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Orion Capsule Return To Earth Fake News.
Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:25am
 
     Lollipop Meaning: large or flat round boiled sweet on end of stick. I state objects returning to earth accelerated by the gravity of earth (in the example of Orion capsule reaching earth’s atmosphere at speeds of 40,000 kilometres per hour returning from the moon) will be drawn to the centre of earth, the strongest point of gravity influences on objects approaching earth and any other planet.

     The course direction gravity has on objects ‘what goes up must come down’ is likened to a stick in a lollipop candy.

     Rocket engine propulsion doesn’t work in relation to pushing against zero atmosphere as outer-space has no atmosphere for rocket engine exhausts to push against.

     When being shown space capsules returning to earth from the moon, image diagrams show spacecraft capsules entering earth’s orbit doing an orbit around earth before being slowed down by earth’s atmosphere.

     Another issue is that speeds of 40,000 km/h 25,000 miles per hour would be far too fast to hold earth’s orbit which to hold in earth’s orbit is something like 14,700 miles per hour.

     What would happen at 25,000 miles per hour are capsules would pass earth continuing out in to space maybe travelling out into space as far as 240,000 miles from earth the same distance from earth as the moons orbit around earth.

     I have stated to several people rocket engines don’t work in no atmosphere space, that only ejecting weighted materials influences opposite directs from craft doing the ejecting of weighted materials. Exampling a cannon ball being the weighted material the cannon recoil being the influenced spacecraft direction. As spacecraft don’t seem to carry much weighted materials making direction adjustments must be made a long time before reaching required destinations. Exampling I heard it takes 30 minutes for spacecraft docking with the international space station after entering orbit. The time taken to adjust direction.

     I heard from 2 people “rocket engines push against themselves” the statement left them satisfied they were clever to escape feeling dumb for not knowing how to reply to my statement “rocket engines don’t work in no atmosphere space”.

     Spacecraft attempting to enter: the moon’s orbit; Mars orbit; that of any other planet’s orbit… would be drawn to that planet’s surface due to planet’s gravity which reaches far out into outer-space, spacecraft finally crashing on planet’s surface with extreme accelerated force.

     Human ability to believe easily trusted information supplied by religious leaders’ lies about afterlife heavens which reduces human inner brain fears of dying end of existence, which to early learning to think children, what feels good is truthful beliefs.

     To those whom believe in heaven a mere idea of an afterlife is enough feel relieved from having to worry stress about death’s end of existence.

     Modern media are constantly informing audiences about murders; cold cases; air crash investigations; Autopsy USA; etc., old ruling class ideas on terrorising populations using subconscious fears are maintained.

     As old Catholic religion: run inquisitions; charged fees for priest confessions; asked peasantry for Sunday church plate cash donations to build and maintain church assets; got the dying before death to pay for masses to get their sinful soul out of purgatory sooner than later written into wills. Ruling class institutions were using working class money to pay working class to work to merely stay alive, pay landlord rents and feed a family.

     To reduce ruling classes fear of pending rebellions against entrenched authority, controlling feel good about being alive information were important to rulers often using easily affordable to buy alcohol, medicating work exhaustion.

     Work exhaustion related mental stress does strange things to human behaviours. I pose that young children would have aged out of strange thinking behaviours on realising what behaviours were more acceptable to family members experiencing an increased positive reaction acceptance from family. School cognitive overload work exhaustion persuades youthful students to be more isolated from family’s more complex elderly mature thinking communications. Distractions onto quiz exam learning reduces incentive behaviours to better understand reality.

     Readers may ask, “why is it that I (steve9) can realise space travel misinformation”? Answer being I completely ignored school education as a waste of time, after having a year away from year 1 primary school, lying in bed with diagnose pneumonia collapsed lung. I would believe my brain developed with almost no mental stress damaging hippocampus depression fight or flight decision making influences. Left high school as soon as legal age permitted got a trade to secure reliable earnings.

     Mr X believed in media reported space travel that he frequently became angry when mentioning space travel to the moon is fake news, refused to accept any astronaut data which failed to add up to how Apollo astronauts walked on the moon, used Penn and Teller statement that large number of people involved would expose the fraud, I state media editors would repress any data arguing no men have walked on the moon. Media are more a confidence trick to persuade human populations that they’re as intelligent free thinking thinkers as could exist... reality is humans believe what they’re told to believe mainly in headline statement memory with zero curiosity to doubt.

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Re: Orion Capsule Return To Earth Fake News.
Reply #1 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:14pm
 
steve9 wrote on Dec 16th, 2022 at 11:25am:
...Rocket engine propulsion doesn’t work in relation to pushing against zero atmosphere as outer-space has no atmosphere for rocket engine exhausts to push against.

This of course is totally wrong, and indicates your lack of knowledge
regarding rocket propulsion.  Rockets do in fact work in space. 
You're confusing rocket engines with jet engines—which will not work
in space.

...

Or more elegantly...

...

I can't really comment on the rest of your rambling farrago of disconnected
factoids and misrepresentations—other than to agree your early education
was certainly lacking in imparting any knowledge into your adolescent brain.

If, as a non scientist, you'd like to study the movement of objects in space,
this is an easily accessible and non-super technical site you might enjoy:

https://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/space-environment/zoom-travel...

     
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Reply #2 - Dec 16th, 2022 at 9:15pm
 
Finally. An interesting Topic tonight. Cool
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #3 - Dec 18th, 2022 at 10:03am
 
     Planets gravity travels far out into space. The moon is approximately 240,000 miles from earth, moon is one sixth the size of earth, the moon’s gravity influences earth’s ocean tides, if not for the rotation of earth every 24 hours, a slower rotation of earth would increase tides high and low tide variation measurements.

     The earth travels at approximately 67,000 miles an hour around the sun, constantly falling towards the sun. The speed earth travels prevents earth from falling into the sun. The sun’s gravity influence on solar system planets indicates how far away from the sun gravity influences have on planets.

     Because all matter on the earth is be flung outward into space by the earth’s curved G force path of falling towards the sun, gravity on earth seems not to change as earth rotates. Astronauts on international space station are constantly falling to earth, if not for the 14,700 mph speeds around earth to maintain orbit, earth’s gravity would pull astronauts directly towards the centre of earth by the combined strength of gravity.

     As objects exampling asteroids move through space around the sun, other planets gravity must be changing asteroids directional paths if even minutely. Asteroids are travelling at tens to hundreds of thousands of mph, such speed entering earth’s atmosphere have asteroids by asteroids own high speeds are not so much influenced by earth’s gravity, asteroids seen burning causing load bangs when asteroids slow to the speed of sound allowing all sound waves to merge causing a bang.

     In theory, when spacecraft leave the moons orbit at very minimal speeds, earth’s gravity pull has all the influence on spacecraft’s direction to return to earth, as spacecraft capsules indicated by capsules’ limited size, carries no significant fuel power to alter directions spacecraft travels through space on approaching earth. The momentum of spacecraft mass travelling at high speeds making altering course even more difficult exampling G forces fighter pilots suffer when manoeuvring aircraft. Fighter pilots are barely travelling at 100s of mph.

     My further comment on school education is that school students are not taught about gravity influences, therefore when human brains are confronted with above like facts, human brains are searching memories for known simple exam/quiz like knowledge, when knowledge is void rather than process new knowledge, school education’s need for quick answers, having no answer memories, results in anxiety on not knowing quiz like answers, human behaviour resorts to avoidance tactics as realisations that no future exams are required, needs for normal emotional balance, realisation for escapism becomes the normal behaviour to reduce anxiety, by reducing anxiety escapism/avoidance behaviour becomes the brain chemical reward self-programmed zero thought fight or flight instant instinctive behaviour decisions driven by inner brain hippocampus.

     Thirteen years of learning’ mental stress making quick decisions on how to reduce learning anxiety, anxiety resembling fear, increases opportunities to repeatedly practice instinctive fight or flight inner brain behaviours. Within that 13 years, quick decisions are memorised on whether to quickly escape what are being presented as information to be memorised. In environments of stress awareness, escaping remembering knowledge reduces stress awareness, increasing rewards for not caring to remember knowledge. In most instances mere trying to increase self-esteem increase needs to fight rather than flight, angry responses become programmed into behaviours, resulting in bullying behaviours required to boost self-esteem brain chemical rewards. Husbands feeling demoralised whom beat wives increase self-esteem I say mostly caused by 13 years of demoralising being a loser awareness.

     Needless to say, about data demoralises readers self-esteem in that readers believed media’s NASA missions stories, rather than accept above theories have merit, readers strengthening existing beliefs to reduce anxiety of being easily fooled by media and school education brain manipulations. Not so difficult for me to hear and read strong angry ejections of above theories using/posting short single comment statements, allowing posters to increase their self-esteem belief in themselves.

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Re: Orion Capsule Return To Earth Fake News.
Reply #4 - Dec 18th, 2022 at 7:18pm
 
steve9 wrote on Dec 18th, 2022 at 10:03am:
Because all matter on the earth is be flung outward into space by the earth’s curved G force path of falling towards the sun, gravity on earth seems not to change as earth rotates. Astronauts on international space station are constantly falling to earth, if not for the 14,700 mph speeds around earth to maintain orbit, earth’s gravity would pull astronauts directly towards the centre of earth by the combined strength of gravity...

Mate... I dunno where you're getting this stuff from, but whatever
its source, it's repeatedly erroneous.

Nothing is "falling towards the sun".  Not human beings, nor our planet.

Centripetal and centrifugal forces are the forces experienced by rotating
objects such as the Earth.  The centripetal force keeps an object moving
in a circle and is always directed toward the center of that circle.

For instance, the gravitational force of the sun is a centripetal
force
that keeps the Earth orbiting around it.

And astronauts in space are not "constantly falling to earth".  The velocity
(not "speed") of the capsule has nothing to do with any gravitational effects
on the astronauts—in fact the mass of the Earth has no practicable effect on
the tiny mass of the human body at those distances separating them. 

It's been estimated—for example—that the gravitational pull from a mosquito
on a human body is around the same as the gravitational pull of the moon on
that same body.  But nowhere of course as great as the gravitational pull of
the Earth we stand upon.

You might like to check out THIS site for a great description of circular orbits.


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Reply #5 - Mar 17th, 2023 at 3:35pm
 
Canberra and Sydney from the ISS, 400+ ks out in space.


https://mobile.twitter.com/ISSAboveYou/status/1636239653941702657

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Reply #6 - Mar 17th, 2023 at 9:49pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Dec 18th, 2022 at 7:18pm:
steve9 wrote on Dec 18th, 2022 at 10:03am:
Because all matter on the earth is be flung outward into space by the earth’s curved G force path of falling towards the sun, gravity on earth seems not to change as earth rotates. Astronauts on international space station are constantly falling to earth, if not for the 14,700 mph speeds around earth to maintain orbit, earth’s gravity would pull astronauts directly towards the centre of earth by the combined strength of gravity...

Mate... I dunno where you're getting this stuff from, but whatever
its source, it's repeatedly erroneous.

Nothing is "falling towards the sun".  Not human beings, nor our planet.

Centripetal and centrifugal forces are the forces experienced by rotating
objects such as the Earth.  The centripetal force keeps an object moving
in a circle and is always directed toward the center of that circle.

For instance, the gravitational force of the sun is a centripetal
force
that keeps the Earth orbiting around it.

And astronauts in space are not "constantly falling to earth".  The velocity
(not "speed") of the capsule has nothing to do with any gravitational effects
on the astronauts—in fact the mass of the Earth has no practicable effect on
the tiny mass of the human body at those distances separating them. 

It's been estimated—for example—that the gravitational pull from a mosquito
on a human body is around the same as the gravitational pull of the moon on
that same body.  But nowhere of course as great as the gravitational pull of
the Earth we stand upon.

You might like to check out THIS site for a great description of circular orbits.




"And astronauts in space are not "constantly falling to earth".  The velocity ..."

Well, they are "falling" constantly but the fall is exactly matching the curvature of the Earth so they continue to orbit.


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