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Reply #30 - May 26th, 2024 at 5:48pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:36pm:
Frank wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 9:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 5:53pm:
Frank wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 2:42pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 1:58pm:
We need a massive crackdown on costs of living and working for the majority....



Sack Bowen, ditch the net zero lunacy, cut immigration by trolley pushers, uber drivers and food delivery "students", cut government spending and income tax for workers,† scrap all exemptions from the GST.

For starters.


well said frank† Smiley


Nah, you are all low tax, personal responsibility losers.

The happiest peple in† the world live under high-tax regimes.

https://www.financialexpress.com/policy/economy-those-who-pay-higher-tax-are-hap...

World Happiness Report 2018: Those who pay higher tax are happier! Donít believe us, hereís the proof

Eminent social-scientist Benjamin Radcliff has drawn a parallel between happiness and tax rates, saying that ďhigher levels of taxation suggest higher levels of satisfaction with lifeĒ, and hence more happiness. And there are other social scientists too who contend the same.16 Mar 2018

Meanwhile, heterodox economists are offering a zero tax† (which you crave for),† zero interest rate, zero inflation, full employment economy, but you need to do your own research on that topic.

That is as stupid as you are, parrot.


Er...in a choice beteween Rafcliffe and you...no contest.

And a choice between orthodox Neoclassical/Friedmanite economists,† and heterodox economists who know poverty is a political choice - again no contest.

If you have quoted radcliffe accurately and fully - "higher levels of taxation suggest higher levels of satisfaction with lifeĒ - then he is as ignorant and stupid as you are.

High taxation in itself is poison. If you look at history, for the last 60 or 2000 years, high taxation without consent has invariably led to revolt. And consent is by individuals forming a polity.
Individuals will consent only if they consent to the way the tax is spent.  And they will do this if they trust each other and their elected government. And trust comes from cohesion and solidarity.
Multiculti diversity destroys that solidarity. Governments driven by ideology not endorsed by the electorate also destroy trust and solidarity.

It would be an interesting project to investigate the nationality of account holders in the Bahamas, Caymans, and other tax heavens. I would hazard a guess to say that people from unfairly high taxing countries are the bulk. 

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Re: We Need A Increase In The Minimum Wage
Reply #31 - May 26th, 2024 at 6:29pm
 
Frank wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:48pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 5:36pm:
Frank wrote on May 25th, 2024 at 9:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on May 20th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 5:53pm:
Frank wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 2:42pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18th, 2024 at 1:58pm:
We need a massive crackdown on costs of living and working for the majority....



Sack Bowen, ditch the net zero lunacy, cut immigration by trolley pushers, uber drivers and food delivery "students", cut government spending and income tax for workers,† scrap all exemptions from the GST.

For starters.


well said frank† Smiley


Nah, you are all low tax, personal responsibility losers.

The happiest peple in† the world live under high-tax regimes.

https://www.financialexpress.com/policy/economy-those-who-pay-higher-tax-are-hap...

World Happiness Report 2018: Those who pay higher tax are happier! Donít believe us, hereís the proof

Eminent social-scientist Benjamin Radcliff has drawn a parallel between happiness and tax rates, saying that ďhigher levels of taxation suggest higher levels of satisfaction with lifeĒ, and hence more happiness. And there are other social scientists too who contend the same.16 Mar 2018

Meanwhile, heterodox economists are offering a zero tax† (which you crave for),† zero interest rate, zero inflation, full employment economy, but you need to do your own research on that topic.

That is as stupid as you are, parrot.


Er...in a choice beteween Rafcliffe and you...no contest.

And a choice between orthodox Neoclassical/Friedmanite economists,† and heterodox economists who know poverty is a political choice - again no contest.

If you have quoted radcliffe accurately and fully - "higher levels of taxation suggest higher levels of satisfaction with lifeĒ - then he is as ignorant and stupid as you are.


"Ignorant and stupid, even though he is a tertiary-level researcher examing all the relevant statistics?

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High taxation in itself is poison. If you look at history, for the last 60 or 2000 years, high taxation without consent has invariably led to revolt. And consent is by individuals forming a polity.
Individuals will consent only if they consent to the way the tax is spent.† And they will do this if they trust each other and their elected government. And trust comes from cohesion and solidarity.


Correct: and Radcliffe examined  tax levels and happiness in the consenting Skandy countries who didn't folow Thatcher's disastrous low-tax ideology.

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Multiculti diversity destroys that solidarity. Governments driven by ideology not endorsed by the electorate also destroy trust and solidarity.[/quotte]

The Skandy countries were highly homogeneous before the refugees crises of the last 2-3 decades. 

[quote]It would be an interesting project to investigate the nationality of account holders in the Bahamas, Caymans, and other tax heavens. I would hazard a guess to say that people from unfairly high taxing countries are the bulk.†


No;  highly-paid people in poor countries as well as rich countries are all driven by the same self-interest.
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Reply #32 - May 26th, 2024 at 6:40pm
 
Is $1,000 a week enough?
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Reply #33 - May 29th, 2024 at 5:21pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 6:40pm:
Is $1,000 a week enough?


Good question.

Some people are calling for an upper limit.

...and Musk is facing  some pushback from Tesla shareholders re Musk asking for $45 billion in "compensation"  this year   (the largest on record for any CEO).
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Reply #34 - May 29th, 2024 at 6:39pm
 
Abolish the minimum wage. Stop large scale immigration. We don't need hordes of uber drivers, petrol station attendants, baristas.† Phase out the age pension completely over 30 years.

Rethink population and family policy.  Pay for your children's job instead importing some bare-parsed Nepalese skinny.

The welfare state idea of the 19th century is not applicable anymore.

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Reply #35 - May 29th, 2024 at 6:56pm
 
Frank wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 6:39pm:
Abolish the minimum wage. Stop large scale immigration. We don't need hordes of uber drivers, petrol station attendants, baristas.† Phase out the age pension completely over 30 years.

Rethink population and family policy.† Pay for your children's job instead importing some bare-parsed Nepalese skinny.

The welfare state idea of the 19th century is not applicable anymore.



That's why Frank is proposing regressing back to the 17th century.

In that economic environment Frank would have been a foot servant.
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Reply #36 - May 29th, 2024 at 6:59pm
 
Did someone say abolish the minimum wage?.† The minimum wage is there for a reason. No the minimum wage should not be abolished.† †Sad
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Reply #37 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:14pm
 
The minimum wage prices people out of employment.


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Reply #38 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:16pm
 
Some employers will not be happy until they get people to work for nothing.† †Sad
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Reply #39 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:25pm
 
whiteknight wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:16pm:
Some employers will not be happy until they get people to work for nothing.† †Sad

If they can get people to work for nothing - why not? I would work for nothing, thousands of volunteers do.

You are just a calculating, money-grubbing greedy mercantile bozo, all about money. Gimme, gimme, gimme.
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Reply #40 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:33pm
 
The minimum wage is nothing more than what a employer has to pay a worker.† Now if you want to pay more than that, then yes please by all means pay more than the minimum wage.† †Smiley
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Reply #41 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:41pm
 
If you were employing useless shites who must be paid a minimum wage no matter how useless they are - would you take them on?

No.

Take it from there.


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Reply #42 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:45pm
 
No one should have to work below the minimum wage.† †Sad† ††
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Reply #43 - May 29th, 2024 at 8:51pm
 
Cheesywhiteknight wrote on May 29th, 2024 at 8:45pm:
No one should have to work below the minimum wage.† †Sad† ††

Cheesy Wink Cheesy

What's  the .... minimum... They should work for??



What IS the minimum people should work for if nobody should work for a minimum???? 


How OLD are you? 300?  Cheesy Cheesy Grin You are a ridiculous old duffer.

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Reply #44 - May 29th, 2024 at 9:28pm
 
$23.23 per hour† †Huh
What is the minimum wage in Australia? As of 1 July 2023, the minimum wage is $23.23 per hour, or $882.80 per 38-hour week. This is an 8.6% increase in the national minimum wage. This increase applied from the first full pay period starting on or after 1 July 2023.
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