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"Racism" is a social construct without evidence
Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm
 
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:31pm
 
The whole of the human world is socially constructed, so to say that race is socially constructed says not much.

Language, history, science, biology, knowledge itself, manners, literature, diet, and the rest of it - all socially constructed. Ethnicity is socially onstructed and carries most of the cultural annotations of race.

While there is a clear hierarchy of ethnicities/cultures, there is also assimilation into a culture/ethncity, easier into some than others. So while you cannot change yourself from white to black, you can become a black professor of Asian or English literature and history, say.

You inherit both your racial characteristics and your ethnic/cultural characteristics. You can change the latter but not the former.

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Reply #2 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm
 
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.
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Reply #3 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 4:27pm
 
Soren, unexpectantly you are only half accepting the message I am delivering.  Hardly surprising, really because to fully accept it would demolish your heart's belief in "Race" as being inherently different.  To you, if a person is Black/Asian/Amerindian, Indian, anything other than White, European, they are automatically inferior.  Such foolishness, all based on a socially constructed falsehood that different "races" are well, different.  If your son brought home an Indigenous Australian you'd be asking why he bothered.  You wouldn't appreciate her for herself, you'd be asking questions about her skin colour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 6:58pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.

I take ethnicity to be cultural. An ethic German, Check, Pole, Dane are racially indistinguishable. Culturally, historically etc they are quite different. They can assimilate into each other's cultures within a lifetime.

A Nigerian born in any of these countries may be very assimilated but as a black African he will be aware that he is not German, Dane, Pole etc even if he speaks only German, Danish etc.

There is a lot more complexity to this than DNA or biology.

One reason, and not the only one, is that like every other social construct, ethnicities, cultures ARE hierarchical. Not all cultures are equal, not all cultural comparisons are neutral or non-hierarchical.  Social construct means hierarchy. So if ethnicity, culture, race, knowledge, art etc, etc are social constructs then they are hierarchical.
Discerning means telling the difference. Telling the difference means rank order.







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Reply #5 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.

I take ethnicity to be cultural. An ethic German, Check, Pole, Dane are racially indistinguishable. Culturally, historically etc they are quite different. They can assimilate into each other's cultures within a lifetime.

A Nigerian born in any of these countries may be very assimilated but as a black African he will be aware that he is not German, Dane, Pole etc even if he speaks only German, Danish etc.

There is a lot more complexity to this than DNA or biology.

One reason, and not the only one, is that like every other social construct, ethnicities, cultures ARE hierarchical. Not all cultures are equal, not all cultural comparisons are neutral or non-hierarchical.  Social construct means hierarchy. So if ethnicity, culture, race, knowledge, art etc, etc are social constructs then they are hierarchical.
Discerning means telling the difference. Telling the difference means rank order.

As soon as foreign people, who emigrated from their homeland after their late teens, speak they will be identified as foreigners.

Accents are evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently physiologically.

People who speak a second language will tell you that they cannot think a certain way unless they're thinking in their first language.

This is evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently psychologically.

Immigrants can assimilate to a large degree, but rarely if ever, completely.

And, by the way, the ethnic and cultural German may think he's assimilated into Czech society but, as sure as sh!t ain't sugar, the Czech knows what a German is.
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Reply #6 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:28pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:14pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.

I take ethnicity to be cultural. An ethic German, Check, Pole, Dane are racially indistinguishable. Culturally, historically etc they are quite different. They can assimilate into each other's cultures within a lifetime.

A Nigerian born in any of these countries may be very assimilated but as a black African he will be aware that he is not German, Dane, Pole etc even if he speaks only German, Danish etc.

There is a lot more complexity to this than DNA or biology.

One reason, and not the only one, is that like every other social construct, ethnicities, cultures ARE hierarchical. Not all cultures are equal, not all cultural comparisons are neutral or non-hierarchical.  Social construct means hierarchy. So if ethnicity, culture, race, knowledge, art etc, etc are social constructs then they are hierarchical.
Discerning means telling the difference. Telling the difference means rank order.

As soon as foreign people, who emigrated from their homeland after their late teens, speak they will be identified as foreigners.

Accents are evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently physiologically.

People who speak a second language will tell you that they cannot think a certain way unless they're thinking in their first language.

This is evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently psychologically.

Immigrants can assimilate to a large degree, but rarely if ever, completely.

And, by the way, the ethnic and cultural German may think he's assimilated into Czech society but, as sure as sh!t ain't sugar, the Czech knows what a German is.


That's correct ... and those differences will determine their personality and character in the new country



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Reply #7 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:51pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:14pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.

I take ethnicity to be cultural. An ethic German, Check, Pole, Dane are racially indistinguishable. Culturally, historically etc they are quite different. They can assimilate into each other's cultures within a lifetime.

A Nigerian born in any of these countries may be very assimilated but as a black African he will be aware that he is not German, Dane, Pole etc even if he speaks only German, Danish etc.

There is a lot more complexity to this than DNA or biology.

One reason, and not the only one, is that like every other social construct, ethnicities, cultures ARE hierarchical. Not all cultures are equal, not all cultural comparisons are neutral or non-hierarchical.  Social construct means hierarchy. So if ethnicity, culture, race, knowledge, art etc, etc are social constructs then they are hierarchical.
Discerning means telling the difference. Telling the difference means rank order.

As soon as foreign people, who emigrated from their homeland after their late teens, speak they will be identified as foreigners.

Accents are evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently physiologically.

People who speak a second language will tell you that they cannot think a certain way unless they're thinking in their first language.

This is evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently psychologically.

Immigrants can assimilate to a large degree, but rarely if ever, completely.

And, by the way, the ethnic and cultural German may think he's assimilated into Czech society but, as sure as sh!t ain't sugar, the Czech knows what a German is.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

Poles and Germans, Danes and Swedes, Germans and Dutch have lived side by side for centuries. They are acutely aware of their differences by they also have centuries of coexistence.

Germans and Turks, Somalis and Danes, Swedes and Iraqis do not.

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Reply #8 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:05pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:14pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.

I take ethnicity to be cultural. An ethic German, Check, Pole, Dane are racially indistinguishable. Culturally, historically etc they are quite different. They can assimilate into each other's cultures within a lifetime.

A Nigerian born in any of these countries may be very assimilated but as a black African he will be aware that he is not German, Dane, Pole etc even if he speaks only German, Danish etc.

There is a lot more complexity to this than DNA or biology.

One reason, and not the only one, is that like every other social construct, ethnicities, cultures ARE hierarchical. Not all cultures are equal, not all cultural comparisons are neutral or non-hierarchical.  Social construct means hierarchy. So if ethnicity, culture, race, knowledge, art etc, etc are social constructs then they are hierarchical.
Discerning means telling the difference. Telling the difference means rank order.

As soon as foreign people, who emigrated from their homeland after their late teens, speak they will be identified as foreigners.

Accents are evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently physiologically.

People who speak a second language will tell you that they cannot think a certain way unless they're thinking in their first language.

This is evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently psychologically.

Immigrants can assimilate to a large degree, but rarely if ever, completely.

And, by the way, the ethnic and cultural German may think he's assimilated into Czech society but, as sure as sh!t ain't sugar, the Czech knows what a German is.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

Poles and Germans, Danes and Swedes, Germans and Dutch have lived side by side for centuries. They are acutely aware of their differences by they also have centuries of coexistence.

Germans and Turks, Somalis and Danes, Swedes and Iraqis do not.


The Ottoman Turks and Imperial Germany had close ties since the 19th century and were allies in WW1, Turkey maintained friendly ties and a trade relationship with Nazi Germany in WW2.

Germany is Turkey's closest ally in Europe.
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Reply #9 - Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:07pm
 
I notice, Soren that you seem to have finally accepted there are no major Genetic differences between the various "races".  Good.  Now you are concentrating on Ethic and Cultural differences.  However those differences are not Genetic.  They are social constructs.  As social constructs they can be changed by individuals if they so wish.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:05pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 7:14pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:59pm:
You inherit both your ethnic characteristics and your cultural characteristics. You can change the latter to a large degree but not the former.

I take ethnicity to be cultural. An ethic German, Check, Pole, Dane are racially indistinguishable. Culturally, historically etc they are quite different. They can assimilate into each other's cultures within a lifetime.

A Nigerian born in any of these countries may be very assimilated but as a black African he will be aware that he is not German, Dane, Pole etc even if he speaks only German, Danish etc.

There is a lot more complexity to this than DNA or biology.

One reason, and not the only one, is that like every other social construct, ethnicities, cultures ARE hierarchical. Not all cultures are equal, not all cultural comparisons are neutral or non-hierarchical.  Social construct means hierarchy. So if ethnicity, culture, race, knowledge, art etc, etc are social constructs then they are hierarchical.
Discerning means telling the difference. Telling the difference means rank order.

As soon as foreign people, who emigrated from their homeland after their late teens, speak they will be identified as foreigners.

Accents are evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently physiologically.

People who speak a second language will tell you that they cannot think a certain way unless they're thinking in their first language.

This is evidence that your cultural milieu alters you permanently psychologically.

Immigrants can assimilate to a large degree, but rarely if ever, completely.

And, by the way, the ethnic and cultural German may think he's assimilated into Czech society but, as sure as sh!t ain't sugar, the Czech knows what a German is.

Up to a point, Lord Copper.

Poles and Germans, Danes and Swedes, Germans and Dutch have lived side by side for centuries. They are acutely aware of their differences by they also have centuries of coexistence.

Germans and Turks, Somalis and Danes, Swedes and Iraqis do not.


The Ottoman Turks and Imperial Germany had close ties since the 19th century and were allies in WW1, Turkey maintained friendly ties and a trade relationship with Nazi Germany in WW2.

Germany is Turkey's closest ally in Europe.



It doesn't mean they couldn't tell each other apart. Trade relatioethnic or cultural differences disappear.


Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.


What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?


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Reply #11 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:50am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 9:07pm:
I notice, Soren that you seem to have finally accepted there are no major Genetic differences between the various "races".  Good.  Now you are concentrating on Ethic and Cultural differences.  However those differences are not Genetic.  They are social constructs.  As social constructs they can be changed by individuals if they so wish.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:58am
 
hey brian  did you go crying to freediver to get my signature with your embarrassing self-own quotation removed?


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Reply #13 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:14am
 
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.

What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?

The black/white 'race' thing is an Americanism - promoted globally by easily the dumbest f~cks in the Anglosphere.

Case in point: Hispanics being characterised as 'white'.

No European characterises each other as white in Europe when referring to themselves, any more than Africans do about themselves in Africa - something that comes as a genuine shock to African-Americans who emigrate there.

Australian culture is particularly susceptible to Americanisms, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise when our dumb f~cks imitate American dumb f~cks.

As for Kerr, insofar as her Indian heritage influences her, she is very much expressing the Indian obsession with skin colour.
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Reply #14 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:19am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.

What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?

The black/white 'race' thing is an Americanism - promoted globally by easily the dumbest f~cks in the Anglosphere.

Case in point: Hispanics being characterised as 'white'.

No European characterises each other as white in Europe when referring to themselves, any more than Africans do about themselves in Africa - something that comes as a genuine shock to African-Americans who emigrate there.

Australian culture is particularly susceptible to Americanisms, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise when our dumb f~cks imitate American dumb f~cks.


hispanics arent characterised as white, 'hispanic' is a census category in the u.s that pertains specifically to linguistic/cultural origin; you can nominate other ethnic categories in addition to 'hispanic', hence 'non-white hispanic %' and 'white hispanic %'. hispanics can be white or any other racial category depending on their nomination

https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/ethnicity/#:~:text...

yet another post where you don't know what you're talking about but could have spent two seconds googling beforehand instead


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Reply #15 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:45am
 
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:19am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.

What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?

The black/white 'race' thing is an Americanism - promoted globally by easily the dumbest f~cks in the Anglosphere.

Case in point: Hispanics being characterised as 'white'.

No European characterises each other as white in Europe when referring to themselves, any more than Africans do about themselves in Africa - something that comes as a genuine shock to African-Americans who emigrate there.

Australian culture is particularly susceptible to Americanisms, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise when our dumb f~cks imitate American dumb f~cks.


hispanics arent characterised as white, 'hispanic' is a census category in the u.s that pertains specifically to linguistic/cultural origin; you can nominate other ethnic categories in addition to 'hispanic', hence 'non-white hispanic %' and 'white hispanic %'. hispanics can be white or any other racial category depending on their nomination

https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/ethnicity/#:~:text...

yet another post where you don't know what you're talking about but could have spent two seconds googling beforehand instead



As one of our local bitchy dumb f~cks who spends time looking for ways to use the N-word, stop using your fingers to play with your arsehole and try googling why many Hispanics identify themselves as white on the US census.

Look for the definition of 'white' as a socio-economic, political, or vaguely European (and apologies to southern Europeans) or patriotic definition as opposed to it being a 'racial' one.
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Reply #16 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:13am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:45am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:19am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.

What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?

The black/white 'race' thing is an Americanism - promoted globally by easily the dumbest f~cks in the Anglosphere.

Case in point: Hispanics being characterised as 'white'.

No European characterises each other as white in Europe when referring to themselves, any more than Africans do about themselves in Africa - something that comes as a genuine shock to African-Americans who emigrate there.

Australian culture is particularly susceptible to Americanisms, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise when our dumb f~cks imitate American dumb f~cks.


hispanics arent characterised as white, 'hispanic' is a census category in the u.s that pertains specifically to linguistic/cultural origin; you can nominate other ethnic categories in addition to 'hispanic', hence 'non-white hispanic %' and 'white hispanic %'. hispanics can be white or any other racial category depending on their nomination

https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/ethnicity/#:~:text...

yet another post where you don't know what you're talking about but could have spent two seconds googling beforehand instead



As one of our local bitchy dumb f~cks who spends time looking for ways to use the N-word, stop using your fingers to play with your arsehole and try googling why many Hispanics identify themselves as white on the US census.

Look for the definition of 'white' as a socio-economic, political, or vaguely European (and apologies to southern Europeans) or patriotic definition as opposed to it being a 'racial' one.


because many of them are in fact to a great extent ancestrally european you f_cking idiot, which is literally what 'white' conceptually is synonymous with - holy sh1t you absolute f_cking spasticated c_nt.

this is a dude who literally tried to speculate that a few meaningless zingers from the head of state of mongolia were a suggestive precusor for serious international tensions in eurasia

you're like thegreatdivide with a few iq points on top, i honestly find it difficult to distinguish between you and him sometimes you're both so unimaginably generic and retarded

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Reply #17 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:14am
 
Australia was the Galapagos Islands of human racial differences. Aborigines remained as primitive in the 18th century as they were when they arrived from India or Asia in 40,000 bc.
The human development elsewhere on the planes was as astonishing by comparison as the total lack of development by Aborigines - and a few other pockets of similarly primitive prehostoric humans in the Amazon, Borneo, Papaua.
Tasmania is at the 42 latitude South, mirroring Rome and the mediterrenean or northern China, Korea and Japan at 42 degrees North. Forty thousands years ago everyone around the globe was as primitive as each other, with no discernible differences. Aborigines stayed excatly the same while the rest of the world moved on. That is astonishing.

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Reply #18 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:27am
 
as i like to say, they were probably less culturally accomplished than beavers are. if you raise a beaver in an animal hospital - even if it hasn't seen a forest or a running stream in its life, it will pile up objects in the hallways of the hospital in an attempt to construct a dam. beavers literally have more of an industrious spirit and work ethic than aboriginals do

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Reply #19 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:50am
 
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:13am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:45am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:19am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.

What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?

The black/white 'race' thing is an Americanism - promoted globally by easily the dumbest f~cks in the Anglosphere.

Case in point: Hispanics being characterised as 'white'.

No European characterises each other as white in Europe when referring to themselves, any more than Africans do about themselves in Africa - something that comes as a genuine shock to African-Americans who emigrate there.

Australian culture is particularly susceptible to Americanisms, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise when our dumb f~cks imitate American dumb f~cks.


hispanics arent characterised as white, 'hispanic' is a census category in the u.s that pertains specifically to linguistic/cultural origin; you can nominate other ethnic categories in addition to 'hispanic', hence 'non-white hispanic %' and 'white hispanic %'. hispanics can be white or any other racial category depending on their nomination

https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/ethnicity/#:~:text...

yet another post where you don't know what you're talking about but could have spent two seconds googling beforehand instead



As one of our local bitchy dumb f~cks who spends time looking for ways to use the N-word, stop using your fingers to play with your arsehole and try googling why many Hispanics identify themselves as white on the US census.

Look for the definition of 'white' as a socio-economic, political, or vaguely European (and apologies to southern Europeans) or patriotic definition as opposed to it being a 'racial' one.


because many of them are in fact to a great extent ancestrally european you f_cking idiot, which is literally what 'white' conceptually is synonymous with - holy sh1t you absolute f_cking spasticated c_nt.

this is a dude who literally tried to speculate that a few meaningless zingers from the head of state of mongolia were a suggestive precusor for serious international tensions in eurasia

you're like thegreatdivide with a few iq points on top, i honestly find it difficult to distinguish between you and him sometimes you're both so unimaginably generic and retarded


Take your fingers out of your arsehole (you'll have to hope it's not a tumour) and use them to google.

Usually, Hispanics who identify as 'white' are not light-skinned and/or fair-haired.

'White' in the US is a term that is used to indicate socio-economic status, social privilege, political alignment, and/or patriotism.

Where it is used to indicate 'race', it is used in a way no European would use it.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:50am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:13am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:45am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:19am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:14am:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:49am:
Anyway, I wonder what Sam Kerr means when she said to the cop, 'Stupid white cop".  A white person would never say that to another. She obviously used is as a racial epithet.
What is the objectionable word out of those three? It is not 'cop' (she says she didn't call him bastard). It must be either stupid or white or both.

What if someone said 'it was a stupid half-Indian thing for her to say to a white person".
Could she or anyone else object to such a formulation?

The black/white 'race' thing is an Americanism - promoted globally by easily the dumbest f~cks in the Anglosphere.

Case in point: Hispanics being characterised as 'white'.

No European characterises each other as white in Europe when referring to themselves, any more than Africans do about themselves in Africa - something that comes as a genuine shock to African-Americans who emigrate there.

Australian culture is particularly susceptible to Americanisms, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise when our dumb f~cks imitate American dumb f~cks.


hispanics arent characterised as white, 'hispanic' is a census category in the u.s that pertains specifically to linguistic/cultural origin; you can nominate other ethnic categories in addition to 'hispanic', hence 'non-white hispanic %' and 'white hispanic %'. hispanics can be white or any other racial category depending on their nomination

https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/ethnicity/#:~:text...

yet another post where you don't know what you're talking about but could have spent two seconds googling beforehand instead



As one of our local bitchy dumb f~cks who spends time looking for ways to use the N-word, stop using your fingers to play with your arsehole and try googling why many Hispanics identify themselves as white on the US census.

Look for the definition of 'white' as a socio-economic, political, or vaguely European (and apologies to southern Europeans) or patriotic definition as opposed to it being a 'racial' one.


because many of them are in fact to a great extent ancestrally european you f_cking idiot, which is literally what 'white' conceptually is synonymous with - holy sh1t you absolute f_cking spasticated c_nt.

this is a dude who literally tried to speculate that a few meaningless zingers from the head of state of mongolia were a suggestive precusor for serious international tensions in eurasia

you're like thegreatdivide with a few iq points on top, i honestly find it difficult to distinguish between you and him sometimes you're both so unimaginably generic and retarded


Take your fingers out of your arsehole (you'll have to hope it's not a tumour) and use them to google.

Usually, Hispanics who identify as 'white' are not light-skinned and/or fair-haired.

'White' in the US is a term that is used to indicate socio-economic status, social privilege, political alignment, and/or patriotism.

Where it is used to indicate 'race', it is used in a way no European would use it.


"white skinned" doesnt necessarily imply ancestry c_nt; look at sam kerr, total street sh_tter phenotype despite being half european genetically

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289685/#:~:text=Patterns%20of%20Ge...

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Patterns of Genetic Ancestry of Self-Reported Latinos Latinos encompass nearly all possible combinations of African, Native American, and European ancestries, with the exception of individuals who have a mix of African and Native American ancestry without European ancestry (see Figures S4A and S1). On average, we estimate that Latinos in the US carry 18.0% Native American ancestry, 65.1% European ancestry, and 6.2% African ancestry. We find the highest levels of estimated Native American ancestry in self-reported Latinos from states in the Southwest, especially those bordering Mexico (Figure 2C). We find the highest mean levels of African ancestry in Latinos living in or born in states in the South, especially Louisiana, the Midwest, and Atlantic (Figure 2A). Further stratification of individuals by their self-reported population affiliation (e.g., “Mexican,” “Puerto Rican,” or “Dominican”) reveals a diversity in genetic ancestry, consistent with previous work studying these populations (see Figure S5 and Table S5).10,20,24,25,68,69 We find that Latinos who, besides reporting as “Hispanic,” also self-report as Mexican or Central American, carry more Native American ancestry than Latinos overall; those also who self-report as black, Puerto Rican, or Dominican have higher levels of African ancestry; and those who additionally self-report as white, Cuban, or South American have on average higher levels of European ancestry.


every single f_cking thing you say is so orthogonal with reality and basic common sense it just begs absolute belief
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JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:58am:
"white skinned" doesnt necessarily imply ancestry

Yes, that's what I said. You're proof that anal sex fiddles with the mind.

'White' in the US is a term that has morphed into a term to indicate socio-economic status, social privilege, political alignment, and/or patriotism.

However, most Americans and those in the Anglosphere still presume it refers to 'race' and in Australia, it is used to refer to nothing but 'race'.

'Hispanic' is a term that means different things to Americans depending on their geolocation.
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I'm not arguing that 'race' exists. I'm not sure others are either.

What does exist is the tenacious longevity of its underlying pseudoscience even in the face of its debunking - akin to religious dogma.
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Most human differences have nothing to do with science. That race is not genetic is largely irrelevant. What does exist and remains relevant is the perception of racial differences EVEN IF there is no DNA difference. It just means that DNA is irrelevant.

You can substitute European for white. What matters is that it was Europeans who discovered, colonised, described and studied the world beyond their own little tribal patches, starting with the Greeks who colonised the entire Mediterreanenan and first drew attention to the noticable difference between themselves and the barbarians they met. They were not talking about DNA but the differences were still obvious and undeniable.

Europeans discovered and civilised - shaped after their own civilisation - the Americas, Australia, Africa and much of Asia, not the other way around. How Europeans developed, within about three thousand years, to such a world dominating significance is interesting and next to the 60,000 years of aboriginal history of totally static itrelevance is astonishing. The rest of the 'barbarians' are somewhere on the scale between these two poles of human development, some closer to Europeans, some to Aborigines.


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MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:32am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I'm not arguing that 'race' exists. I'm not sure others are either.

What does exist is the tenacious longevity of its underlying pseudoscience even in the face of its debunking - akin to religious dogma.


Oh, definitely, definitely. I have been arguing against the likes of Soren for over ten or more years.  He is the worst, he seems to definitely believe in his Racism on the basis of differences between the "Races".  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:57am:
Most human differences have nothing to do with science. That race is not genetic is largely irrelevant. What does exist and remains relevant is the perception of racial differences EVEN IF there is no DNA difference. It just means that DNA is irrelevant.

You can substitute European for white. What matters is that it was Europeans who discovered, colonised, described and studied the world beyond their own little tribal patches, starting with the Greeks who colonised the entire Mediterreanenan and first drew attention to the noticable difference between themselves and the barbarians they met. They were not talking about DNA but the differences were still obvious and undeniable.

Europeans discovered and civilised - shaped after their own civilisation - the Americas, Australia, Africa and much of Asia, not the other way around. How Europeans developed, within about three thousand years, to such a world dominating significance is interesting and next to the 60,000 years of aboriginal history of totally static itrelevance is astonishing. The rest of the 'barbarians' are somewhere on the scale between these two poles of human development, some closer to Europeans, some to Aborigines.



Great African societies

1. The Kingdom of Kush
2. The Land of Punt
3. Carthage
4. The Kingdom of Aksum
5. The Mali Empire
6. The Songhai Empire
7. The Great Zimbabwe

Great Asian societies

1. Mesopotamian Civilisation
2. Persian Civilisation
3. Indus Valley Civilisation
4. Chinese Civilisation

Great pre-European American societies

1. Olmec
2. Teotihuacan
3. Mayas
4. Zapotecs
5. Mixtecs
6. Huastecs
7. Purepecha
8. Toltecs
9. Mexica/Aztecs
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Reply #27 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:20pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:12pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:57am:
Most human differences have nothing to do with science. That race is not genetic is largely irrelevant. What does exist and remains relevant is the perception of racial differences EVEN IF there is no DNA difference. It just means that DNA is irrelevant.

You can substitute European for white. What matters is that it was Europeans who discovered, colonised, described and studied the world beyond their own little tribal patches, starting with the Greeks who colonised the entire Mediterreanenan and first drew attention to the noticable difference between themselves and the barbarians they met. They were not talking about DNA but the differences were still obvious and undeniable.

Europeans discovered and civilised - shaped after their own civilisation - the Americas, Australia, Africa and much of Asia, not the other way around. How Europeans developed, within about three thousand years, to such a world dominating significance is interesting and next to the 60,000 years of aboriginal history of totally static itrelevance is astonishing. The rest of the 'barbarians' are somewhere on the scale between these two poles of human development, some closer to Europeans, some to Aborigines.



Great African societies

1. The Kingdom of Kush
2. The Land of Punt
3. Carthage
4. The Kingdom of Aksum
5. The Mali Empire
6. The Songhai Empire
7. The Great Zimbabwe

Great Asian societies

1. Mesopotamian Civilisation
2. Persian Civilisation
3. Indus Valley Civilisation
4. Chinese Civilisation

Great pre-European American societies

1. Olmec
2. Teotihuacan
3. Mayas
4. Zapotecs
5. Mixtecs
6. Huastecs
7. Purepecha
8. Toltecs
9. Mexica/Aztecs



You only know abut them from Europeans.

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Reply #28 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You must be the only one in the world who thinks races don't exist

The United States Census Bureau mentions "race" three times in this one paragraph ...

"Though many respondents expect to see a Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish category on the race question, this question is asked separately because people of Hispanic origin may be of any race(s). The Census Bureau collects these data in accordance with the 1997 Office of Management and Budget standards on race and ethnicity."


Where does that leave you? .... up the creek without a paddle




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MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 10:15am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:58am:
"white skinned" doesnt necessarily imply ancestry

Yes, that's what I said. You're proof that anal sex fiddles with the mind.

'White' in the US is a term that has morphed into a term to indicate socio-economic status, social privilege, political alignment, and/or patriotism.

However, most Americans and those in the Anglosphere still presume it refers to 'race' and in Australia, it is used to refer to nothing but 'race'.

'Hispanic' is a term that means different things to Americans depending on their geolocation.



I don't think 'white' in America - or anywhere else - refers to socio economic status or political alignment or patriotism.
In any case, even if it did, this would make sense ONLY as a distiction from off-white demographics. But to say that whites are richer, more patriotic and of a particular political alignment is preposterous.

A highly educated, affluent, polite and cosmopolitan black man doesn't become 'white' on account of his civilisational acheievements. When he attains that level of civilisation his race as a black man will not disappear but it will hardly matter, scientifically or otherwise.


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Reply #30 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:22pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You must be the only one in the world who thinks races don't exist

The United States Census Bureau mentions "race" three times in this one paragraph ...

"Though many respondents expect to see a Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish category on the race question, this question is asked separately because people of Hispanic origin may be of any race(s). The Census Bureau collects these data in accordance with the 1997 Office of Management and Budget standards on race and ethnicity."


Where does that leave you? .... up the creek without a paddle


I am not alone, ask any Geneticist, Bias.  You are the one who believes that "Races" are anything other than a social construct.  Run along, back to your rock, you really are a fool.  You don't understand what is being discussed here.  There are no major differences Genetically between the various "races", they can all interbreed.  There is only one "race", the human one.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #31 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:34pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You must be the only one in the world who thinks races don't exist

The United States Census Bureau mentions "race" three times in this one paragraph ...

"Though many respondents expect to see a Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish category on the race question, this question is asked separately because people of Hispanic origin may be of any race(s). The Census Bureau collects these data in accordance with the 1997 Office of Management and Budget standards on race and ethnicity."


Where does that leave you? .... up the creek without a paddle


I am not alone, ask any Geneticist, Bias.  You are the one who believes that "Races" are anything other than a social construct.  Run along, back to your rock, you really are a fool.  You don't understand what is being discussed here.  There are no major differences Genetically between the various "races", they can all interbreed.  There is only one "race", the human one.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Totally irrelevant.

Social constructs are more significant than genetics. Interpersonal relationships are not based on DNA matching. Beauty, attractiveness, ugliness, cowardice, laziness, honourableness, dishonesty, etc, etc have zero genetic markers but are very signfificant and the ability to perceive them is in every human being. Similarly, racial or ethnic traits are readily perceived by everyone and rough and ready conscusions are drawn from them, as from the perception of other socially constructed aspects of the human world.

You are banging on about an irrelevancy, cockwomble. Kinda sums you up.



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Is this man

1 Norwegian

2 Korean

3 Saudi

4 Eskimo

5 Thai

6 Algerian

7 Aborigine


How can you tell??



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Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:38pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 10:15am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:58am:
"white skinned" doesnt necessarily imply ancestry

Yes, that's what I said. You're proof that anal sex fiddles with the mind.

'White' in the US is a term that has morphed into a term to indicate socio-economic status, social privilege, political alignment, and/or patriotism.

However, most Americans and those in the Anglosphere still presume it refers to 'race' and in Australia, it is used to refer to nothing but 'race'.

'Hispanic' is a term that means different things to Americans depending on their geolocation.



I don't think 'white' in America - or anywhere else - refers to socio economic status or political alignment or patriotism.
In any case, even if it did, this would make sense ONLY as a distiction from off-white demographics. But to say that whites are richer, more patriotic and of a particular political alignment is preposterous.

A highly educated, affluent, polite and cosmopolitan black man doesn't become 'white' on account of his civilisational acheievements. When he attains that level of civilisation his race as a black man will not disappear but it will hardly matter, scientifically or otherwise.



Geez, this is a politics forum and you don't think 'white' refers to affluence, privilege, political alignment or patriotism?

Where does the current disparaging epithet 'some old white guy' come from? What could it mean, you wonder.

In terms of patriotism, in the US the southwestern states were once part of Mexico, so owning your Hispanic roots has connotations of not being patriotic to the US.

'His race as a black man', eh! What a tosser you are.
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
Genetically between the various "races", they can all interbreed. 

Not only could our ancestors interbreed, but they did and whenever they got the chance - being driven by the instinct towards genetic diversity.

How else can modern European sapiens possibly carry a percentage of Neanderthal DNA?
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Reply #35 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You must be the only one in the world who thinks races don't exist

The United States Census Bureau mentions "race" three times in this one paragraph ...

"Though many respondents expect to see a Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish category on the race question, this question is asked separately because people of Hispanic origin may be of any race(s). The Census Bureau collects these data in accordance with the 1997 Office of Management and Budget standards on race and ethnicity."


Where does that leave you? .... up the creek without a paddle


I am not alone, ask any Geneticist, Bias.  You are the one who believes that "Races" are anything other than a social construct.  Run along, back to your rock, you really are a fool.  You don't understand what is being discussed here.  There are no major differences Genetically between the various "races", they can all interbreed.  There is only one "race", the human one.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You'd better write a letter to the The United States Census Bureau then, and put them right

BTW You are still carrying on with your depravity and insults tsk tsk ... Do you understand now that you don't practice what you preach?






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Reply #36 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 2:52pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:38pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 10:15am:
JC Denton wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 9:58am:
"white skinned" doesnt necessarily imply ancestry

Yes, that's what I said. You're proof that anal sex fiddles with the mind.

'White' in the US is a term that has morphed into a term to indicate socio-economic status, social privilege, political alignment, and/or patriotism.

However, most Americans and those in the Anglosphere still presume it refers to 'race' and in Australia, it is used to refer to nothing but 'race'.

'Hispanic' is a term that means different things to Americans depending on their geolocation.



I don't think 'white' in America - or anywhere else - refers to socio economic status or political alignment or patriotism.
In any case, even if it did, this would make sense ONLY as a distiction from off-white demographics. But to say that whites are richer, more patriotic and of a particular political alignment is preposterous.

A highly educated, affluent, polite and cosmopolitan black man doesn't become 'white' on account of his civilisational acheievements. When he attains that level of civilisation his race as a black man will not disappear but it will hardly matter, scientifically or otherwise.



Geez, this is a politics forum and you don't think 'white' refers to affluence, privilege, political alignment or patriotism?

Where does the current disparaging epithet 'some old white guy' come from? What could it mean, you wonder.

In terms of patriotism, in the US the southwestern states were once part of Mexico, so owning your Hispanic roots has connotations of not being patriotic to the US.

'His race as a black man', eh! What a tosser you are.

The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.




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Reply #37 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.
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First 'NATIVE' American actress Lily Gladstone to win Academy Award.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/lily-gladstone-the-very-first-native-americ...

...because anyone else born in America is not 'Native' born.
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Racism and Culturalism innit?
Such is the Media's corruption of Politics.
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Reply #39 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.

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Reply #40 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'?? You live alone.
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Reply #41 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


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Reply #42 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #43 - Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:30pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy Cheesy
Recognising you as a befuddled cockwomble who yawns and tut tuts is not insane, Bbwian.
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Reply #44 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 1:22pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 12:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 11:08am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, boys you seem to be accepting my point and trying to turn it to your own ends.  There are no major differences Genetically between the so-called "races".  Geneticists would laugh themselves silly reading the bullshit you post, you really are foolish in the extreme.  Go home, you're wasting all our time with your outmoded belief in the "races".  They do not exist.  All the "Races" are identical Genetically.   Any differences are superficial and meaningless.  Children.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You must be the only one in the world who thinks races don't exist

The United States Census Bureau mentions "race" three times in this one paragraph ...

"Though many respondents expect to see a Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish category on the race question, this question is asked separately because people of Hispanic origin may be of any race(s). The Census Bureau collects these data in accordance with the 1997 Office of Management and Budget standards on race and ethnicity."


Where does that leave you? .... up the creek without a paddle


I am not alone, ask any Geneticist, Bias.  You are the one who believes that "Races" are anything other than a social construct.  Run along, back to your rock, you really are a fool.  You don't understand what is being discussed here.  There are no major differences Genetically between the various "races", they can all interbreed.  There is only one "race", the human one.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


When you applaud Aboriginals, what are you recognising and applauding, cockwomble?

What IS the Aboriginality that you recognise as different to you or me if not ancestry, ie racial identity passed on genetically.  If there is no such thing as race, what IS aboriginality, wgphat is Africanness, what is a Jew, an Arab, a Chinese, a Japanese, Maori, Indian, Papuan or Eskimo??

All the same? No diff?  Of course there is diff. It is obvious to everyone.  Everybody recognises racial differences. They are obvious and evident. Only an idiot like you would pretend not to see them.

The second thing is - if they are different, as evidently they are, what is the rank order, the hierarchy?
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Reply #45 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy Cheesy
Recognising you as a befuddled cockwomble who yawns and tut tuts is not insane, Bbwian.

Did you once have another id here where you pretended to be a woman?

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Reply #46 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:21pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy Cheesy
Recognising you as a befuddled cockwomble who yawns and tut tuts is not insane, Bbwian.

Did you once have another id here where you pretended to be a woman?


That was my Aunt Agatha, my tough aunt, the one who eats broken bottles and conducts human sacrifices by the light of the full moon.

My Aunt Agatha is tall and thin and looks rather like a vulture in the Gobi desert, while Aunt Dahlia is short and solid, like a scrum half in the game of Rugby football. In disposition, too, they differ widely. Aunt Agatha is cold and haughty, though presumably unbending a bit when conducting human sacrifices at the time of the full moon, as she is widely rumoured to do, and her attitude towards me has always been that of an austere governess, causing me to feel as if I were six years old and she had just caught me stealing jam from the jam cupboard: whereas Aunt Dahlia is as jovial and bonhomous as a dame in a Christmas pantomime.

There's more to it, of course, but that's enough to satisfy your curiosity for now.

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Reply #47 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy Cheesy
Recognising you as a befuddled cockwomble who yawns and tut tuts is not insane, Bbwian.

Did you once have another id here where you pretended to be a woman?


That was my Aunt Agatha, my tough aunt, the one who eats broken bottles and conducts human sacrifices by the light of the full moon.


Norman Bates. Lives in the attic of your head.

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Reply #48 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:31pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:23pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy Cheesy
Recognising you as a befuddled cockwomble who yawns and tut tuts is not insane, Bbwian.

Did you once have another id here where you pretended to be a woman?


That was my Aunt Agatha, my tough aunt, the one who eats broken bottles and conducts human sacrifices by the light of the full moon.


Norman Bates. Lives in the attic of your head.


Thank you, Attila the Hun. Or shall I just call you Simple Simon?


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Reply #49 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:34pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:31pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:23pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:21pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:13pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 8:28pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 7:39pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:54pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 8th, 2024 at 3:14pm:
The great divide comparison is coming more and more into focus....


How many of the homeless in America, Australia, Britain are "some old white guys"?

I don't  think, nor do you, that Kanye West or Kamala Harris are white even though they are far more affluent than me or most white people anywhere. The former supported Trump, the latter Biden.

As for patriotism, you are talking nonsense (again),  as if the 19th century was a reliable guide to the 21st.  Louisiana was French once, Alaska Russian. Does that mean heir inhabitants today, 200 years on,  are tainted with being less patriotic?

You have a little learning but you really don't know what to do with it, other than regurgitate it randomly.

Your inner bitchy fag is at high noon.

Get out of the toilet block and google the issue with identifying as Hispanic in the southwestern states of the US and most parts of the south.

Unbelievable you haven't heard of the 'white guy' negative epithet referring to 'unearned' privilege and affluence and used ad nauseam by 'the woke' and many non-Anglo groups particularly in the US, but also in the UK and Canada.

Thank you, parrot.

As you were. We'll  call you.


Who's we'??


The sane.


Well that certainly excludes you, Soren.  You are the most insane person here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy Cheesy
Recognising you as a befuddled cockwomble who yawns and tut tuts is not insane, Bbwian.

Did you once have another id here where you pretended to be a woman?


That was my Aunt Agatha, my tough aunt, the one who eats broken bottles and conducts human sacrifices by the light of the full moon.


Norman Bates. Lives in the attic of your head.


Thank you, Attila the Hun. Or shall I just call you Simple Simon?



Are you dressed up as Agatha?
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American Racism.
Australian Culturalism.

The physical and the mental.

Two accusations handed down by the Media people and culture against those who would seek to turn off their TV's like 'heretics' and non-believers.
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The problem with the racist comments is deciding where to draw the line. The way I see it, if people like Pauline Hanson can get elected, then we need to be able to discuss some race issues without censorship, just as politicians can point out the real problems among some ethnic groups. Once you allow that, I can't see any consistent way to distinguish a 'valid' political view from an unacceptable racist attack. If you think you can, please let us all know.
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Racism is generally bad. It denigrates people, it discriminates people, all on the socially constructed ideal that White people are best, they are the greatest.  The reality is, they aren't.  They are just as venal, just as greedy, just as rapacious, just as corrupt, as everybody else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #53 - Mar 20th, 2024 at 6:34pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 3:51pm:
Racism is generally bad. It denigrates people, it discriminates people, all on the socially constructed ideal that White people are best, they are the greatest.  The reality is, they aren't.  They are just as venal, just as greedy, just as rapacious, just as corrupt, as everybody else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


But, but, but, you said '"Racism" is a social construct without evidence'. If you have no evidence of racism...
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 3:51pm:
Racism is generally bad. It denigrates people, it discriminates people, all on the socially constructed ideal that White people are best, they are the greatest.  The reality is, they aren't.  They are just as venal, just as greedy, just as rapacious, just as corrupt, as everybody else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You might be surprised to learn that in Britain. most incidents of ethno-chauvinism ('racism') occur among ethnic minorities - between Pakistanis and Indians, among African nations, and among Caribean nations.

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Racism is generally bad. It denigrates people, it discriminates people, all on the socially constructed ideal that White people are best, they are the greatest.  The reality is, they aren't.  They are just as venal, just as greedy, just as rapacious, just as corrupt, as everybody else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Social construct this, bbwian.

https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1769874404241015061


https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1770132912236581339

- this academic has a real doctorate, unlike you. As stupid as you, but.


Or this

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Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:27pm:


As usual we only see half the story, Soren but hey, what else have we come to expect from Racists and Islamopobes? Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:27pm:


As usual we only see half the story, Soren but hey, what else have we come to expect from Racists and Islamopobes? Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Show us the other half of these stories, Bbwian.

Show us white kids beating up a black kid.
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The usually pejorative terms "racist" or "racism" each have too many
subtle variations of semantics in their usage, making for a difficult,
non-emotive debate.

As a lifelong atheist, I despise the religion of Islam, and radical Muslims.

   Does that make me an ethno-religious racist?

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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence"



It is an idiotic, Bbwianesque notion to say the title, with or "without scientific evidence".
Beauty is a social contruct without scientific evidence. As are most human value judgement. Even science is a social construct. The idea that something is a social construct is itself, of course, a social construct.

There are evident differences between individiual, groups, races, nations etc. That human perception discerns differences is NOT a social construct. What judgement to make of the various inherent differences between things and people is endlessly debatable. Which difference is more important, which difference is irrelevant - none of these are based on scientific evidence because science carries no inherent value in itself. It is a method, nothing else.
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AusGeoff wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 10:03am:
The usually pejorative terms "racist" or "racism" each have too many
subtle variations of semantics in their usage, making for a difficult,
non-emotive debate.

As a lifelong atheist, I despise the religion of Islam, and radical Muslims.

   Does that make me an ethno-religious racist?



Yes and no.

Is this a scientific question? No. It is a moral question.
Is the moral judgement of atheism and antipathy towards Islam a scientifically assessable judgement? No. Is adherence to Islam a scientific act? Not any more than its rejection.

Are you, nevertheless judged to be a ethno-religious racists by the Bbwians of this wrld? Yes. Is Bbwian's a scientific judgement? No.

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Reply #62 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 4:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 9:49am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:27pm:


As usual we only see half the story, Soren but hey, what else have we come to expect from Racists and Islamopobes? Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Show us the other half of these stories, Bbwian.

Show us white kids beating up a black kid.



https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1770418920828162547
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Reply #64 - Mar 21st, 2024 at 8:12pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 7:52pm:



And there's the other half of the story - a big Bbwianesque, mindless, moronic yawn.


Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 7:51pm:
As usual we only see half the story, Soren but hey, what else have we come to expect from Racists and Islamopobes? Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Yawn is all Bbwian can provide as the other half of the story.

And it is exactly right - gate openers to the barbarians like Bbwian have absolutely no justification for their self-made treachery. Ask them and they yawn.

The enemy within - pudgy, stupid, incoherent yet all- pervasive.
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Funny racial and efnik stereotypes:

Italians


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Yes, muslims
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 20th, 2024 at 3:51pm:
Racism is generally bad. It denigrates people, it discriminates people, all on the socially constructed ideal that White people are best, they are the greatest.  The reality is, they aren't. They are just as venal, just as greedy, just as rapacious, just as corrupt, as everybody else.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



That's a pretty negative way to talk about yourself. You're white aren't you?




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There's some evidence here ....


Cultural diversity
Ancestry, top responses
All people      Greater Sydney      % Greater Sydney      New South Wales      % New South Wales      Australia      % Australia

English      1,244,708      23.8      2,404,990      29.8      8,385,928      33.0
Australian      1,167,625      22.3      2,307,549      28.6      7,596,753      29.9
Chinese      552,680      10.6      581,641      7.2      1,390,639      5.5
Irish      401,092      7.7      735,340      9.1      2,410,833      9.5
Scottish      315,681      6.0      620,363      7.7      2,176,777      8.6



Language used at home, top responses (other than English)
All people      Greater Sydney      % Greater Sydney      New South Wales      % New South Wales      Australia      % Australia

Mandarin      259,429      5.0      270,685      3.4      685,274      2.7
Arabic      219,483      4.2      227,243      2.8      367,159      1.4
Cantonese      144,538      2.8      148,943      1.8      295,281      1.2
Vietnamese      113,154      2.2      117,907      1.5      320,758      1.3
Hindi      76,308      1.5      80,051      1.0      197,132      0.8

English only used at home      2,995,240      57.3      5,457,982      67.6      18,303,662      72.0

Households where a non-English language is used      767,275      42.0      856,911      29.5      2,295,688      24.8


https://www.abs.gov.au/census/find-census-data/quickstats/2021/1GSYD





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How are the Hindus and Muslims getting on with each other?   The Chinese and the Indians? Muslims and the Chinese?  Huh

I don't see a great mixing and accepting.  Whitey must accommodate all but the efniks are not playing with each other.

Shurely shome mishtake.

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Frank wrote on Mar 23rd, 2024 at 7:46am:
How are the Hindus and Muslims getting on with each other?   The Chinese and the Indians? Muslims and the Chinese?



Just lately it's been the Palestinians and the Jews over Gaza. Brian backed away from that issue, "I've got nothing more to discuss with you", he said

It was the Muslims and Hindus last year, re: Blacktown Local Council getting something wrong that caused the two to nearly come to blows






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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



American Airlines passenger yelled about ‘blue-eyed white devils’ and threatened to ‘take this plane down’: affidavit


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Shail Patel had bloodshot eyes and reeked of alcohol — and yelled at other passengers, “F–k you blue-eyed white devils I’m gonna take this plane down with all you motherf–kers on it,” according to a criminal affidavit obtained by The Post Friday.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/22/us-news/american-airlines-passenger-in-viral-video...



There is no DNA evidence for this news item.... on lythe video and the report.... tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Another 'no DNA evidence' social construct event.
North African immigrants throw a French boy into the sewer and spit on him. Then they post videos to humiliate him further. They hate us.  But luckily, there is no DNA evidence, only your lying eyes. Phew!

https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1771253092652118345
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None so blind as those who refuse to see, Soren.  You can continue to live under your rock because to admit that you are wrong is impossible for you. You suffer from a cancer called, "Racism" and you hate the light.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23rd, 2024 at 4:53pm:
None so blind as those who refuse to see, Soren.  You can continue to live under your rock because to admit that you are wrong is impossible for you. You suffer from a cancer called, "Racism" and you hate the light.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What does an brown Indian shouting 'blue-eyed white devils' suffer from, Bbwian?

Please tell us. This is your special subject.



You can also contemplate this graph

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Leaked police report shows 95% of 79 arrested for violent robbery at Spanish festival were Arabs

Of the 79 individuals arrested for aggravated robbery and intimidation at this year’s summer festival in the Spanish city of Bilbao, 75 were of Arab origin, a leaked police detainee list revealed.

The demography of those arrested at the annual nine-day Aste Nagusia celebration was reported by ESdiario, a Spanish digital newspaper, citing an individual named Alvise Pérez, who describes himself as an independent analyst and who published the confidential police detainee list on social media claiming it to be in the national public interest.

The list, which reveals the name and the mugshot of each suspect, reveals what appears to be a high number of males primarily of Maghreb origin, a region that prioritizes Spain as a gateway to Europe due to its proximity to the African continent and the land borders shared at the Spanish African enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla.
https://www.rmx.news/crime/leaked-police-report-shows-95-of-the-79-arrests-for-v...

Shurely shome mishtake - Being Arab is not in the DNA (it's in the blood... ed.) Arabs are about 3% of the population in Spain. What a huge difference a little extra Islam+tint makes, eh? Or might there be some other explanation?




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None so blind as those who refuse to see, Soren.  You can continue to live under your rock because to admit that you are wrong is impossible for you. You suffer from a cancer called, "Racism" and you hate the light.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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None so blind as those who refuse to see, Soren.  You can continue to live under your rock because to admit that you are wrong is impossible for you. You suffer from a cancer called, "Racism" and you hate the light.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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None so blind as those who refuse to see, Soren.  You can continue to live under your rock because to admit that you are wrong is impossible for you. You suffer from a cancer called, "Racism" and you hate the light.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Leaked police report shows 95% of 79 arrested for violent robbery at Spanish festival were Arabs

Of the 79 individuals arrested for aggravated robbery and intimidation at this year’s summer festival in the Spanish city of Bilbao, 75 were of Arab origin, a leaked police detainee list revealed.

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Frank wrote on Mar 25th, 2024 at 10:59am:
Leaked police report shows 95% of 79 arrested for violent robbery at Spanish festival were Arabs

Of the 79 individuals arrested for aggravated robbery and intimidation at this year’s summer festival in the Spanish city of Bilbao, 75 were of Arab origin, a leaked police detainee list revealed.

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The police were targeting Arabs?


Oh... here's turdy to rescue Daddy Bbwian! Mhmmhhh.... touching.

No. Arabs - Muslims- are a toxic addition to Europe.  A toxic addition to all and every country.
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Arabs are 'caucasoid' (as are Indians and some black north-east Africans).
No wonder the 'Negroids' put them up against the wall.

It's a Race War. Negroids and Mongoloids didn't want the Caucasoids invading their Africa & Asia.
Europe was the backyard to the Middle-East front yard. One 'white', the other 'brown' - but both 'caucasoid'.

Now the White Caucasoids have taken the lands of North America & Sahul and the Mongoloids have seen the threat come from behind and the Negroids are now seeing the threat come from the South.

There is a positive and negative to all things - even 'Racism'.
The positive is - sticking up for your Race and surviving against the negative attacking 'racists'. The ultimate 'positive' is doing this by 'out-breeding' the other race.
When it comes to 'power', well that's 'Culturalism', not Racism.
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Jasin wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
Arabs are 'caucasoid' (as are Indians and some black north-east Africans).
No wonder the 'Negroids' put them up against the wall.

It's a Race War. Negroids and Mongoloids didn't want the Caucasoids invading their Africa & Asia.
Europe was the backyard to the Middle-East front yard. One 'white', the other 'brown' - but both 'caucasoid'.

Now the White Caucasoids have taken the lands of North America & Sahul and the Mongoloids have seen the threat come from behind and the Negroids are now seeing the threat come from the South.

There is a positive and negative to all things - even 'Racism'.
The positive is - sticking up for your Race and surviving against the negative attacking 'racists'. The ultimate 'positive' is doing this by 'out-breeding' the other race.
When it comes to 'power', well that's 'Culturalism', not Racism.



Too many 'young adult' fantasy novels, pal.

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Frank wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 6:19pm:
Jasin wrote on Mar 26th, 2024 at 6:01pm:
Arabs are 'caucasoid' (as are Indians and some black north-east Africans).
No wonder the 'Negroids' put them up against the wall.

It's a Race War. Negroids and Mongoloids didn't want the Caucasoids invading their Africa & Asia.
Europe was the backyard to the Middle-East front yard. One 'white', the other 'brown' - but both 'caucasoid'.

Now the White Caucasoids have taken the lands of North America & Sahul and the Mongoloids have seen the threat come from behind and the Negroids are now seeing the threat come from the South.

There is a positive and negative to all things - even 'Racism'.
The positive is - sticking up for your Race and surviving against the negative attacking 'racists'. The ultimate 'positive' is doing this by 'out-breeding' the other race.
When it comes to 'power', well that's 'Culturalism', not Racism.



Too many 'young adult' fantasy novels, pal.


You read what is 'known'.
I write what is 'to know'.
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In New York City, a White man stops to give his coat to a homeless Black man, who then proceeds to repeatedly beat, & then rob, the White man.


https://twitter.com/AmericazOutlaw/status/1776339874343276578
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This graph illustrates the woke mind virus taking over legacy media.

Same happened with online media and the education system. Then it spread to other countries.

Infection rate almost 100%.

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783053802033332486
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Ancient Melbournian saying "We love Black, White, Blue, Yellow, Green, Grey, Brown and Red people."
"...we just hate all the 'foreign' ones"


Ancient Sydnean saying "We love Black, White, Blue, Yellow, Green, Grey, Brown and Red people."
"...we just hate all the 'local' ones."


So which one is the 'Racist'?


Yes, this is a 'trick' question. So be careful.  Wink
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Jasin wrote on Apr 24th, 2024 at 9:12pm:
Ancient Melbournian saying "We love Black, White, Blue, Yellow, Green, Grey, Brown and Red people."
"...we just hate all the 'foreign' ones"


Ancient Sydnean saying "We love Black, White, Blue, Yellow, Green, Grey, Brown and Red people."
"...we just hate all the 'local' ones."


So which one is the 'Racist'?


Yes, this is a 'trick' question. So be careful.  Wink
(Challenge to Frank, Mr Eccy, GreatDivide and even FD) Cheesy


Whoever said, all those decades ago, that you make sense and should press on was lying to you.

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Woman brags about shoplifting from Target and suggests that store price tags aren't mandatory.



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GERMANY: Woman Convicted Of “Offending” Migrant Gang Rapists Receives Longer Prison Sentence Than The Rapists


https://www.thepublica.com/germany-woman-convicted-of-offending-migrant-gang-rap...-rapists/

The rapists were identified as a Pole, an Egyptian, a Libyan, a Kuwaiti, an Iranian, an Armenian, an Afghan, a Syrian, and a Montenegrin. The men had a team of 20 defense attorneys arguing their innocence.

https://www.thepublica.com/germany-woman-convicted-of-offending-migrant-gang-rap...

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Skilled migration and vibrant diversity is our strength

Shameless Sikh insurance scammers caught in the act in Sydney: ‘This is why your insurance is going up’
https://www.noticer.news/sikh-insurance-scam-sydney-dashcam/



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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 2nd, 2024 at 8:52pm:

Big vagina, Bbwiyawn.
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Another day, another brawl between doctors & engineers at a grocery store.

Why does this keep happening?

https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1816507671790645308
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Do not ask a black man not to smoke on the train.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1816460113105834294


Or to have a ticket
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1816686932132319479




But as every schoolboy knows, "we Africans are most intelligent race on planet! We invented everything: traffic lights, cars, computers, toilets etc."
https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1815800768085053734
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It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

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Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:41am:
It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/02/89623569-13845447-image-a-37_17261923...





The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods, Frank.

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Historically, chickens held special importance for enslaved black Americans, being the only livestock they were allowed to keep. Black domestic workers would cook fried chicken for their masters and, later, their employers. And then, after emancipation, women known as “waiter carriers” would hawk trays of fried chicken and biscuits to travellers through open windows as their trains stopped in stations.

But while these black cooks and homemakers effectively invented what would become known as southern food, their contribution was erased. The white folk took the credit for its creation, while black people were mocked and parodied merely as greedy consumers. It’s one of the most outrageous examples of cultural theft.

The racist 1915 film The Birth of a Nation, widely touted as the first blockbuster, attempted to paint black people as aggressive, disorganised and untrustworthy. In one scene, elected black officials are seen swigging from whisky bottles and putting their bare feet on tables. And then one man is seen animalistically gnawing on a chicken drumstick. In that one clip, the negative association was cemented.

Later, advertising posters were printed featuring caricatures of black people with big lips and grinning smiles eating fried chicken. One mini chain even went so far as to have such a character as its logo. Its name? Coon Chicken Inn. It remained open until the 1950s.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:43am:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:41am:
It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/02/89623569-13845447-image-a-37_17261923...





The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods, Frank.




This is in Adelaide. And the black guy obviously had no issue with it.
Was the black man in Adelaide wacist by holding a bucket of fried chick even??



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Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:43am:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:41am:
It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/02/89623569-13845447-image-a-37_17261923...





The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods, Frank.




This is in Adelaide.



Makes no difference whatsoever.

Those guys on Hey Hey It's Saturday dressed up in black face in a Melbourne studio.

It was still racist.
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The physical differences stick out right in front of your eyes but there's no differences Bwyan says...

Eyes, noses, skin colour, hair colour, hair straight or curly, kinky, or coily. etc etc.

If there is no genetic differences how are these traits passed on to children of mixed marriages?

What ever the reason this has come about - it's to do with science and nothing to do with some utopian idea that race is a social construct.

Otherwise all human beings would look exactly the same the world over.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:11pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:43am:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:41am:
It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/02/89623569-13845447-image-a-37_17261923...





The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods, Frank.




This is in Adelaide.



Makes no difference whatsoever.

Those guys on Hey Hey It's Saturday dressed up in black face in a Melbourne studio.

It was still racist.


Wacist wacist wacist. Oh phuk off.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:11pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:43am:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:41am:
It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/02/89623569-13845447-image-a-37_17261923...





The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods, Frank.




This is in Adelaide.



Makes no difference whatsoever.

Those guys on Hey Hey It's Saturday dressed up in black face in a Melbourne studio.

It was still racist.

And the black guy obviously had no issue with it.
Was the black man in Adelaide wacist by holding a bucket of fried chick even??
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Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 2:12pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 12:11pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:52am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:43am:
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2024 at 11:41am:
It is now wacist to show a black man with fried chicken.

A KFC advertisement featuring Port Adelaide AFL stars has been removed from the internet after claims the video was racist.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/09/13/02/89623569-13845447-image-a-37_17261923...





The fried chicken stereotype is an anti-African American racist trope that has its roots in the American Civil War and traditional slave foods, Frank.




This is in Adelaide.



Makes no difference whatsoever.

Those guys on Hey Hey It's Saturday dressed up in black face in a Melbourne studio.

It was still racist.

And the black guy obviously had no issue with it.
Was the black man in Adelaide wacist by holding a bucket of fried chick even??


I don't know if he's a racist - I've never seen or heard of him before.

But that's irrelevant, as I'm not calling anyone a racist.

I'm saying the ad is a racist ad.

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acid attacks were basically unheard of in the UK 30 years ago, but today the UK has the most recorded acid attacks in the world.

there is a very clear reason for this, and there is an equally clear solution

Oct 1
Girl, 14, suffers 'life-changing' injuries after acid attack at west London school https://lbc.co.uk/news/girl-suffers-life-changing-injuries-acid-attack-london-sc
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Import the barbaric third world - become the dangerous barbaric third world.

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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Racially profiling them? How ridiculous! I challenge ANYONE to see any particular features (except perhaps their given names?) that might possibly enable racial profiling. Preposterous!

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Yawn to this, moron:


A third person has been arrested over the shocking alleged murder of a Newcastle man who was allegedly stabbed to death by a group of aboriginals after he told them not to litter.

Queensland Police on Sunday arrested a 33-year-old man in Yeppoon over the death of James Callahan, 22, who was allegedly killed in Hamilton on November 17 while waiting for his order at a late-night eatery after finishing work.

Alivia Muriel Briggs, 33, and Jason Talbot, 27, who are both indigenous, were arrested the next day and charged with murder. Both were remanded in custody and neither had applied for bail.

Newcastle Local Court heard that Talbot was out on bail after being charged with multiple domestic violence and assault offences.



Superintendent Kylie Endemi, the Newcastle City Police District commander said last week that police would alleged Mr Callahan had been murdered for telling his attacked not to throw rubbish on the street.

“He simply made a comment to a group of people about littering. As a result of that comment, we will allege a group of people attacked him,” he said.

“We will then allege the victim left the area with a friend, walking up Beaumont St, and further allege a group of people attacked this victim on a second occasion.
“He suffered significant wounds and unfortunately passed away as a result of those injuries.”


The video is at the Twitter link:
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



An Indlan reporter is given the opportunity to interview the Dalai Lama about a number of things, but chooses to focus on lmmlgratlon to The West and asks...

Reporter: People from Afghanistan or Africa who want to stay in Europe, shouldn't they be allowed to?

Lama:  No, Europe will become like Afghanistan or Africa... he he he he he.

Reporter: Like my parents came to The UK from India, that's ok too isn't it?

Lama: No, England is small island, 90% become lndlan he he he he he he.

The Dalai Lama gets it, he thinks she's mildly retarded, why can't the reporter understand🤔

https://x.com/UltraDane/status/1875965175947473306


EVEN the Dalai Lama is wacist!!   Cry Cry
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"Anti Racist Educators" exposed by their own racism in shocking debate




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Reply #122 - May 11th, 2025 at 8:38pm
 
Racial and commensurate cultural differences illustrated.

https://x.com/RadioGenoa/status/1921210358112423979


Explained

https://x.com/ClayBrown320/status/1921211833177817341

Same goes for Aborigines, btw. No concepts.

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Reply #123 - May 11th, 2025 at 10:19pm
 
Perhaps the colonists must bear some responsibility, Soren?  They failed to uplift the natives and teach them the meaning of the word, "maintenance", now didn't they?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #124 - May 12th, 2025 at 9:17am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Perhaps the colonists must bear some responsibility, Soren?  They failed to uplift the natives and teach them the meaning of the word, "maintenance", now didn't they?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
    The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
    (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
    Our loved Egyptian night?"

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Reply #125 - May 12th, 2025 at 12:00pm
 
Frank wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 9:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Perhaps the colonists must bear some responsibility, Soren?  They failed to uplift the natives and teach them the meaning of the word, "maintenance", now didn't they?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
    The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
    (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
    Our loved Egyptian night?"


Was that an admission of failure to uplift and educate the natives, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #126 - May 12th, 2025 at 3:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
Frank wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 9:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Perhaps the colonists must bear some responsibility, Soren?  They failed to uplift the natives and teach them the meaning of the word, "maintenance", now didn't they?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
    The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
    (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
    Our loved Egyptian night?"


Was that an admission of failure to uplift and educate the natives, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No.
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Reply #127 - May 12th, 2025 at 4:53pm
 
Frank wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 3:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
Frank wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 9:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Perhaps the colonists must bear some responsibility, Soren?  They failed to uplift the natives and teach them the meaning of the word, "maintenance", now didn't they?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
    The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
    (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
    Our loved Egyptian night?"


Was that an admission of failure to uplift and educate the natives, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No.


Of course not.  No European has ever erred where Colonialism is concerned, hey?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #128 - May 13th, 2025 at 8:07am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 12:00pm:
Frank wrote on May 12th, 2025 at 9:17am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2025 at 10:19pm:
Perhaps the colonists must bear some responsibility, Soren?  They failed to uplift the natives and teach them the meaning of the word, "maintenance", now didn't they?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
    And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
    The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
    Bring all your hopes to nought.


Take up the White Man's burden—
    And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
    The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
    (Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
    Our loved Egyptian night?"


Was that an admission of failure to uplift and educate the natives, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Your question is an admission that the natives need uplifting educating into civilisation.
Some take to it, some resist improvements.




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An African man has admitted sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl for 30 minutes after locking her in a public toilet cubicle in St Kilda, Melbourne.

Mostaf Abdirahman Ali, 30, faced the County Court of Victoria on Monday after previously pleading guilty to false imprisonment, sexual assault and common law assault over the horrific January 1, 2022, sex attack.
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Frank wrote on May 16th, 2025 at 1:28pm:
An African man has admitted sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl for 30 minutes after locking her in a public toilet cubicle in St Kilda, Melbourne.

Mostaf Abdirahman Ali, 30, faced the County Court of Victoria on Monday after previously pleading guilty to false imprisonment, sexual assault and common law assault over the horrific January 1, 2022, sex attack.



Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson: "The reason I hire so many blacks to run Chicago is because we're planet earth's most generous race" 
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1924170977014944077

Oh?  Really? On any given day in 2021, an estimated 7 million men, women, and children were living in modern slavery in Africa.

Around 30 million internally displaced persons, refugees and asylum-seekers live in Africa, representing almost one-third of the world’s refugee population.




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Reply #131 - May 20th, 2025 at 2:27pm
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 2:27pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Blak mayor dunno dat:

Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson: "The reason I hire so many blacks to run Chicago is because we're planet earth's most generous race"

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1924170977014944077
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Reply #133 - May 20th, 2025 at 4:17pm
 
Frank wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 3:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 2:27pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Blak mayor dunno dat:

Mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson: "The reason I hire so many blacks to run Chicago is because we're planet earth's most generous race"

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1924170977014944077


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #134 - May 21st, 2025 at 2:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:17pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.

Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

Racial characteristics are typical to certain geographic areas BECAUSE they are passed on genetically. That's why the Japanese look Japanese.

These various geographic area have their own histories and cultures. Children are brought up in these cultures. So Japanese kiddies will not only look Japanese but will have a Japanese cultural outlook, values, customs.
Same with all other ethnicities and races  that there has been greater mobility in the last 5 minutes of history or that Angelina Jolie can have black and Asian adopted kiddies doesn't change any of that.

Your physical racial features you inherit from your parents through their DNA. Through upbringing, acculturation you grow into the culture of your ethic or racial group. Happens to everyone. Not a big challenging shadow you need to box against, you big  stupid pseud.
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Reply #135 - May 21st, 2025 at 3:50pm
 
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 2:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:17pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.

Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

Racial characteristics are typical to certain geographic areas BECAUSE they are passed on genetically. That's why the Japanese look Japanese.


Those characteristics however are immaterial to whether or not a person from Japan can interbreed with a person from Australia, Soren, which is the point I have been making all along and which you still seem to refuse to accept.  A Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European or an Arab or an African person, despite them superficially looking different.  The differences are superficial.  When you admit that then my job is part-way done.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #136 - May 21st, 2025 at 4:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 3:50pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 2:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2025 at 4:17pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me, are we ready for another losing round, Soren?  Racism is a social construct.  You have thus far failed dismally to produce an argument that works against that statement.  DNA has proven Racism false, badly.  All humanity share the same DNA, there are no major differences between the various "Races", Soren.  We are all members of the one race, the Human one - Homo Sapien Sapiens. Time to grow up and admit that your Racism is false, based on a pure social construction.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.

Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

Racial characteristics are typical to certain geographic areas BECAUSE they are passed on genetically. That's why the Japanese look Japanese.


Those characteristics however are immaterial to whether or not a person from Japan can interbreed with a person from Australia, Soren, which is the point I have been making all along and which you still seem to refuse to accept.  A Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European or an Arab or an African person, despite them superficially looking different.  The differences are superficial.  When you admit that then my job is part-way done.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.   Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

If a Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European - then why would we need a Voice to Parliament, affirmative action, racial discrimination Acts, diversity and inclusion training, and a miriad other race based distinctions, preferments, assistance programs etc, etc.  All this just for some superficial differences in appearance??
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Reply #137 - May 21st, 2025 at 5:16pm
 
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 4:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 3:50pm:
Those characteristics however are immaterial to whether or not a person from Japan can interbreed with a person from Australia, Soren, which is the point I have been making all along and which you still seem to refuse to accept.  A Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European or an Arab or an African person, despite them superficially looking different.  The differences are superficial.  When you admit that then my job is part-way done.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.   Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

If a Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European - then why would we need a Voice to Parliament, affirmative action, racial discrimination Acts, diversity and inclusion training, and a miriad other race based distinctions, preferments, assistance programs etc, etc.  All this just for some superficial differences in appearance??


To counter the effects of the socially constructed Racism that you champion, Soren.  Why are you such a Wally that you cannot understand that Racism is based on a social idea rather than a scientific reality?  Racism is purely a social construction, a construction created by insecure people who oppress others because of their different coloured skin/frizzy hair/thickness of lips/size of nose/etc.  Anything that they had declared is different to what they consider is the, "norm".  Anything that marks a person in their and your imagination as being different to the, "norm" that you are unwilling to accept as being the, "norm",  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #138 - May 21st, 2025 at 6:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 5:16pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 4:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 3:50pm:
Those characteristics however are immaterial to whether or not a person from Japan can interbreed with a person from Australia, Soren, which is the point I have been making all along and which you still seem to refuse to accept.  A Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European or an Arab or an African person, despite them superficially looking different.  The differences are superficial.  When you admit that then my job is part-way done.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.   Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

If a Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European - then why would we need a Voice to Parliament, affirmative action, racial discrimination Acts, diversity and inclusion training, and a miriad other race based distinctions, preferments, assistance programs etc, etc.  All this just for some superficial differences in appearance??


To counter the effects of the socially constructed Racism that you champion, Soren.  Why are you such a Wally that you cannot understand that Racism is based on a social idea rather than a scientific reality?  Racism is purely a social construction, a construction created by insecure people who oppress others because of their different coloured skin/frizzy hair/thickness of lips/size of nose/etc.  Anything that they had declared is different to what they consider is the, "norm".  Anything that marks a person in their and your imagination as being different to the, "norm" that you are unwilling to accept as being the, "norm",  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So Aboriginal on Aboriginal violence is due to my oppressing of Aborigines 3000 km away. South African or American black on black murder rate is because straight-haired people notice that they have fizzy hair.

Sounds like something you dreamt up, silky old pseud.

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Reply #139 - May 21st, 2025 at 8:59pm
 
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 5:16pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 4:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 3:50pm:
Those characteristics however are immaterial to whether or not a person from Japan can interbreed with a person from Australia, Soren, which is the point I have been making all along and which you still seem to refuse to accept.  A Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European or an Arab or an African person, despite them superficially looking different.  The differences are superficial.  When you admit that then my job is part-way done.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.   Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

If a Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European - then why would we need a Voice to Parliament, affirmative action, racial discrimination Acts, diversity and inclusion training, and a miriad other race based distinctions, preferments, assistance programs etc, etc.  All this just for some superficial differences in appearance??


To counter the effects of the socially constructed Racism that you champion, Soren.  Why are you such a Wally that you cannot understand that Racism is based on a social idea rather than a scientific reality?  Racism is purely a social construction, a construction created by insecure people who oppress others because of their different coloured skin/frizzy hair/thickness of lips/size of nose/etc.  Anything that they had declared is different to what they consider is the, "norm".  Anything that marks a person in their and your imagination as being different to the, "norm" that you are unwilling to accept as being the, "norm",  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So Aboriginal on Aboriginal violence is due to my oppressing of Aborigines 3000 km away. South African or American black on black murder rate is because straight-haired people notice that they have fizzy hair.

Sounds like something you dreamt up, silky old pseud.


You oppress people, Soren.  You have chosen people based on what you consider, "the norm."  You hate people who look different to yourself purely based on insubstantial factors.  You should be ashamed of yourself, championing such things as skin colour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Swedish father:  "My son has been robbed 3 times. Twice by Somalis, once by Arabs. He's marked for life.  "If I had a daughter I would follow her with a loaded shotgun"

Welcome to Sweden, once the safest country on Earth.

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Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #142 - May 22nd, 2025 at 10:33am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 8:59pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 5:16pm:
Frank wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 4:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 3:50pm:
Those characteristics however are immaterial to whether or not a person from Japan can interbreed with a person from Australia, Soren, which is the point I have been making all along and which you still seem to refuse to accept.  A Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European or an Arab or an African person, despite them superficially looking different.  The differences are superficial.  When you admit that then my job is part-way done.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You stupid old poseur, you are 'arguing' with your own shadows, no-one else.   Racial characteristics ARE passed on genetically, by DNA. No other way .

If a Japanese person is effectively the same as an Indigenous Australian or a European - then why would we need a Voice to Parliament, affirmative action, racial discrimination Acts, diversity and inclusion training, and a miriad other race based distinctions, preferments, assistance programs etc, etc.  All this just for some superficial differences in appearance??


To counter the effects of the socially constructed Racism that you champion, Soren.  Why are you such a Wally that you cannot understand that Racism is based on a social idea rather than a scientific reality?  Racism is purely a social construction, a construction created by insecure people who oppress others because of their different coloured skin/frizzy hair/thickness of lips/size of nose/etc.  Anything that they had declared is different to what they consider is the, "norm".  Anything that marks a person in their and your imagination as being different to the, "norm" that you are unwilling to accept as being the, "norm",  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So Aboriginal on Aboriginal violence is due to my oppressing of Aborigines 3000 km away. South African or American black on black murder rate is because straight-haired people notice that they have fizzy hair.

Sounds like something you dreamt up, silky old pseud.


You oppress people, Soren.  You have chosen people based on what you consider, "the norm."  You hate people who look different to yourself purely based on insubstantial factors.  You should be ashamed of yourself, championing such things as skin colour.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Cheesy
Vibrant diversity is celebrating insubstantial, superficial variations of the essentially, blandly same same. The Japanese are insubstantially different to Aborigines and Arabs are the same same as Indonsians, Finns are barely distinguishable from Somalies. Multiculturalism is the celebration of beige sameness.
Only Anglos and Danes are really, substantially different coz they are wacist white supremacists.  Everyone else is essentially just the same same happy, inclusive, tolerant, self-effacing oppressed-by-Anglos other.

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Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2025 at 11:41pm:
Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Keep your head firmly lodged in your blessedly ignorant arse, Bbwiyawn. Just roll ze eyez and tut tut when you come out for air.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you obviously failed to read, didn't you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on May 22nd, 2025 at 9:26pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you obviously failed to read, didn't you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Idiotic, confected outrage. Pathetic.

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Frank wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Frank wrote on May 22nd, 2025 at 9:26pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you obviously failed to read, didn't you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Idiotic, confected outrage. Pathetic.


Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #150 - May 23rd, 2025 at 9:49pm
 
Frank wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 3:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2025 at 1:40pm:
Frank wrote on May 22nd, 2025 at 9:26pm:


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren, you obviously failed to read, didn't you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Idiotic, confected outrage. Pathetic.


He just wants to show us what a little boy he is
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What does this mean, then, you stupid, miserable git:



COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 51
Legislative powers of the Parliament.
  The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:--

(xxvi.)  The people of any race for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws:
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Reply #152 - May 24th, 2025 at 2:00pm
 
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What does this mean, then, you stupid, miserable git:

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 51
Legislative powers of the Parliament.
  The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:--

(xxvi.)  The people of any race for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws:


The Constitution was written and amended before the meaning of the Human Genome Project was known, Soren, so it reflects the understanding of the day wrt "Race".  In scientific terms it is meaningless.  Just as your cries for help in this matter are meaningless, Scientifically.  Time to catch up with the 21st century and put away your play things and be an Adult, Soren and forget that there is a difference between the "Races".  Differences which you harp on as significant but in reality are superficial and are a response to local environmental differences.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #153 - May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 2:00pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 11:29am:
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


What does this mean, then, you stupid, miserable git:

COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA CONSTITUTION ACT - SECT 51
Legislative powers of the Parliament.
  The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws for the peace, order, and good government of the Commonwealth with respect to:--

(xxvi.)  The people of any race for whom it is deemed necessary to make special laws:


The Constitution was written and amended before the meaning of the Human Genome Project was known, Soren, so it reflects the understanding of the day wrt "Race".  In scientific terms it is meaningless.  Just as your cries for help in this matter are meaningless, Scientifically.  Time to catch up with the 21st century and put away your play things and be an Adult, Soren and forget that there is a difference between the "Races".  Differences which you harp on as significant but in reality are superficial and are a response to local environmental differences.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.

The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.




Here's Islamic genetic science, berk:


In his May 9, 2025 Friday sermon at the North Hudson Islamic Education Center in Union City, NJ, Sheikh Reda Shata, imam of the Islamic Society of Monmouth County (Al-Aman Mosque) in Middletown, NJ, discussed what he described as the psychological makeup of the "Zionist personality," citing Quranic references to the Jews. He claimed these are not simply human "characteristics," but "human genes" passed from one generation to another.

Shata said that according to the Quran, Jews are described as liars, "the biggest liars among all of God's creation," and alleged that they cannot stop lying due to a "lying gene." He claimed a second trait is racism, accusing Jews of bullying "all of God's creation" while labeling non-Zionists "gentiles." He urged the audience to read the Talmud.
“From this sermon, you will learn unbelievable things. You will see that the psychological characteristics of the Zionist personality are not human characteristics. No. These are genes. These are human genes. These are genes that are passed down from grandparents to grandchildren."
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Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #155 - May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.
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Now Even Science Demonstrates Islamic Aggression
Along with Islamic doctrine and history, one can now add science to the list of things that demonstrate Islamic aggression.



Ancestry.com, a company that operates a network of genealogical and historical records, and provides DNA ancestry kits, recently asserted what history already knows: most of the denizens of Turkey are not Turks but rather the descendants of Christian peoples, mostly Greeks, who lived in Anatolia well over a millennium before the Turks invaded, but converted, due to Islam’s three choices (conversion, jizya/submission, or death).

As might be expected, many Turks, who tend to be zealous over their heritage, are outraged at finding that their ancestors were not conquering Turks but conquered infidels.  This finding also underscores a vicious cycle I’ve discussed before: most of those Muslims who today persecute the indigenous Christians in their midst—and Turks rank among them—are themselves the descendants of Christians who converted to Islam to cease their own persecution.

One wonders how long before DNA studies reveal another, even more unflattering fact: the bloodline of conquering Muslims—Turks chief among them—is further adulterated with the blood of European concubines, sex-slaves, many millions of which were imported over the centuries by Turks, Tatars, Barbary corsairs, and various other Muslim peoples. The historical record is clear on this.

As one example, in 1438, Bartolomeo de Giano, an Italian Franciscan, witnessed the Turks’ slave raids throughout the Balkans.  From Hungary, 300,000 were enslaved and “carried off in just a few days,” he wrote; from Serbia and Transylvania 100,000 were “led away in iron fetters tied to the backs of horses. . . . [and] women and children were herded by dogs without any mercy or piety. If one of them slowed down, unable to walk further because of thirst or pain, O Good Jesus! she immediately ended her life there in torment, cut in half.”

As one historian observes, “The massive enslavement of slavic populations during this period gave rise, in fact, to our word ‘slave’: in Bartolomeo’s time, to be a slave was to be a Slav.”

Similarly, the Greek historian, Doukas (1400-1462), writes the following about the palace of Ottoman sultan Bayezid:

[T]here one could find carefully selected boys and girls, with beautiful faces, sweet young boys and girls who shone more brightly than the sun.  To what nations did they belong?  They were Byzantines [Greeks], Serbs, Wallachians, Albanians, Hungarians, Saxons, Bulgarians, and Latins….  He himself [Sultan Bayezid] unceasingly gave himself over to pleasure, to the point of exhaustion, by indulging in debauchery with these boys and girls.

Nor, as some of these passages suggest, were European slaves used only for pleasure; Muslims regularly procreated with them as well.  Even that one Turk most celebrated by Erdogan’s Turkey—Bayezid’s great-grandson, Muhammad II, the conqueror of Constantinople—was born of a Christian slave mother.  This did not change the fact that he became an avowed enemy of Christendom—the “forerunner of antichrist” as he was described.

Moreover, as Darío Fernández-Morera, author of The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise, explains:

Such was the impact of Christian slaves on Islamic lands, that many of the Umayyad rulers of Islamic Spain, as the sons of sexual slaves, were blue-eyed and blond or red-haired; and the founder of the “Arabic” Nasrid dynasty of Granada was called al-Hamar, “the Red One,” because of his reddish hair and beard. … Arabist Celia del Moral observes that in Umayyad al-Andalus the most coveted and therefore expensive sexual slaves were blond and red-haired females from the Northern Christian regions.

In fact, according to the calculations of Spanish Arabist Julian Ribera, due to the constant sexual intercourse with European slave women, the genetic Arab component of each generation of Umayyad rulers was reduced by half, so that the last Umayyad, Hisham II (976-1013), was approximately only 0.09 percent Arab.

Nor was this phenomenon limited to Muslim elites—caliphs, sultans, emirs, and the like—because they could afford “well-staffed” harems.  Naturally, it is they whose doings are recorded, because it is they—the rulers, not the lay Muslim—that chroniclers recorded.  Even so, history makes clear that European sex-slaves were, depending on time and place, abundantly available to the average Muslim.

Thus we learn that the slave markets of Adrianople (Edirne), formerly the Ottoman capital, were so inundated with European flesh that children sold for pennies, “a very beautiful slave woman was exchanged for a pair of boots, and four Serbian slaves were traded for a horse.”

Similarly, considering that sixteenth century “Algiers teemed with Christian captives, and it became a common saying that a Christian slave was scarce a fair barter for an onion,” little wonder by the late eighteenth century, European observers noted how “the inhabitants of Algiers have a rather white complexion.”

Will Ancestry.com or similar organizations ever demonstrate this other unflattering fact concerning Muslim bloodlines through DNA?  Unlikely.
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Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #158 - May 24th, 2025 at 7:31pm
 
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Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Then why call people racist? If you can't demonstrate it, it's obviously not real and you are just wasting your time admonishing people for no reason or to just feel better about yourself.

Another thing, why do you always say everyone can breed together? No-one is saying differing races are a different species. There can be a huge range of characteristics within a species, both behaviourally and physically, see Canis Familiaris for an example.
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Reply #159 - May 24th, 2025 at 7:51pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You ARE a moron.
You understand nothing.  Science, like all the things I listed, and much else besides, is socially constructed.

You are a moron. You do not comprehend even your own "argument".  Moron is overestimating you. You are a moronic, mindless fvkking troll.
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Reply #160 - May 24th, 2025 at 10:33pm
 
Setanta wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 7:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Then why call people racist? If you can't demonstrate it, it's obviously not real and you are just wasting your time admonishing people for no reason or to just feel better about yourself.


"Racism" is a social construct and is acted on without proof of any kind as it's existence or it's effects.  People, ignorant people, act as if it is real and as the differences between peope actually exist and make a difference.  I am not claiming that it exists, fools like Soren are claiming it exists and it's effects are tangible.

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Another thing, why do you always say everyone can breed together? No-one is saying differing races are a different species. There can be a huge range of characteristics within a species, both behaviourally and physically, see Canis Familiaris for an example.


They are all one species.  All humanity is one species.  Racists act as if the minor differences of skin melanin/eye shape/hair frizziness/nasal size/etc. matter and make a difference in the intelligence/behavior/etc.  They don't.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #161 - May 24th, 2025 at 10:35pm
 
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 7:51pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You ARE a moron.
You understand nothing.  Science, like all the things I listed, and much else besides, is socially constructed.

You are a moron. You do not comprehend even your own "argument".  Moron is overestimating you. You are a moronic, mindless fvkking troll.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I comprehend my own and your argument better than you do, Soren.  Time for you to catch up with the 21st century and give up your ideas about "Racism".  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #162 - May 25th, 2025 at 12:02am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 7:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Then why call people racist? If you can't demonstrate it, it's obviously not real and you are just wasting your time admonishing people for no reason or to just feel better about yourself.


"Racism" is a social construct and is acted on without proof of any kind as it's existence or it's effects.  People, ignorant people, act as if it is real and as the differences between peope actually exist and make a difference.  I am not claiming that it exists, fools like Soren are claiming it exists and it's effects are tangible.

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Another thing, why do you always say everyone can breed together? No-one is saying differing races are a different species. There can be a huge range of characteristics within a species, both behaviourally and physically, see Canis Familiaris for an example.


They are all one species.  All humanity is one species.  Racists act as if the minor differences of skin melanin/eye shape/hair frizziness/nasal size/etc. matter and make a difference in the intelligence/behavior/etc.  They don't.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You sure act on it as if it's real... If racism is a social construct and not real, why do you call people racist?
Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #163 - May 25th, 2025 at 12:08am
 
Setanta wrote on May 25th, 2025 at 12:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 7:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Then why call people racist? If you can't demonstrate it, it's obviously not real and you are just wasting your time admonishing people for no reason or to just feel better about yourself.


"Racism" is a social construct and is acted on without proof of any kind as it's existence or it's effects.  People, ignorant people, act as if it is real and as the differences between peope actually exist and make a difference.  I am not claiming that it exists, fools like Soren are claiming it exists and it's effects are tangible.

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Another thing, why do you always say everyone can breed together? No-one is saying differing races are a different species. There can be a huge range of characteristics within a species, both behaviourally and physically, see Canis Familiaris for an example.


They are all one species.  All humanity is one species.  Racists act as if the minor differences of skin melanin/eye shape/hair frizziness/nasal size/etc. matter and make a difference in the intelligence/behavior/etc.  They don't.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You sure act on it as if it's real... If racism is a social construct and not real, why do you call people racist?
Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Because People, ignorant people, act as if it is real .  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #164 - May 28th, 2025 at 8:58am
 
Racial differences, manifesting in behaviour and culture, are real. Everyone knows that.

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Reply #165 - May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 



Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.

You are shadow boxing with your own total misunderstanding and incomprehension, cockwomble.

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Reply #166 - May 28th, 2025 at 9:08am
 
Cockwobble supports Race WARS against Asia.
But with Race WARS against Africa (and it's servant like Islam) on the table now. He is in denial.
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Reply #167 - May 28th, 2025 at 9:41am
 
“You absolute hypocrites. A man gets arrested and within minutes you’re on air and online shouting ’53 year old White British man’ like it’s a public health warning. Not just a man. Not just a suspect. Not even “a Brit.” A white British man,” wrote one person in response to a Sky News report highlighting the description.

“Race front and centre as if it’s the real story. When the attacker’s not White, where’s the same energy? Where’s the description? Where’s the racial ID blasted out before the facts are in? Oh that’s right you bury it.”

“Remember when Merseyside Police described the Southport attacker as a Welsh Christian schoolboy, inferring that he was WHITE and BRITISH? They can’t get it out quick enough that the Liverpool attacker is actually WHITE and BRITISH. Disgusting,” read another popular post.

“This is horrendous. But why do the BBC/police immediately state ‘White British man’? Just minutes after the incident? Does anyone recall them ever stating ‘Asian man’ or ‘black man’ in similar circumstances? Thought not,” said TalkTV presenter Russell Quirk.
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Reply #168 - May 28th, 2025 at 5:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2025 at 12:08am:
Setanta wrote on May 25th, 2025 at 12:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 10:33pm:
Setanta wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 7:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren.  Racism has no scientific basis, something which you have agreed with.  Racism is purely a social construct, whereas Science is not.  Run along, back to your playpen, Soren, all you have done is demonstrate how lacking in understanding of how science works, you are.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Then why call people racist? If you can't demonstrate it, it's obviously not real and you are just wasting your time admonishing people for no reason or to just feel better about yourself.


"Racism" is a social construct and is acted on without proof of any kind as it's existence or it's effects.  People, ignorant people, act as if it is real and as the differences between peope actually exist and make a difference.  I am not claiming that it exists, fools like Soren are claiming it exists and it's effects are tangible.

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Another thing, why do you always say everyone can breed together? No-one is saying differing races are a different species. There can be a huge range of characteristics within a species, both behaviourally and physically, see Canis Familiaris for an example.


They are all one species.  All humanity is one species.  Racists act as if the minor differences of skin melanin/eye shape/hair frizziness/nasal size/etc. matter and make a difference in the intelligence/behavior/etc.  They don't.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You sure act on it as if it's real... If racism is a social construct and not real, why do you call people racist?
Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Because People, ignorant people, act as if it is real .  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Anti-white wacism is real.

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Bbwiyawnesque wanker:
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Mad bastards.
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Reply #169 - May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm
 
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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You are shadow boxing with your own total misunderstanding and incomprehension, cockwomble.


You lose the debate because of your automatic resorting to ad huminem insults.  It shows how infantile you are.  Not all like a real PhD holder.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #170 - May 28th, 2025 at 5:26pm
 
A foreign pro-Palestinian supporter yells at a German woman in Berlin:

“You’re a white person, you have no right to tell us what to do. White people should step the f*ck back.”

Why do these people think they own the countries they move to?

(Yes).

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Reply #171 - May 28th, 2025 at 5:34pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Grin Grin Grin Grin

You ARE really an simple little idiot, Bbwiyawn.  Of course science is a social construct, as is language, art, architecture, psychology, religion, engineering, history, sociology, politics, anthropology, etc, etc.

And you do not need science to demonstrate that something exists, you mentally negligible  little retard.
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Reply #172 - May 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm
 
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Grin Grin Grin Grin

You ARE really an simple little idiot, Bbwiyawn.  Of course science is a social construct, as is language, art, architecture, psychology, religion, engineering, history, sociology, politics, anthropology, etc, etc.

And you do not need science to demonstrate that something exists, you mentally negligible  little retard.


Oh, poor, poor, Soren, your world view is falling apart before your eyes.  Racism is a social construct, it has no science to back it, it purely constructed by fools like yourself who do not understand how Science works.  Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #173 - May 28th, 2025 at 8:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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You ARE really an simple little idiot, Bbwiyawn.  Of course science is a social construct, as is language, art, architecture, psychology, religion, engineering, history, sociology, politics, anthropology, etc, etc.

And you do not need science to demonstrate that something exists, you mentally negligible  little retard.


Oh, poor, poor, Soren, your world view is falling apart before your eyes.  Racism is a social construct, it has no science to back it, it purely constructed by fools like yourself who do not understand how Science works.  Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
Oh, poor, poor, Soren, your world view is falling apart before your eyes.  Racism is a social construct, it has no science to back it, it purely constructed by fools like yourself who do not understand how Science works.  Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Perhaps you could demonstrate the existence of this science thing you talk about for us.
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Reply #175 - May 28th, 2025 at 9:18pm
 
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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You ARE really an simple little idiot, Bbwiyawn.  Of course science is a social construct, as is language, art, architecture, psychology, religion, engineering, history, sociology, politics, anthropology, etc, etc.

And you do not need science to demonstrate that something exists, you mentally negligible  little retard.


Oh, poor, poor, Soren, your world view is falling apart before your eyes.  Racism is a social construct, it has no science to back it, it purely constructed by fools like yourself who do not understand how Science works.  Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #176 - May 28th, 2025 at 11:03pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:18pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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You ARE really an simple little idiot, Bbwiyawn.  Of course science is a social construct, as is language, art, architecture, psychology, religion, engineering, history, sociology, politics, anthropology, etc, etc.

And you do not need science to demonstrate that something exists, you mentally negligible  little retard.


Oh, poor, poor, Soren, your world view is falling apart before your eyes.  Racism is a social construct, it has no science to back it, it purely constructed by fools like yourself who do not understand how Science works.  Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Such a childish response, Soren.  All you have demonstrated is that you have lost the debate again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are a simple idiot, Bbwiyawn. You repeat inane crap and believe that repeting inane crap is an argument. You understand neither science, nor anything else you parrot.

"Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot." What a moronic, Bbwiyawnesque thing to say and then repeat. You accuse everyone of wacism but then say that the existence of wacism cannot be demonstrated.
You are impaired,  doddering, drooling, arse-seeping idiot, Bbwiyawn. You don't know from one sentence to the next what the bloody he'll you are talking about.

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Reply #177 - May 29th, 2025 at 1:51pm
 
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:18pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 8:12pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 5:19pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 9:02am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 6:14pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on May 24th, 2025 at 3:53pm:
That's enough retarded, Bbwiyawnesque twattery, bozo.


You have just demonstrated, once more, that you have lost the debate, Soren, with your childish resort to ad huminem insults.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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The Constitution IS in effect, HAS meaning today. It has not become meaningless because it was written before the Human Genome Project. Do you know why?  Because the HGP is irrelevant for the Constitution and specifically, for the meaning of race. Human relations -  personal, political, social, legal  - are not scientific, scientistic relations.

You are just moaning in your dim Twatterzone, as usual.


Now you have demonstrated that I am correct, Soren and you are incorrect.  "Race" is definitely without a scientific basis and is purely a social construct.  Well done, it seems you have admitted that you are wrong and that "Race" is a childish construction that should be left behind like all outmoded things.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You are not saying anything with any meaning content, twatwit.  Science itself, society, politics, art, literature, medicine, agriculture, computing, writing, folk songs, Morris dancing, Dreamtime, religion, Islam, Christianity, atheism - all social constructs on some level.


Science is demonstrable whereas Racism is not, Soren. 


Science itself is a social construct.  Racism is also demonstrable.


Spoken/typed like an ignoramus, Soren.  Science exists because it can be demonstrated to exist, Racism is a social construct that cannot be demonstrated except by non-scientists who do not understand science.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Grin Grin Grin Grin

You ARE really an simple little idiot, Bbwiyawn.  Of course science is a social construct, as is language, art, architecture, psychology, religion, engineering, history, sociology, politics, anthropology, etc, etc.

And you do not need science to demonstrate that something exists, you mentally negligible  little retard.


Oh, poor, poor, Soren, your world view is falling apart before your eyes.  Racism is a social construct, it has no science to back it, it purely constructed by fools like yourself who do not understand how Science works.  Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Such a childish response, Soren.  All you have demonstrated is that you have lost the debate again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are a simple idiot, Bbwiyawn. You repeat inane crap and believe that repeting inane crap is an argument. You understand neither science, nor anything else you parrot.

"Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot." What a moronic, Bbwiyawnesque thing to say and then repeat. You accuse everyone of wacism but then say that the existence of wacism cannot be demonstrated.
You are impaired,  doddering, drooling, arse-seeping idiot, Bbwiyawn. You don't know from one sentence to the next what the bloody he'll you are talking about.


Poor, poor, Soren, you are wasting your time with continual harping on about Racism. As I have already demonstrated numerous times, there is no major difference between the various human races, they are all of the one species, homo sapien sapiens, although I am having doubts about you with your Antediluvian ways of thinking.  Racism is purely a social construction, it rests on a falsehood that there are major differences between the various human races, something which was disproved by the Human Genome Project mapping of the human dna.  Time to grow up and admit your error and treat all humans as your brothers/sisters.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian is a pro terrorist and self hating racist with twilight pro nouns
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Troll zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #181 - May 30th, 2025 at 11:06am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 1:51pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
You are a simple idiot, Bbwiyawn. You repeat inane crap and believe that repeting inane crap is an argument. You understand neither science, nor anything else you parrot.

"Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot." What a moronic, Bbwiyawnesque thing to say and then repeat. You accuse everyone of wacism but then say that the existence of wacism cannot be demonstrated.
You are impaired,  doddering, drooling, arse-seeping idiot, Bbwiyawn. You don't know from one sentence to the next what the bloody hell you are talking about.


Poor, poor, Soren, you are wasting your time with continual harping on about Racism. As I have already demonstrated numerous times, there is no major difference between the various human races, they are all of the one species, homo sapien sapiens, although I am having doubts about you with your Antediluvian ways of thinking.  Racism is purely a social construction, it rests on a falsehood that there are major differences between the various human races, something which was disproved by the Human Genome Project mapping of the human dna.  Time to grow up and admit your error and treat all humans as your brothers/sisters.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Once more, slowly, Bbwiyawn:

In general - to say that something is a social construct rather than scientific truth is empty of meaning since science itself - like every other human endeavour - is a social construct. Scientific truths are social constructs. Language, meaning, connotation - all social constructs, undetectable in DNA.

In particular - humans do not relate to each other as impersonal bundles of DNA but as persons with particular physical, mental characteristics. Racial features, like age, sex, emotional disposition, intellect etc are readily perceived, read and interpreted and applied in every human encounter. No-one fails to register them in any encounter. They are real and relevant because they are registered and so value judgement is attached to them about persons and by persons. Not about or by DNA sequences. What that value judgement is in each case varies. Ethics, politics, sociology, anthropology are not about DNA but about the various ways values are attached to human characteristics, individuality and in groups. 
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Reply #182 - May 30th, 2025 at 2:35pm
 
Frank wrote on May 30th, 2025 at 11:06am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 29th, 2025 at 1:51pm:
Frank wrote on May 28th, 2025 at 11:03pm:
You are a simple idiot, Bbwiyawn. You repeat inane crap and believe that repeting inane crap is an argument. You understand neither science, nor anything else you parrot.

"Science can be demonstrated to exist, Racism cannot." What a moronic, Bbwiyawnesque thing to say and then repeat. You accuse everyone of wacism but then say that the existence of wacism cannot be demonstrated.
You are impaired,  doddering, drooling, arse-seeping idiot, Bbwiyawn. You don't know from one sentence to the next what the bloody hell you are talking about.


Poor, poor, Soren, you are wasting your time with continual harping on about Racism. As I have already demonstrated numerous times, there is no major difference between the various human races, they are all of the one species, homo sapien sapiens, although I am having doubts about you with your Antediluvian ways of thinking.  Racism is purely a social construction, it rests on a falsehood that there are major differences between the various human races, something which was disproved by the Human Genome Project mapping of the human dna.  Time to grow up and admit your error and treat all humans as your brothers/sisters.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Once more, slowly, Bbwiyawn:

In general - to say that something is a social construct rather than scientific truth is empty of meaning since science itself - like every other human endeavour - is a social construct. Scientific truths are social constructs. Language, meaning, connotation - all social constructs, undetectable in DNA.

In particular - humans do not relate to each other as impersonal bundles of DNA but as persons with particular physical, mental characteristics. Racial features, like age, sex, emotional disposition, intellect etc are readily perceived, read and interpreted and applied in every human encounter. No-one fails to register them in any encounter. They are real and relevant because they are registered and so value judgement is attached to them about persons and by persons. Not about or by DNA sequences. What that value judgement is in each case varies. Ethics, politics, sociology, anthropology are not about DNA but about the various ways values are attached to human characteristics, individuality and in groups. 


Racism is based on a false premise that different colour skin/large noses/thick lips/Epicanthic eye folds/frizzy hair all determine major physical differences and mentality between the various, "Races", hey, Soren?  The Human Genome Project proved that all false, based as it was on mistaken ideas about reality.  A reality that proves humans are all brothers/sisters, they are all members of the one Race, the Human one, homo sapien sapiens, even you, Soren.  You are related to African, Asian, Indigenous Australians, Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, etc. no matter how you deny it.  It is in your cells, your DNA, you are as African as all of us are.  All the other factors you name are social constructs, Soren.  Just as Racism is.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Twilight Zone.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Nothing whatsoever to do with the concepts espoused by Racism, Soren.  Keep scraping the bottom of the barrel, why don't you, you Racist.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 8:01pm:


So much for being Superior, hey, Soren?  Kicked him out of the train and nicked his jacket. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 8:01pm:


So much for being Superior, hey, Soren?  Kicked him out of the train and nicked his jacket. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Frank wrote on Jun 1st, 2025 at 8:01pm:


So much for being Superior, hey, Soren?  Kicked him out of the train and nicked his jacket. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

FAFO.


Excuses, excuses, hey, Soren?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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And what's your excuse twilight zone yawn?
Haven't got the intellect to compete, provide and debate?
Resorting to just troll posts of repetition as if you're trying to prove you've got a flush, when you've really got nothing.
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2024 at 3:02pm:
The title should actually be, "without scientific evidence" but forum limitations prevented me from being accurate.  Genetically there is more differences between individuals than between various "racial" groups, "Racism" is a social construct, something dreamed up by anthropologists to justify their classification of the various "racial" groups based on superficial differences in skin colour/eye shape/hair frizziness/nose shape/lip thickness/etc.  There are no major genetic differences between the various "races".  Humans can all interbreed.  The visible differences are because of environmental adaptation to conditions, nothing more.  It does not denote anything major Genetically. 

Genetics is the key, it is how we identify differences between groups of creatures, it is how we know a species is a species.  There is only one human species, the homo homo sapiens and we are all members.  Anything else is a social construct created by Racists.  Eugenics is dead and buried.  It was overturned by WWII and the destruction of the Nazi regime.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Reply #196 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 10:11pm
 
What is interesting, Soren, is that each of your examples only tells half the story, rather like you do.  Black people are ordinary people and if provoked attack their provokers.  You seem to be assuming that black people attack other people without provocation.  According to you, it's cause they are normally violent and aggressive.  A supposition made without proof.  Funny that, hey, Soren?  Amazing that perhaps people are being provoked, hey?  We could tell for sure if your clips lasted a few minutes longer and started a few minutes earlier. Of course they don't, 'cause it would prove that Racism, that mythical cultural construction created by Racists like you, had a hand in how some people react.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #197 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 10:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 10:11pm:
What is interesting, Soren, is that each of your examples only tells half the story, rather like you do.  Black people are ordinary people and if provoked attack their provokers.  You seem to be assuming that black people attack other people without provocation.  According to you, it's cause they are normally violent and aggressive.  A supposition made without proof.  Funny that, hey, Soren?  Amazing that perhaps people are being provoked, hey?  We could tell for sure if your clips lasted a few minutes longer and started a few minutes earlier. Of course they don't, 'cause it would prove that Racism, that mythical cultural construction created by Racists like you, had a hand in how some people react.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




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Reply #198 - Jun 11th, 2025 at 11:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 10:11pm:
What is interesting, Soren, is that each of your examples only tells half the story, rather like you do.  Black people are ordinary people and if provoked attack their provokers.  You seem to be assuming that black people attack other people without provocation.  According to you, it's cause they are normally violent and aggressive.  A supposition made without proof.  Funny that, hey, Soren?  Amazing that perhaps people are being provoked, hey?  We could tell for sure if your clips lasted a few minutes longer and started a few minutes earlier. Of course they don't, 'cause it would prove that Racism, that mythical cultural construction created by Racists like you, had a hand in how some people react.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Lovely. So if someone 'provokes' me I can go all black medieval savage on him.
You are very sophisticated, Bbwiyawn, I can see the Doctor of Divinity thinking right there.
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Reply #199 - Jun 12th, 2025 at 5:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 11:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 11th, 2025 at 10:11pm:
What is interesting, Soren, is that each of your examples only tells half the story, rather like you do.  Black people are ordinary people and if provoked attack their provokers.  You seem to be assuming that black people attack other people without provocation.  According to you, it's cause they are normally violent and aggressive.  A supposition made without proof.  Funny that, hey, Soren?  Amazing that perhaps people are being provoked, hey?  We could tell for sure if your clips lasted a few minutes longer and started a few minutes earlier. Of course they don't, 'cause it would prove that Racism, that mythical cultural construction created by Racists like you, had a hand in how some people react.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Lovely. So if someone 'provokes' me I can go all black medieval savage on him.
You are very sophisticated, Bbwiyawn, I can see the Doctor of Divinity thinking right there.



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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:20pm:


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It loads ok, differ.

Race is genetic = physical characteristics are passed on through DNA.

Culture is historical. You can assimilate into or resist culture. There is social mobility within cultures/societies, more in some, less in others. 

These are central aspects of every society, no use simply denying their very existence because you do not understand or find it ideologically unsound.
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Reply #203 - Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 8:11am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:20pm:


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It loads ok, differ.

Race is genetic = physical characteristics are passed on through DNA.


Really?  Then you should have no difficulty pointing to the DNA which produces these links, Soren?   What?  You can't?  Funny that, of course you'll suggest it is because of a scientific conspiracy.  You'll just have to try harder.  Perhaps it is because of those Chemtrails which are laid by secret government aircraft?  Who knows, hey, Soren?  What did your Nazi overlords tell you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #204 - Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 5:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 13th, 2025 at 8:11am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 9:15pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 12th, 2025 at 8:20pm:


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It loads ok, differ.

Race is genetic = physical characteristics are passed on through DNA.


Really?  Then you should have no difficulty pointing to the DNA which produces these links, Soren?   What?  You can't?  Funny that, of course you'll suggest it is because of a scientific conspiracy.  You'll just have to try harder.  Perhaps it is because of those Chemtrails which are laid by secret government aircraft?  Who knows, hey, Soren?  What did your Nazi overlords tell you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




So you think physical characteristics are not inherited through DNA?? Really?

How then?  Is there some other bio-chemical carrier of inherited traits and characteristics? Or is it all in the mind? Are we socially conditioned to notice that the Japanese look... er... Japanese?
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The Talk is a colloquial expression for a conversation black parents in the United States feel compelled to have with their children and teenagers about the dangers they face due to racism or unjust treatment from authority figures, law enforcement or other parties, and how to de-escalate them. The practice dates back generations and is often viewed as a rite of passage for black children.
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Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 5:56pm:
The Talk is a colloquial expression for a conversation black parents in the United States feel compelled to have with their children and teenagers about the dangers they face due to racism or unjust treatment from authority figures, law enforcement or other parties, and how to de-escalate them. The practice dates back generations and is often viewed as a rite of passage for black children.

John Derbyshire wrote, “Yes, talk about the talk is all over.” Under the headline, “The Talk: NonBlack Version,” he said, “There is a talk that non Black Americans have with their children, too. My own children, now 19 and 16, have had it in bits and pieces as subtopics have arisen. If I were to assemble it into a single talk, it would look something like the following.” He then listed a series of clearly racist and undocumented comments. Among them: The default principle in everyday personal encounters is, that as a fellow citizen, with the same rights and obligations as yourself, any individual Black is entitled to the same courtesies you would extend to a non-Black citizen.


That is basic good manners and good citizenship. In some unusual circumstances, however—e.g., paragraph (10h) below—this default principle should be overridden by considerations of personal safety. In consideration of personal safety, Derby-shire advises: Avoid concentrations of Blacks not all known to you personally; Stay out of heavily Black neighbor-hoods; If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with Blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot); Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of Blacks; If you are at some public event at which the number of Blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible; Do not settle in a district or municipality run by Black politicians; Before voting for a Black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a White; Do not act the Good Samaritan to Blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the high-way and if accosted by a strange Black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.

As you go through life, however, you will experience an ever larger number of encounters with Black Americans. Assuming your encounters are random—for example, not restrict-ed only to Black convicted murderers or to Black investment bankers—the Law of Large Numbers will inevitably kick in. You will observe that the means—the averages—of many traits are very different for Black and White Americans, as has been confirmed by methodical inquiries in the human sciences. Of most importance to your personal safety are the very different means for antisocial behavior, which you will see reflected in, for instance, school disciplinary measures, political corruption, and criminal convictions.

These differences are magnified by the hostility many Blacks feel toward Whites. Thus, while Black-on-Black behavior is more antisocial in the average than is White-on-White behavior, average Black-on-White behavior is a degree more antisocial yet.

A small cohort of Blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to Whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us. A much larger cohort of Blacks—around half—will go along passively if the five percent take leadership in some event. They will do this out of racial solidarity, the natural willingness of most human beings to be led, and a vague feeling that Whites have it coming.

The mean intelligence of Blacks is much lower than for Whites. The least intelligent ten percent of Whites have IQs below 81; forty percent of Blacks have IQs that low. Only one Black in six is more intelligent than the average White; five Whites out of six are more intelligent than the average Black…“Life is an IQ test.” There is a magnifying effect here, too, caused by affirmative action. In a pure meritocracy there would be very low proportions of Blacks in cognitively demanding jobs. Because of affirmative action, the proportions are higher. In government work, they are very high. Thus, in those encounters with strangers that involve cognitive engagement, ceteris paribus the Black stranger will be less intelligent than the White. In such encounters, therefore—for example, at a government office—you will, on average, be dealt with more competently by a White than by a Black.

Derbyshire ended his article by saying, “You don’t have to follow my version of the talk point for point; but if you are White or Asian and have kids, you owe it to them to give them some version of the talk. It will save them a lot of time and trouble spent figuring things out for themselves. It may save their lives.”
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A violent African criminal who was spared deportation and released from immigration detention has faced court accused of a brutal bashing that left a man fighting for life in Melbourne.

Zimbabwean immigrant Lominja Friday Yokoju, 43, who is among hundreds of violent criminals set free by Labor after a controversial court ruling, appeared in Melbourne Magistrate’s Court on Monday charged with intentionally cause serious injury.

Police allege Yokoju approached a 62-year-old man in the crime-ravaged suburb of Footscray at 10am on Sunday, struck him and stomped on his head while he was on the ground near the intersection on Nicholson and Paisley Streets.

A witness told The Age Australian Border Force officers on their way to update Yokoju’s ankle bracelet turned up to see the alleged attack in progress.

“The other guy kept stomping on the victim’s face and didn’t stop until the Australian Border Force happened to pass by and intervened,” the witness said.
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Reply #212 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:09pm
 
According to Soren, the noted legal expert, Albanese should have ignored the High Court's ruling on unlawful detention and kept Asylum Seekers incarcerated indefinitely without legal course being applied.  Soren, the greatest Legal Mind we have in Australia feels that the powers defined by the Constitution can be exceeded, despite what the High Court has decreed.  We should immediately elect Soren the Dictator of Australia, he'd clear up all our legal problems without a qualm, no matter what the High Court judges.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #213 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:15pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
According to Soren, the noted legal expert, Albanese should have ignored the High Court's ruling on unlawful detention and kept Asylum Seekers incarcerated indefinitely without legal course being applied.  Soren, the greatest Legal Mind we have in Australia feels that the powers defined by the Constitution can be exceeded, despite what the High Court has decreed.  We should immediately elect Soren the Dictator of Australia, he'd clear up all our legal problems without a qualm, no matter what the High Court judges.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Deport them.

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Fuck off.  Not a difficult concept.  Not even for retarded faggotry like you.



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When history is written as it ought to be written’, said the great Trinidadian Marxist CLR James, ‘it is the moderation and long patience of the masses at which men will wonder, not their ferocity’. On no historical calamity is this truer than the rape-gang scandal. When future scribes look back at this violent tear in the British social fabric, it is the forbearance of the public they will marvel over. It will dazzle them.

These vile prejudices were the fuel of this scandal

The spectre of public volatility has stalked this scandal from the start. The establishment’s irrational dread of the feral masses shaped its yellow-bellied decision-making. From the local officials who ‘shied away’ from discussing the ethnicity of the rapists to the commentariat that barked ‘far right!’ at any pleb who dared to utter the word ‘Muslim’, the great fear was always that truth might unleash savagery. We mustn’t openly discuss this, they told themselves, because the rabble will rampage.

Even now, following the publication of Baroness Casey’s stinging report on the failures of officialdom, angst about the throng swirls through polite society. A reporter asked Casey if she was worried that her findings might lead to ‘civil unrest’. Such terror grips the Home Office too. An insider says officials are quaking at the prospect of ‘civil unrest’ following Casey’s finding that foreign nationals make up a ‘significant proportion’ of current rape-gang investigations.

What a brilliant if bitter-tasting insight into the anti-masses bigotry of the technocrats that rule over us. They hear that undocumented arrivals are potentially involved in some of the sickest crimes imaginable and their first thought is: ‘Oh no, how will the white working classes respond?’ They fear ‘the gammon’ more than the groomers. The imaginary violence of the ‘low-information’ public causes them more sleepless nights than the real violence of the gangs of rapists.

It’s been like this for years. In political circles, in academia, in the media, far more alarm was expressed over the untamed masses than the gangs themselves. All their pious handwringing over the ‘racialisation’ of child abuse and the stirring up of ‘moral panics’ and the dangers of ‘inflammatory’ coverage was designed to dampen what they see as the rough, unruly passions of the little people. As recently as January this year, Health Secretary Wes Streeting was warning that ‘coarse’ discussion of the rape gangs might incite mass violence.

Bury the truth to tame the throng – that, for years, was the rallying cry of the establishment. And when the truth could no longer be contained, they called for coolness, restraint, decorous language only. In short, say nothing that might rile up the brutish multitude. We too often overlook this classist bigotry that shaped this outrage and shapes it still. A ruthless lack of care for the poor white girls who were raped and an outsized fear of what poor white men might do upon discovering the truth – these vile prejudices were the fuel of this scandal.

The irony was dark. They fretted over a ‘moral panic’ while stirring up their own moral panic about the turbulent lower orders. They pontificated about the dangers of bigotry while peddling their own bigoted view of ordinary people as so dim-minded and given to violence that they cannot even be trusted with the truth about what was done to the girls in their communities. They posed as righteous while sacrificing the safety and dignity of the poorest, most vulnerable girls at the altar of ideology.

It was one of the greatest inversions of truth our nation has ever seen. The calm, concerned masses were defamed as a violent whirlwind of bigoted passion, while the irrational elites falsely depicted themselves as paragons of good sense and virtue. What this horror really reveals is the spite and unreason of some in the ruling class, and the patient yearning for truth of ordinary people. The great prejudice of our age – that the people who rule Britain are experts and the people they rule over are fools – has been shattered on the wheels of this scandal.

In response to that query about the possibility that her findings will whip up ‘civil unrest’, Baroness Casey said: ‘If good people don’t grip difficult issues, in my experience bad people do.’ Britain has plenty of good people. They’re the ones who have known the truth about these gangs for years and who with great, peaceful sufferance pushed for the truth to come out. This ‘long patience of the masses’, this perseverance for truth in the face of ceaseless insults, is a credit to our nation. The wisdom of the crowd – let’s value it more.
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Reply #215 - Jun 17th, 2025 at 11:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
According to Soren, the noted legal expert, Albanese should have ignored the High Court's ruling on unlawful detention and kept Asylum Seekers incarcerated indefinitely without legal course being applied.  Soren, the greatest Legal Mind we have in Australia feels that the powers defined by the Constitution can be exceeded, despite what the High Court has decreed.  We should immediately elect Soren the Dictator of Australia, he'd clear up all our legal problems without a qualm, no matter what the High Court judges.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Deport them.

Not hard if you want to do it.

bugger off.  Not a difficult concept.  Not even for retarded faggotry like you.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Soren, despite his legal expertise, has forgotten that the High Court has decreed that is extremely difficult if they are already citizen and unless of course, their own countries are willing or able to accept them.  The Government tried that trick and found that they didn't have the legal power to do it, Soren.  What a shame, you are betrayed by your lack of legal expertise once again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #216 - Jun 18th, 2025 at 12:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 11:09pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 17th, 2025 at 10:09pm:
According to Soren, the noted legal expert, Albanese should have ignored the High Court's ruling on unlawful detention and kept Asylum Seekers incarcerated indefinitely without legal course being applied.  Soren, the greatest Legal Mind we have in Australia feels that the powers defined by the Constitution can be exceeded, despite what the High Court has decreed.  We should immediately elect Soren the Dictator of Australia, he'd clear up all our legal problems without a qualm, no matter what the High Court judges.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Deport them.

Not hard if you want to do it.

bugger off.  Not a difficult concept.  Not even for retarded faggotry like you.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me, poor, poor, Soren, despite his legal expertise, has forgotten that the High Court has decreed that is extremely difficult if they are already citizen and unless of course, their own countries are willing or able to accept them.  The Government tried that trick and found that they didn't have the legal power to do it, Soren.  What a shame, you are betrayed by your lack of legal expertise once again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Needless to say, you completely misunderstand the situation.  It turns on detainees, who are not owed protection, agreeing to their deportation. Those who do not agree CAN be detained indefinitely if their own country does not accept forced returns of their citizens.


https://www.hrlc.org.au/case-summaries/2024-05-28-high-court-ruling-in-asf17-v-c...


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The High Court unanimously dismissed the appeal, finding that the Commonwealth’s continued detention of ASF17 was lawful. 

Six justices (Gageler CJ, Gordon, Steward, Gleeson, Jagot and Beech-Jones JJ) delivered a joint judgment concluding that detention which is continuing because of a voluntary decision of the person detained cannot be characterised as penal or punitive.

In applying the test set out in NZYQ, the majority held that for removal to be practicable, there must first be a country to which the person can be removed, and their removal to that country must be permissible under the Migration Act. Section 197C of the Act does not permit the involuntary removal of a person for whom a “protection finding” has been made under the Act, to the country where they are at risk of harm. But for anyone else who does not already have an established protection finding, the question of whether or not they are owed protection obligations is irrelevant to the duty to remove them.10 The statutory consequence is that for a person such as ASF17, a fear of harm is insufficient to preclude removal, irrespective of whether that claim might be genuine or well-founded.

Once a removal country is identified, the question is then whether there are practically available steps which, if taken, can realistically be predicted to result in removal. Those steps may include administrative processes requiring a person’s cooperation. Those steps remain practically available even if a person refuses to take them.

The majority considered that the concept of a ‘good reason’ for refusing to cooperate, as expressed in the earlier case of Plaintiff M47, was directed to whether non-cooperation could be explained by incapacity by reason of, for example, any medical condition or mental illness. The critical consideration in that case was whether it was within the person’s power to cooperate.

It had been conceded at trial that ASF17’s cooperation with the process of obtaining a travel document was the only barrier to his removal to Iran. In circumstances in which ASF17 had the capacity to change his mind and obtain a travel document, but had chosen not to do so, the majority found that the constitutional limit on detention had not been exceeded.
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A man has died in hospital six days after he was allegedly brutally bashed and stomped on by a released African immigration detainee in the crime-ravaged Melbourne suburb of Footscray.

Dominic O’Brien, 62, was taken to hospital on Sunday with critical injuries suffered in the unprovoked alleged attack by Zimbabwean man Lominja Friday Yokoju, 43, who was among hundreds of criminal immigrants spared deportation by Labor after a controversial court ruling in 2023.

Mr O’Brien was a photographer for major media publications around Australia and said on social media that he worked for the Gundjeihmi Aboriginal Corporation in the Northern Territory.

Yokoju was charged with intentionally cause serious injury, but Victoria Police said on Saturday that investigators will consider alternate charges following the results of a post-mortem.

Police allege Yokoju approached Mr O’Brien at 10am on June 15, struck him, and stomped on his head while he was on the ground near the intersection on Nicholson and Paisley Streets.



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Chinese and Indian immigrants in Australia are having more sons than daughters, raising alarm over gender-based abortions.

Sex is strongly skewed male among Australian babies born to migrants from cultures that historically prize men over women, Edith Cowan University researchers have discovered in a new study published in the Global Public Health journal.

Mothers born in Australia, Britain and New Zealand had children within the expected natural range of 105 boys for every 100 girls, the researchers found, but mothers born in China and India were far more likely to deliver boys, based on analysis of 2.1 million births in NSW and Western Australia between 1994 and 2015.

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