/139.html

The alteration of the past is necessary for two reasons, one of which is subsidiary and, so to speak, precautionary. The subsidiary reason is that the Party member, like the proletarian, tolerates present-day conditions partly because he has no standards of comparison. He must be cut off from the past, just as he must be cut off from foreign countries, because it is necessary for him to believe that he is better off than his ancestors and that the average level of material comfort is constantly rising. But by far the more important reason for the readjustment of the past is the need to safeguard the infallibility of the Party. It is not merely that speeches, statistics, and records of every kind must be constantly brought up to date in order to show that the predictions of the Party were in all cases right. It is also that no change in doctrine or in political alignment can ever be admitted. For to change one's mind, or even one's policy, is a confession of weakness. If, for example, Eurasia or Eastasia (whichever it may be) is the enemy today, then that country must always have been the enemy. And if the facts say otherwise then the facts must be altered. Thus history is continuously rewritten. This day-to-day falsification of the past, carried out by the Ministry of Truth, is as necessary to the stability of the regime as the work of repression and espionage carried out by the Ministry of Love.
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Reply #24 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm
 
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Reply #25 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm
 
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Brian - stop trolling.   Angry
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Reply #26 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:
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Brian - stop trolling.   Angry


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Reply #27 - Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:32pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 16th, 2024 at 10:28pm:


Brian - stop trolling.   Angry


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