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Lehrmann Case Revs Up Women Into Violence. (Read 5607 times)
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Reply #150 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:01pm
 
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You wanted him to carry her


Was that his only other option crappler? You said you worked as a boucer,  did you have to carry the drunk girls home?

You keep making excuses for rapists.
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Reply #151 - May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:01pm:
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Was that his only other option crappler? You said you worked as a boucer,  did you have to carry the drunk girls home?

You keep making excuses for rapists.


No.  And no... no rape has been proven.
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Reply #152 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:04am
 
Now then, poppets - let's look at this one in five women who suffer sexual violence.... starting with the worst state...

The NT ..... 30.8% of the population there, all one demographic, are responsible for 93% of the women deaths since 2000 ... it is a safe bet that all other forms of violence are in the same percentage... so yer Blecks in their communities (not my words - the Coroner's) are responsible for 93% ....so then we move to the next most likely demographic for sexual violence against women - the lunatic, wild-eyed, leso community (not all of them), which operates around domination and abuse... (go get pissed on in the shower) ....   remove the criminally minded - the Measters and Indios who feel sex is a right etc and abuse and rape (in some cases) are perfectly in order and the relatively few Wharte boys who engage in this kind of thing .....  ... and it's becoming fair to say that there are only a very few of such cases that are down to the group having the finger pointed at them.... majority white men.  Then there are repeat offenders.

If we extrapolate those figures on Blecks to the Civilised Tribes States- civilised because only 4% of them are Bleck Aussies though there are a high number of imports among offenders - say we divide that 93% by 7.5 (roughly 30.8% divided by 4%)- and for that tiny minority we still have a 13-odd% perpetration rate of sexual violence in that 'community', along with a similar rate of women deaths in those communities/social groups.

So let us look at the current approach to this and all other 'social issues' - I call it the Helicopter Approach  ... to achieve this you assemble a crowd of the group you WISH to target and create into perpetrators of your pet idea; crowd them into a stadium; bring in a chopper that hovers at 200 feet above them, and then throw the contents of an opened can of paint out of each side door into the raging slipstream ...... all those who are struck by paint are guilty of stealing paint..... easy as pie.  The ones who escape being hit?  Easy as pie - they are just cunning enough to not be splashed and rounded up, and thus are a greater danger.

On the other hand, people like my excellent self - who some love to abuse and name-call since they have nothing else to offer - asks - "Where are your facts and hard figures by demographic?  How do you ever expect to get to the roots(sic) of sexual violence unless you clearly identify your genuine perpetrators?".

Then - horror of horrors - we have to sort out and resolve all the false and wrongful complaints - the Lehrmann 'convictions' by accusation without proof - so - at the end of the day and as usual - there are precious few incidents left for the overwhelming majority.... but you must never let that deter you from attacking them all - especially when there are benefits in it like preference for sweet jobs, social standing, even rewards for 'coming forward bravely',  the opportunity for world domination if you are a lunatic feminist, and the clear opportunity to gain control over society in the West and reap the benefits you imagine will follow - even though the majority will never see those benefits.

All Madness...

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Reply #153 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
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so why pretend that was the only other option?

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.
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Reply #154 - May 27th, 2024 at 8:59am
 
It's the reason for having judges and juries. Otherwise, what? Search [Lehrmann guilty rape] and google tells you? Judge Google?
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Reply #155 - May 27th, 2024 at 12:33pm
 
Wilkinson's costs are an eye watering $M1.8.
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Reply #156 - May 27th, 2024 at 12:45pm
 
Nothing like being in the privileged pay set to have that kind of money lying around - we all know that money will buy you a decision.... and someone of 'standing' in the community has a far better chance than a bloke with piggy eyes... Toowoomba you say?  He's got no hope...
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Reply #157 - May 27th, 2024 at 12:48pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 8:25am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
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so why pretend that was the only other option?


Your problem is that unless you are there watching him rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was raped. That's not typically how these things work. You are allowed to use your brain.



Struck through stupid comment - always said anything could have happened but we have no way of knowing.  Clearly your English is not up to the job.

Your problem is that unless you are there watching him not rape her, nothing will satisfy you that she was not raped. That's typically how these things work. You are not allowed to use your brain, but must rely on proven facts, of which there are none, and the presumption of innocence must be in play.

So - I ask YOU again - when is your time machine going to put you there at the time and place to actually see?  Until you answer that there is no point to your desperate trying to find guilt where there is no legal guilt.
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Reply #158 - May 27th, 2024 at 12:56pm
 
Once again ; 'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'

Sometimes a call has to be made and most sexual cases are like this one. It comes down to 49:51 and that's for liability for defamation, not criminal rape.
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Reply #159 - May 27th, 2024 at 1:07pm
 
chimera wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:56pm:
Once again ; 'The court’s judgment clarified the distinction between criminal and civil liabilities, emphasising that while the criminal case remained inconclusive, the civil proceedings necessitated a lesser degree of certainty.'

Sometimes a call has to be made and most sexual cases are like this one. It comes down to 49:51 and that's for liability for defamation, not criminal rape.


Argh, aye - "lesser degree of certainty" - so - how far down the road of Lesser do you wish to proceed? 

Good to see you are onside with this idiotic 'judge' and his comment on 'rape'.  He has ruined a man's life with his idiotic statement, while at the same time pointing the finger at ALL other participants in this specific trial as being rather loose with the truth.

A complete idiot on the bench.... the principal on the other side - Witness B - is currently being dismantled and shown to be a skillful crook, having 'disappeared' her fat payout into a 'trust fund' where when she goes down over HER defamation, it cannot be touched.

Where is Andrei Hicks to set us all right on the virtues of 'trusts' again???  If they're so good why doesn't everyone have one?  Oh - sorry - they are only reserved for the 'betters' with more money and more to hide - an excellent reason to abolish them or make their owners directly responsible for them, thus allowing payment from them when those owners stuff up.

What goes around, comes around..... Andrei?  Over to you .....
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Reply #160 - May 27th, 2024 at 1:13pm
 
I don't make the laws, there's a little green man under parliament house who does that, getting on in years a bit. Lehrmann asked for a judicial opinion without first checking with Grappler.
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Reply #161 - May 27th, 2024 at 2:41pm
 
Jesus Christ - listen to this from a 'learned' judge on the bench:-

"Justice Lee found Lehrmann had defended the criminal charge of rape "on a false basis, lied to police and then allowed that lie to go uncorrected before the jury".

According to Lee he wasn't permitted to plead Not Guilty to the original criminal charge ..... clearly since he was guilty (???) he must have lied to police but Witness B didn't ... and then he allowed the matter to be dropped by the relevant court without confessing that they were wrong to do so since it allowed him to get off scot free since he was guilty!!!  I suppose he should have demanded the case be put back before the court and he would sweetly change his plea to guilty... Complainant B didn't drop the case.... why should he be pilloried for not "correcting ANYTHING before the non-existent jury"?  If he is INNOCENT there was nothing to correct and the Crown dropped the case, and rightly so.

HOW did this guy get to be a judge?  There are 'civil' standards and there are Civil Standards - and this fits the bill of none of them.  If our 'judicial' system were not so costly for the ordinary person, surely Complainant B would win on appeal.... but then - unlike Ten and Wilkinson - he doesn't have millions to waste on such things... just a poor boy..... ruining his life is nothing...............................

Now then - when is Lee going to be impeached?  Circular 'logic' doesn't cut it, Lee... recuse yourself from the bench - permanently.

If that last doesn't show you one thing that is dreadfully wrong with our 'judicial system' nothing will.

Finest use of the pussy here to gain unwarranted and unearned advantage... incredible in this day and age of 'equality' and 'equal treatment'  .... truly we have gone back to the Dark Ages where a person accused is burnt at the stake or beheaded following a mock trial... or no trial at all....

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Reply #162 - May 27th, 2024 at 2:49pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 12:45pm:
Nothing like being in the privileged pay set to have that kind of money lying around - we all know that money will buy you a decision.... and someone of 'standing' in the community has a far better chance than a bloke with piggy eyes... Toowoomba you say?  He's got no hope...


I think he will be acquitted of the Toowoomba charge.

The events still do establish what a loser low life he is, and where he socialises and with whom.
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Reply #163 - May 27th, 2024 at 3:37pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 1:07pm:
"lesser degree of certainty" - so - how far down the road of Lesser do you wish to proceed? 

Then you can't grasp the two levels of certainty. But you are qualified to be a Federal Court judge. And very loudly.
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Reply #164 - May 27th, 2024 at 3:54pm
 
chimera wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 3:37pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27th, 2024 at 1:07pm:
"lesser degree of certainty" - so - how far down the road of Lesser do you wish to proceed? 

Then you can't grasp the two levels of certainty. But you are qualified to be a Federal Court judge. And very loudly.
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Well - you see - there's a 'lesser degree of certainty' and there is NO certainty at all..... in this case the sole evidence was a single intoxicated statement made long after the event, not reported to authorities, no corroborating evidence, nothing whatsoever to support the simple assertion - and that is NO certainty at all in any court, civil or otherwise.

The only certainty in that 'court' was the biased and politically motivated 'opinion' of the 'judge'.

Would you equally apply the same standard to Witness B if she were charged with making a false complaint and public mischief etc?  You'd be in the baying and mindless crowd screeching from the rooftops about such vile treatment - the barbarians at the gates of the courts intimidating judges and all others with their screaming and threats of action and adverse media nonsense - but you'd hang Bruce on the same standard and see his life ruined, as you have done.

I, of course, would be saying the same thing - without substantial corroborating evidence and at least some action taken in a timely fashion, there is ZERO solid and reliable evidence by any standard to convict the girl.  That is the clear difference between you lot of witch hunters and myself.... in any crisis I remain calm and detached - you turn hysterical... start crying for blood but only one way.

Just what kind of man are you?

A. - a Modern New Fascist.
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