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Re: Immigration
Reply #1170 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:51am

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:09am:

ABC tries to defend their Labor masters on immigration:

May 22, 2024

Since the budget reply, the political airwaves have been dominated by debate
about the Opposition's claim that it can free up housing for Australians by cutting migration.
Chief Political Correspondent Laura Tingle looks at what impact the proposed cuts would have.

Apart from the political quibbling over levels of immigration, Doug Cameron hit the nail on the head today when he said the reason for the current housing crisis in Oz is the abandonment by government of public housing in the post-Thatcher 'small government' low- tax/privatization era, in which housing has come to be considered as an invesment vehicle.

Madness, as he rightly says; the wealthy - aided and abetted by tax policies, can buy multiple houses and push up prices.

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1171 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 1:47pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:51am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:09am:

ABC tries to defend their Labor masters on immigration:

May 22, 2024

Since the budget reply, the political airwaves have been dominated by debate
about the Opposition's claim that it can free up housing for Australians by cutting migration.
Chief Political Correspondent Laura Tingle looks at what impact the proposed cuts would have.

Apart from the political quibbling over levels of immigration, Doug Cameron hit the nail on the head today when he said the reason for the current housing crisis in Oz is the abandonment by government of public housing in the post-Thatcher 'small government' low- tax/privatization era, in which housing has come to be considered as an investment vehicle.

Madness, as he rightly says; the wealthy - aided and abetted by tax policies, can buy multiple houses and push up prices.

Yep, nailed it!

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1172 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 3:44pm

TGD,
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housing has come to be considered as an investment vehicle

Yes - something which is a basic need should never have been encouraged
as a way to exploit other people using rent - with tax advantages.
True prosperity is made by investing in business to create jobs
not ripping people off to spend their lives paying rent for
the wealthy to get richer and then be left with nothing at the end.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 42861 Gender:	Re: Immigration Reply #1173 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:19pm Population increases faster than the available housing stock. Prices go up. If we built houses faster than the population growth, we would have a housing glut and real estate would not be an attractive investment option. Prices go down. The rest is guff.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 133972 Gender:	Re: Immigration Reply #1174 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:21pm Frank wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 6:19pm: Population increases faster than the available housing stock. Prices go up. If we built houses faster than the population growth, we would have a housing glut and real estate would not be an attractive investment option. Prices go down.
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Re: Immigration
Reply #1175 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:31pm

Albo's not building houses - he's building future vertical slums and ghettoes - the first ones, near Strathfield in El Cidney, are for emergency service workers...

Stop dreaming that those billions will go to building houses that will become homes... he wants an upright prison for the majority.... very 1984 ... doors unlocked in time for work and locked an hour after work ceases....

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1176 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:50pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 7:31pm:

Albo's not building houses - he's building future vertical slums and ghettoes - the first ones, near Strathfield in El Cidney, are for emergency service workers...

Stop dreaming that those billions will go to building houses that will become homes... he wants an upright prison for the majority.... very 1984 ... doors unlocked in time for work and locked an hour after work ceases....

The party says that immigration is good for us.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 23300 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: Immigration Reply #1177 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm Bobby, if you ever have read "1984", what part of the book dictates that it was meant to be an instruction manual?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98628 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Immigration Reply #1178 - May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:01pm UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm: Bobby, if you ever have read "1984", what part of the book dictates that it was meant to be an instruction manual? No part but it seems that our Govts get more like that which is the book every day.
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Re: Immigration
Reply #1179 - May 25^th, 2024 at 10:58am

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:01pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Bobby, if you ever have read "1984", what part of the book dictates that it was meant to be an instruction manual?

No part but it seems that our Govts get more like that which is the book every day.

Not our government at all. They are trying to manipulate us. But, our general population is too strong and educated to fall for the bs that our government serves.

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1180 - May 25^th, 2024 at 11:10am

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 10:58am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:01pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Bobby, if you ever have read "1984", what part of the book dictates that it was meant to be an instruction manual?

No part but it seems that our Govts get more like that which is the book every day.

Not our government at all. They are trying to manipulate us. But, our general population is too strong and educated to fall for the bs that our government serves.

Wrong - people who are dirt poor still vote for Labor
even though Labor never makes rich - they always remain dirt poor.

People still voted for Labor's Dirty Dan in Victoria
after he locked us up like animals for over 262 days -
one of the longest house arrests/ lockdowns in the world for 5.5 million people -
started by only a couple of Covid cases.

Unionists still vote for Labor even though Labor supports
laws that they no longer have a right to withdraw their labor -
they can get fined and even lose their houses for going on strike.

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1181 - May 25^th, 2024 at 11:16am

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 10:58am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:01pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Bobby, if you ever have read "1984", what part of the book dictates that it was meant to be an instruction manual?

No part but it seems that our Govts get more like that which is the book every day.

Not our government at all. They are trying to manipulate us. But, our general population is too strong and educated to fall for the bs that our government serves.

Wrong - people who are dirt poor still vote for Labor
even though Labor never makes rich - they always remain dirt poor.

People still voted for Labor's Dirty Dan in Victoria
after he locked us up like animals for over 262 days -
one of the longest house arrests/ lockdowns in the world for 5.5 million people -
started by only a couple of Covid cases.

Unionists still vote for Labor even though Labor supports
laws that they no longer have a right to withdraw their labor -
they can get fined and even lose their houses for going on strike.

Link?

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1182 - May 25^th, 2024 at 11:20am

greggerypeccary wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:16am:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 10:58am:

Bobby. wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 11:01pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 23^rd, 2024 at 9:18pm:

Bobby, if you ever have read "1984", what part of the book dictates that it was meant to be an instruction manual?

No part but it seems that our Govts get more like that which is the book every day.

Not our government at all. They are trying to manipulate us. But, our general population is too strong and educated to fall for the bs that our government serves.

Wrong - people who are dirt poor still vote for Labor
even though Labor never makes rich - they always remain dirt poor.

People still voted for Labor's Dirty Dan in Victoria
after he locked us up like animals for over 262 days -
one of the longest house arrests/ lockdowns in the world for 5.5 million people -
started by only a couple of Covid cases.

Unionists still vote for Labor even though Labor supports
laws that they no longer have a right to withdraw their labor -
they can get fined and even lose their houses for going on strike.

Link?

Greggy,
don't be disingenuous - you know that Unions need permission to go on strike. Roll Eyes

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1183 - May 25^th, 2024 at 12:39pm

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Wrong - people who are dirt poor still vote for Labor
even though Labor never makes rich - they always remain dirt poor.

That's why politics and politicians are increasingly on the nose with the electorate, neither side can eliminate economic hardship experienced by a considerable portion of the population including 'Howard's battlers' (small business owners).

And the reason for that is systemic, ie the dysfunction of the current debt-based monetary system.

Stop trying to imagine the Libs (or the Labs) will ever eradicate economic hardship for all the population, given the current dysfunctional central bank orthodoxy (...wreck the economy to save it...).

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Re: Immigration
Reply #1184 - May 25^th, 2024 at 6:25pm

thegreatdivide wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 12:39pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 25^th, 2024 at 11:10am:

Wrong - people who are dirt poor still vote for Labor
even though Labor never makes rich - they always remain dirt poor.

That's why politics and politicians are increasingly on the nose with the electorate, neither side can eliminate economic hardship experienced by a considerable portion of the population including 'Howard's battlers' (small business owners).

And the reason for that is systemic, ie the dysfunction of the current debt-based monetary system.

Stop trying to imagine the Libs (or the Labs) will ever eradicate economic hardship for all the population, given the current dysfunctional central bank orthodoxy (...wreck the economy to save it...).

It's always been a Uniparty:

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