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Jan 4th, 2024 at 8:25pm
 
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Reply #1 - Jan 4th, 2024 at 8:53pm
 
It's the SSN purchase that's getting all the publicity but AUKUS is much more than that. It's an unprecedented sharing of knowledge and resources that has made some of the more militant and expansionist states take notice, which is where much of the criticism of this treaty originates from.
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Reply #2 - Jan 4th, 2024 at 9:33pm
 
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Reply #3 - Jan 5th, 2024 at 11:29am
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 5th, 2024 at 1:56pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 5th, 2024 at 11:29am:

The US want more money?
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Reply #6 - Jan 11th, 2024 at 2:56pm
 
I recently had the chance to ask a very expensive bit of AI gear some simple questions and the replies were so far off the mark as to be worrying.
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Reply #7 - Jan 15th, 2024 at 4:40pm
 
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Reply #8 - Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:13pm
 
It has been rumored that New Zealand defence minister is meeting her Australian counterpart on Thursday and reports are New Zealand will formally request to join Pillar 2 of AUKUS. Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:45pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:13pm:
It has been rumored that New Zealand defence minister is meeting her Australian counterpart on Thursday and reports are New Zealand will formally request to join Pillar 2 of AUKUS. Roll Eyes


This is a short description of P2

" According to the bureaucratic language of the AUKUS announcement, the purpose of Pillar Two is to “enhance our joint capabilities and interoperability.” Yet the scope of the original agreement was massive, covering “cyber capabilities, artificial intelligence, quantum technologies, and additional undersea capabilities.” A few months later, four more areas were added to these “advanced capabilities:” hypersonic and counter-hypersonic capabilities, EW, innovation, and information sharing.”

So, once again, the Kiwis want to buy into every one elses’ research and development at the smallest cost.   AUKUS is the primary platform for the development, acquisition, operation, maintenance and disposal of Australia’s nuclear submarine capability.   We are led to believe that may lead to a common UK, AUS,US boat.  NZ will most probably never allow nuclear submarines in it’s territorial waters, let alone acquire them.  They wangled themselves into "5 eyes” now they want to play with the big boys for the lowest cost possible.    

Please say “NO” would be my message to our Defence Minister.  We cannot afford NZ out of our budgets
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Reply #10 - Feb 1st, 2024 at 8:16pm
 
Vic wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:45pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 1st, 2024 at 5:13pm:
It has been rumored that New Zealand defence minister is meeting her Australian counterpart on Thursday and reports are New Zealand will formally request to join Pillar 2 of AUKUS. Roll Eyes


This is a short description of P2

" According to the bureaucratic language of the AUKUS announcement, the purpose of Pillar Two is to “enhance our joint capabilities and interoperability.” Yet the scope of the original agreement was massive, covering “cyber capabilities, artificial intelligence, quantum technologies, and additional undersea capabilities.” A few months later, four more areas were added to these “advanced capabilities:” hypersonic and counter-hypersonic capabilities, EW, innovation, and information sharing.”

So, once again, the Kiwis want to buy into every one elses’ research and development at the smallest cost.   AUKUS is the primary platform for the development, acquisition, operation, maintenance and disposal of Australia’s nuclear submarine capability.   We are led to believe that may lead to a common UK, AUS,US boat.  NZ will most probably never allow nuclear submarines in it’s territorial waters, let alone acquire them.  They wangled themselves into "5 eyes” now they want to play with the big boys for the lowest cost possible.    

Please say “NO” would be my message to our Defence Minister.  We cannot afford NZ out of our budgets


Exactly, and given the Kiwis way too cosy relationship with the PRC they should be kept well out of AUKUS and any other significant  military cooperation.
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Reply #11 - Feb 2nd, 2024 at 2:40pm
 
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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2024 at 2:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2024 at 2:40pm:


Not a good idea. New Zealand has little to contribute technically and the anti nuclear agenda and relationship with the PRC makes them too great a risk.
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Reply #13 - Feb 6th, 2024 at 5:06pm
 
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Reply #14 - Feb 12th, 2024 at 2:03pm
 
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