Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 6:14pm:


Yes, "my conception of the world" defines 'personal responsibility'  the same way as google does. 

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No; everyone is a unique individual dealing with unique socio economic circumstances, SOME OF WHICH are outside the individual's  control  - eg the idiot Oz central-banker Bullock is deliberately trying to force some individuals onto the unemployment scrap heap (- exactly where she herself belongs...)


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All answered above. For my part I avoid the junk consumer economy like the plague -  most fulfil their role as unaware, obediant little consumers  (lied to by self-interested, profit-seeking  junk advertising)  heading to sickness and an early death. 

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Refuted above; you should wait for the reply before you make a gratuitous comment like that. 

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 8:18am:


You're advocating for segregation in 2024.

It's not a white flag, there is simply no way to hold any rational discussion with someone such as yourself.

aquascoot wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 7:31pm:

Class struggle = victim narrative = Marxism.

The victimhood wheeze is a very well developed apparatus of thinking, talking, perceiving etc. There is no relinquishing it because then identity is relinquished. Victimhood is not an add-on, it is the core.

thegreatdivide wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 12:12pm:


So everything is completely out of everyone's hands because nobody choses his parents! 

And that is the foundation of your world view. Everything is an accident, some accidents are lucky, others not.

But even that judgement, the ability to make YOUR judgement, is entirely based on chance, on your parents, who in turn were entirely dependent on the luck or otherwise of their parents. It is all an gigantic game of chance, all judgements are based on random backgrounds. Nothing can be said to be better or worse because that very value judgement is the random product of family background. YOUR own views are nothing but the product of your background so they carry no weight. They are random, li k e everything else.

You are an idiot, according to my background.

Well, what IS exempt from the random chance of "I didn't choose my parents"?


What is exempt from 'everything" and "completely" if your views are subject to random backgrounds and parents?

thegreatdivide wrote on May 27^th, 2024 at 3:14pm:

You didn't choose your parents, so they were random FOR YOU. Being entirely a product of your random circumstances, nothing is your choice, not even your support for the CCP, MMT, nothing. You do not have any individual autonomy, agency, choice.

You are entirely conditioned by your background and things around that you have no power to alter since there is no 'you' only a subject of random outside influences, themselves nothing but effects of other random influences.

You are mere frog's leg, twitching reflexively to electric impulses.

An idiot, in a word.

You, very idiotically, argue against personal responsibility on the basis that you didn't choose your parents, your background or theirs, your circumstances or theirs.

So what  IS of your own making about you?  What falls outside your deterministic conception,outside your accidental, random parenthood, background, circumstances,? What is left to your own personal  - individual! - powers and choices and decisions?

SadKangaroo wrote on May 26^th, 2024 at 7:17pm:


Not at all - I'm just agreeing with Michael Mansell - another white Aborigine - and that huge Tarneen sheila bloated on three Wharte Man jobs from Melbadishu, who are saying they should have an Aboriginal state where they can do their own things... I'm just happy to offer them a separate Two State (Three if you include Politico Island) solution, where on the one hand they can as per their demand 'do things their way' - and on the other we can do things our way.

No problem... no segregation about it since we would not be living in the same land .....they have their own and we have ours... and it's voluntary anyway unless and until one or them plays up too much - those who choose to remain Australians BE Australians (Ausraelis) - those who choose to be Abestinians choose to be Abestinians and responsible for themselves and their own outcomes.... those who act up in the traces and cause problems are shipped to Abestine and left to their 'elders' and local laws.... as is happening in some parts of Ausrael right now behind our backs..... and that doesn't even include the far outback places that nobody wants to visit anyway.....

You'll get there one day....

YOUR kind are the segregationists..... you are the Nazis .... you demand the segregation of separate but equal but only as long as your pets receive all benefits and more of our ways and get to swim in the sea of Wharte Man's benefits and civilisation while contributing nothing positive to that ...............I'm just the voice of reason in the middle of the range ....  Mansell of course envisages the very best seafront land for HIS idea of a state....

When was the last time you saw an Abo take out a franchise on a MacFries or similar and make something of self?

Ask yourself this - if the 'missions' and 'reservations' were such a disaster for them - why does Arnhem Land remain as a 'reservation'?   A.  because THEY want it that way!!

Maybe I'll look at AL as Abestine etc... same crocs and such and right there ready to go  .... and Farencue could be retained for a Cape Canaveral of the future .... no need to pay royalties there then ....