thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:


But your Ai said there was no homelessness in Shanghai.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:


So they all have homelessness. OK, thanks for that.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:



That is really fallacious. If you don't see homelessness, it doesn't mean there is no homelessness.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:


And once again there are camps that people don't want to use. Including the wite long grassers.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:


Ah yes, the CCP is the cop doing the investigation, the judge, jury and sometimes executioner,

thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:



"Do you mean the 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests or one of the mainland incidents (e.g., the nationwide COVID-era “White Paper” anti-lockdown protests in Nov 2022, labor/homebuyer demonstrations since 2023)? I’ll summarize the most significant violent or large-scale unrest in China within the last five years—confirm which you want, or I’ll proceed to summarize all three."




thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:


Ah, so camps are increasing for other reasons, thanks for that.

"Yes — credible reporting and research indicate that large-scale "reeducation" (vocational training) camps in Xinjiang expanded sharply starting around 2017 and that many remain operational or have been converted into long-term detention, surveillance, or "vocational" programs; estimates of detainee numbers vary widely (hundreds of thousands to over a million at peak). Sources document mass detention of Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities, systematic political indoctrination, restrictions on religious and cultural practices, and extensive surveillance and policing in the region. "

thegreatdivide wrote on May 26^th, 2026 at 1:48pm:


Especially when you control the whole game.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 31^st, 2026 at 12:49pm:


You said that there was no homelessness in Shanghai, as you hadn't seen any.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 24^th, 2026 at 5:15pm:


backtracking already?

thegreatdivide wrote on May 31^st, 2026 at 12:49pm:




You are the one doesn't see the irony.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 31^st, 2026 at 12:49pm:



Has the peak passed or is it still at the peak? The estimates vary widely - the peak of those detainee numbers was over one million. That is not necessarily the same as the numbers have peaked, just that was the top listed.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 31^st, 2026 at 12:49pm:


And they do it by the iron hand in the uiron glove.

I'm currently in chengdu.
Amazing people.
Ambitious, abuzz, no one bludging,  I have seen only a few homeless, way less then Brisbane.

The Chinese Aldi type supermarket is awesome.

A bottle of Pepsi Max 80c.
Steak $14 a kilo.
Sushi 6 big pieces  $2.
Even dairy which I expected to be much dearer is equivalent.
Streets flow freely , often 10 lanes, no potholes, 80 % EV.
Quiet .
Electric scooters , new $500 , beautiful scooter paths.
Free push bikes.
Hotel,  4.5 stars , $60 a night. Including amazing breakfast.
Uber ( didi) $5 for a 25 km trip.
Street food, eat like a king for under $10.

Zero crime and I mean zero.

No one but united patriotic Chinese and tourists.

Trees everywhere, lining every street. Smog much less then last time.

Rednote( equivalent of you tube) full of clips about healthy eating. Learning English.learning maths, learning gardening, learning learning learning.

Curious positive patriotic dutiful proud amazing people.
Well dressed, great manners.

Not one " taker" in the whole country.

Trains unbelievable.
Airport unbelievable.

China are going to wipe the floor with the fat lazy entitled victim celebrating Australian dickheafs.

Personally I can't wait 

Hi carl .

Covid had a mortality of under .5%

Elon , Tristan harris, Sam altman , the big 3 western thinkers on AI think it could end humanity within a decade and put the risk at 30 %

The UN nuclear committee put the risk of nuclear war in the next decade at 10 to 20 %

Why would you worry about covid or especially ebola unless you had severe hypochondria.

You need to learn risk assessment

Carl D wrote on Jun 5^th, 2026 at 12:14pm:



Surprisingly not only does Facebook YouTube Google work ( I was told it wouldn't) but you can post on an Australian political forum.

Surveillance is not that bad.
They take a facial recognition imprint when you arrive.
Someone in the hotel said don't worry if your wife gets lost.
We ring up  the authorities and the cameras will tell us exactly where she is.

Surveillance sucks if you are a home invading gang member. If you are a good bloke it works for you.
Like I said. Zero crime

aquascoot wrote on Jun 4^th, 2026 at 2:25pm:


Good post.

Poor lee should get out more.....

Unfortunately,  the debate over money among China's top economists - namely, can the sovereign central currency-issuing govt create money without taxing or borrowing (see MMT), while avoiding inflation,  is as lively as it is in the West. 

So the CCP is reticent to utilize the socalled "overcapacity" of the Chinese economy (socalled by Western economists whose own nations cant compete with China in global trade)  for the benefit of low income groups,  to absorb that "overcapacity"; the Treasury could fund (for free) subsidization of quality consumption by low income groups to ensure maximum sustainable prosperity ("ommon prosperity" regardless of Trump's tariff wars - at least until the economy's full productive capacity has been reached (when subsidization of consumption by low income groups would no longer be necessary).

Meanwhile some brave souls in the West are trying to educate the public: 

https://ellenbrown.com/2026/06/01/the-ai-revolution-where-capitalism-meets-socia...

The AI Revolution: Where Capitalism Meets Socialism: The Abundance Paradigm, Part 2

Allowing much more choice for elected governments in the West to achieve essentials for all.

lee wrote on Jun 5^th, 2026 at 2:26pm:


Crippled Conservative-brain lee struggling with definitions; state-supported housing for the homeless is the cure, missing in Oz.   

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That's obvious, read aquascoot's report; meanwhile you turn a blind eye to the homeless we CAN all see..


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The response of a blind crippled-brain "democracy" ideologue who doesn't like facing the reality that government in "democracy" is often determined by a majority as slender as 50% +1 of self-interested electors in  adversarial-party democracies...if the votes can even be tallied without dispute....

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Doubling down on dissidents does not cause less dissidence. [/quote]

Your error: doubling down on HK separatist "dissidents" has ended the social chaos in HK
which erupted when "democracy" ideologues refused to abide by the constitution of the government of China.


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You are condemning China for re-educating separatist terrorists; so you either support the former soclal chaos in Xinjiang, or bibi's methods, ie, bomb them to hell as in Gaza.   

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See above: your blind, ideologically-incapacitated brain renders you incapable of sensible anaylsis.

eg Should China bomb the separatist terrorists in Xinjiang - not to mention the blind "demopcracy"  dissidents in HK,  or reeducate them - or rollover and watch every dissident group destroy the nation's sovereignty?   

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Don't like social chaos "only"?

But you would fight to bring down the One Party meritocracy in China....despite the economic and social advances in China.

By inference you prefer stumbling over the homeless in Oz cities, which - as confirmed by aquascoot - are out of sight and housed in state suported institutions in China.