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Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 8:15am

German farmers have had enough. On Monday 15 January 2024, thousands of tractors and tens of thousands of Germans descended on Berlin – capping off a week of protests in which farmers blocked roads and brought life to a standstill across the country. The demonstration was sparked by government plans to abolish tax breaks on agricultural diesel and bring in new taxes on farm vehicles. But it’s also so much deeper than that. Farmers are furious with green ideology, with being made to pay the price for the government’s lofty climate goals. And they’re furious with being demonised as extremists simply for standing up for their livelihoods. spiked went to Berlin to meet the people behind Europe’s latest populist revolt. Watch, share and let us know what you think in the comments.

https://www.spiked-online.com/video/the-german-farmers-revolt/

Green-Left fanatical extermism is wide-spread, it is inside governments and bureaocracies in Europe and here and is far, far more damaging and toxic than any resistance to it, which is reflexively and immediaely labels any criticism r resistance as 'far-right'.

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Reply #1 - Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 8:36am

I have nothing wrong with the Environmental desire to improve the world and keep the 'natural' environment alive as well. It is justified.

But since it began. It has been hijacked and corrupted by the Political Left as nothing more than a $$racket! To replace Coal Refineries in America with processing of natural (Bio) trees (needed at twice the demand to meet the same output) - shows how pathetic and corrupt this Green movement has been turned into.
It's right up there with Rudd tricking Peter Garret into the ALP just so he can put him in a small room and twiddle his fingers as no longer a threat.
That's exactly what the Political Left have done with this well intentioned Environmental endeavour since the 70's when it really looked like it might be beneficial to 'all' people.

But the 90's saw it 'corrupted' by the USA Political system to meet its own 'selfish' goals. What was once a sincere effort to improve the world, was turned into a farcical mockery of short-term Enterprise that had no intention to improve the world but to exploit the Environmental theme as a marketing tool.

I totally support the European Farmers and most farmers around the world who have also been screwed over, besides the sincere and conservative Environmentalists who have come out looking totally stupid by all this and all the Lefty Loonies who have jumped on the bandwagon like the 'help' that was never needed or asked for.

You know it is wrong when both Farmers and Environmentalists have come out the Losers by the Political Left control of it all.

One day, there will be a Region of the World that will stand up for all this, without the need to 'sell out' to Political America to fund it. Ironic that the 'people of the Lands' have 'sold out' to the very Culture that has caused the damage in the first place. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 10:14pm

Blood and soil, old chap, it had to happen.

The landed Volksgemeinshaft are one of the more bloated species of Kraut in existence. The past few decades of farm subsidies have seen to that.

They're nearly as bad as the Americans, but there, agricultural policies favour the fat cats, the corporates. Small farmers in the states have a legitimate axe to grind.

The Krauts still have burghers: humourless, over-indulged tillers who don't like hearing no.

Your implicit question is will they join in on your little national/socialist populist tantrum?

My guess is no. Krauts might be Krauts, but they're also fairly sensible Protestants. They won't cop your krap. They see good business in open borders, cheap Eastern European labour and European trade. It all runs their way, no?

And yes, they see the ever-increasing harm caused by global warming. They also benefit hugely from green subsidies, wind farming and carbon offsets.

Krauts don't have another thing: News Ltd. Alas, this is a disease of the English-speaking nations. German media is, on the whole, fact-based and rather sensible.

Sure they have the internet. But for now, this is counterweighted by fairly good education. All German school kids are trotted through Dachau and Belsen as a right of passage. Remember this, they're told. This is what happens when you worship Dear Leaders.

Sorry, old boy, I'm not seeing it. Germany will not be going your way anytime soon.

You might be half-Kraut, but you're an abberation.

How does it feel?

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Reply #3 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 11:07pm

Big Donger wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Blood and soil, old chap, it had to happen.

The landed Volksgemeinshaft are one of the more bloated species of Kraut in existence. The past few decades of farm subsidies have seen to that.

They're nearly as bad as the Americans, but there, agricultural policies favour the fat cats, the corporates. Small farmers in the states have a legitimate axe to grind.

The Krauts still have burghers: humourless, over-indulged tillers who don't like hearing no.

Your implicit question is will they join in on your little national/socialist populist tantrum?

My guess is no. Krauts might be Krauts, but they're also fairly sensible Protestants. They won't cop your krap. They see good business in open borders, cheap Eastern European labour and European trade. It all runs their way, no?

And yes, they see the ever-increasing harm caused by global warming. They also benefit hugely from green subsidies, wind farming and carbon offsets.

Krauts don't have another thing: News Ltd. Alas, this is a disease of the English-speaking nations. German media is, on the whole, fact-based and rather sensible.

Sure they have the internet. But for now, this is counterweighted by fairly good education. All German school kids are trotted through Dachau and Belsen as a right of passage. Remember this, they're told. This is what happens when you worship Dear Leaders.

Sorry, old boy, I'm not seeing it. Germany will not be going your way anytime soon.

You might be half-Kraut, but you're an abberation.

How does it feel?

Stupid, ignorant nonsense, as usual.

Farmers across Europe are protesting against taxes on fuel and green regulations. The fury has led to road blockages and tractor parades in the past few weeks, with farmers taking their protests to the streets in France, Germany, Poland and Romania, after the Netherlands earlier. FRANCE 24's Pierre Benazet reports from Brussels.

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240123-farmers-protest-across-europe-against...

And then Geert Wilders won the most votes in the Netherlands in November

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Reply #4 - Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 11:30pm

Jasin wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2024 at 8:36am:

I have nothing wrong with the Environmental desire to improve the world and keep the 'natural' environment alive as well. It is justified......

'MAN MADE CLIMATE CHANGE'

If 1/ aircraft stream vast swarms of aluminium particulates high up in the sky,
and then 'we' 2/ irradiate those aluminium particulates with microwave beams
[i.e. energy] [from ground based HAARP sites],
then the atmosphere - IN WHICH WE LIVE - will heat up.

We can legitimately call this result: Man made Global Warming.

irradiate = = expose to radiation.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

WWW search......
energy from ground based HAARP sites

Quote:

HAARP, the most powerful ionosphere heater on Earth

When stimulated with high-intensity radio waves, the ionosphere responds with baffling and beautiful displays.
Todd Pedersen

https://pubs.aip.org/physicstoday/article/68/12/72/415022/HAARP-the-most-powerfu
l-ionosphere-heater-on

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Reply #5 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 8:34am

Big Donger wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Blood and soil, old chap, it had to happen.

The landed Volksgemeinshaft are one of the more bloated species of Kraut in existence. The past few decades of farm subsidies have seen to that.

Reflex stupidity and ignorant bollocks from pantaloon sniffing wee pakistani.

The farming protests – calling on the government to cut regulations and taxes and ensure better prices for produce – have presented Emmanuel Macron’s newly appointed prime minister, Gabriel Attal, with his first major headache, as convoys of tractors continued to block key roads across France on Tuesday and farmers held demonstrations in towns.

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Reply #6 - Jan 24^th, 2024 at 9:05am

Karnal reminds me of LTYC (Chimera) in that both can't give a coherent straight ordered form of communication.
It's as if being the same to 'us' on that level, is beneath them.
I barely read anything from Karnal as it is mostly just gibberish to his own amusement that has no real meaning or entertainment value to other people reading it.

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Reply #7 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 12:34am

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 11:07pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Blood and soil, old chap, it had to happen.

The landed Volksgemeinshaft are one of the more bloated species of Kraut in existence. The past few decades of farm subsidies have seen to that.

They're nearly as bad as the Americans, but there, agricultural policies favour the fat cats, the corporates. Small farmers in the states have a legitimate axe to grind.

The Krauts still have burghers: humourless, over-indulged tillers who don't like hearing no.

Your implicit question is will they join in on your little national/socialist populist tantrum?

My guess is no. Krauts might be Krauts, but they're also fairly sensible Protestants. They won't cop your krap. They see good business in open borders, cheap Eastern European labour and European trade. It all runs their way, no?

And yes, they see the ever-increasing harm caused by global warming. They also benefit hugely from green subsidies, wind farming and carbon offsets.

Krauts don't have another thing: News Ltd. Alas, this is a disease of the English-speaking nations. German media is, on the whole, fact-based and rather sensible.

Sure they have the internet. But for now, this is counterweighted by fairly good education. All German school kids are trotted through Dachau and Belsen as a right of passage. Remember this, they're told. This is what happens when you worship Dear Leaders.

Sorry, old boy, I'm not seeing it. Germany will not be going your way anytime soon.

You might be half-Kraut, but you're an abberation.

How does it feel?

Stupid, ignorant nonsense, as usual.

Farmers across Europe are protesting against taxes on fuel and green regulations. The fury has led to road blockages and tractor parades in the past few weeks, with farmers taking their protests to the streets in France, Germany, Poland and Romania, after the Netherlands earlier. FRANCE 24's Pierre Benazet reports from Brussels.

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240123-farmers-protest-across-europe-against...

And then Geert Wilders won the most votes in the Netherlands in November

It may have slipped your attention, dear boy, but farmers across Europe live in different states and are motivated by different economic motives.

I'm not aware of Geert Wilders campaigning on any agricultural policies. The focus of his party and campaign was most narrow. He blames Islam.

So, whatabout that?

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Reply #8 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 12:36am

Jasin wrote on Jan 24^th, 2024 at 9:05am:

Karnal reminds me of LTYC (Chimera) in that both can't give a coherent straight ordered form of communication.
It's as if being the same to 'us' on that level, is beneath them.
I barely read anything from Karnal as it is mostly just gibberish to his own amusement that has no real meaning or entertainment value to other people reading it.

Sounds like JaSin wants to discuss European agricultural policies too, dear chap.

Would you like to bring him back on track, or shall I?

I've a bone in my bag if that helps.

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Reply #9 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 10:09am

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25^th, 2024 at 12:34am:

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 11:07pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2024 at 10:14pm:

Blood and soil, old chap, it had to happen.

The landed Volksgemeinshaft are one of the more bloated species of Kraut in existence. The past few decades of farm subsidies have seen to that.

They're nearly as bad as the Americans, but there, agricultural policies favour the fat cats, the corporates. Small farmers in the states have a legitimate axe to grind.

The Krauts still have burghers: humourless, over-indulged tillers who don't like hearing no.

Your implicit question is will they join in on your little national/socialist populist tantrum?

My guess is no. Krauts might be Krauts, but they're also fairly sensible Protestants. They won't cop your krap. They see good business in open borders, cheap Eastern European labour and European trade. It all runs their way, no?

And yes, they see the ever-increasing harm caused by global warming. They also benefit hugely from green subsidies, wind farming and carbon offsets.

Krauts don't have another thing: News Ltd. Alas, this is a disease of the English-speaking nations. German media is, on the whole, fact-based and rather sensible.

Sure they have the internet. But for now, this is counterweighted by fairly good education. All German school kids are trotted through Dachau and Belsen as a right of passage. Remember this, they're told. This is what happens when you worship Dear Leaders.

Sorry, old boy, I'm not seeing it. Germany will not be going your way anytime soon.

You might be half-Kraut, but you're an abberation.

How does it feel?

Stupid, ignorant nonsense, as usual.

Farmers across Europe are protesting against taxes on fuel and green regulations. The fury has led to road blockages and tractor parades in the past few weeks, with farmers taking their protests to the streets in France, Germany, Poland and Romania, after the Netherlands earlier. FRANCE 24's Pierre Benazet reports from Brussels.

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20240123-farmers-protest-across-europe-against...

And then Geert Wilders won the most votes in the Netherlands in November

It may have slipped your attention, dear boy, but farmers across Europe live in different states and are motivated by different economic motives.

I'm not aware of Geert Wilders campaigning on any agricultural policies. The focus of his party and campaign was most narrow. He blames Islam.

So, whatabout that?

It might help you - or it might not wee sniffer - if occasionally you looked at the counterpoints you are presented with, rather than just carrying on blightly, listening only to the voices in your own head.

The headline of the article from the france24 link I gave:
Farmers across Europe protest against fuel taxes, EU regulations

Indeed, all articles diiscussing the farmers' protests across Europe recognise and acknowledge that the source of the national regulations is, as always in large scale policies, the EU ukaze.

Dutch farmers protest government's agricultural policy
March 2023
Dutch politician Geert Wilders and the leader of the Forum for Democracy party, Thierry Baudet, addressed the demonstration.

Alongside Van der Plas, Wybren van Haga of Belang van Nederland, Geert Wilders of the Party for Freedom, Thierry Baudet of Forum for Democracy, and Roelof Bisschop of the Reformed Political Party had also been invited to speak to the protesters, while representatives of the ruling coalition parties were expressly not.

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Reply #10 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 1:09pm

Oh look, old boy. You're right.

Quote:

The Netherlands was a bit of a harbinger when it comes to these protests,” said Léonie de Jonge, a political scientist at the University of Groningen who studies the far right. “This is the new kind of agrarian populism popping up in these countries.”

Conspiracy theories have even spread from rural farms in northern Europe to cable TV shows in the US to social media feeds around the world. Last Monday, Dutch political pundit Eva Vlaardingerbroek joined farmers on a tractor in Germany to rail against “the global elites waging a war against the hard-working people who put food on our tables”.

In an interview with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson last year, Vlaardingerbroek pushed a popular conspiracy theory by claiming that groups like the World Economic Forum are trying to make Dutch people eat bugs by cracking down on farms and opening insect factories. The YouTube clip – titled “Politicians know when they control the food, they control the people: Activist” – has been viewed more than half a million times. “We don’t want to be eating insects, we want our steak,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/15/why-europe-farmers-are-prote...

You people are corrupting the farmers.

And what could be a more corruptible group of people than the grondbezit, privileged agrarian socialists fueled by years of free subsidies?

Now I don't think it's too unfair to put an environmental quid pro quote on those subsidies, tsk tsk tsk, but that's just me. Farm nicely, you get lots of Euros.

Destroy our land, waterways and air with your nitrogen and your phosphates and your fuel emissions and you get a little less. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Of course, I haven't been watching Tucker to keep up with the latest political spin.

You?

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Reply #12 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 1:58pm

JC Denton wrote on Jan 25^th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

sucks to be a .. german farmer.. i guess

Not when you've got all that land - to farm energy.

https://www.theenergymix.com/community-wind-farm-earns-support-generates-income-...

It's a bit harder when you've got foreigners like Tucker sticking their noses in, but you get that.

Tucker had a few things to day about Brexit too, and look how that's going.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/22/uk-fruit-exports-to-eu-have-dro...

Still, they've just negotiated a subsidy program for British farmers - to compensate them for what they lost from the EU. Strange, UK subsidies are tied to how well you care for the land too - just like Europe.

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/brexit-farming-subsidies-uk-ba...

Needless to say, the farmers are complaining. Remember the promises that Brexit would save Brits from paying all those nasty EU fees?

Now those fees must come from Mother's purse, agricultural exports to Europe are down by as much as 50% and you still have to meet the EU's regulations to sell your goods there.

Thanks, Tucker. Thanks, Rupert and thank you, dear boy.

You successfully berated Mother into the biggest economic disaster since the introduction of the Corn Laws.

Shurely shome mishtake, no?

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Reply #13 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 4:29pm

Big Donger wrote on Jan 25^th, 2024 at 1:58pm:

JC Denton wrote on Jan 25^th, 2024 at 1:22pm:

sucks to be a .. german farmer.. i guess

Not when you've got all that land - to farm energy.

https://www.theenergymix.com/community-wind-farm-earns-support-generates-income-...

It's a bit harder when you've got foreigners like Tucker sticking their noses in, but you get that.

Tucker had a few things to day about Brexit too, and look how that's going.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/22/uk-fruit-exports-to-eu-have-dro...

Still, they've just negotiated a subsidy program for British farmers - to compensate them for what they lost from the EU. Strange, UK subsidies are tied to how well you care for the land too - just like Europe.

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/brexit-farming-subsidies-uk-ba...

Needless to say, the farmers are complaining. Remember the promises that Brexit would save Brits from paying all those nasty EU fees?

Now those fees must come from Mother's purse, agricultural exports to Europe are down by as much as 50% and you still have to meet the EU's regulations to sell your goods there.

Thanks, Tucker. Thanks, Rupert and thank you, dear boy.

You successfully berated Mother into the biggest economic disaster since the introduction of the Corn Laws.

Shurely shome mishtake, no?

Oh?? So all those farmers in Germany, France, Holland are protesting AGAINST Tucker Carlton and FOR EU regulations and WEF-inspired policies?

Your idea, wee pantaloon sniffer?
Sounds like it.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Far Left extremism Reply #14 - Jan 25^th, 2024 at 4:53pm So let me see if I get this right: Far left extremisim : people advocating for a healthier climate Far right extremism : people trying to overthrow an elected govt. and hang the vice president I can tell that sorends on a winner with this one
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