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Apr 14th, 2022 at 10:52am
 

The End of Citizenship
Having converted their own republic into a borderless credit union, Americans have to borrow other people’s national pride
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MICHAEL LIND
MARCH 28, 2022
In the spring of 2022, speculation in the commentariat that partisan rivalries were bringing the United States to the verge of actual civil war abruptly came to an end. With few exceptions, Americans of left, right, and center rallied around the national colors. Postmodern multiculturalism and anti-Enlightenment paleoconservatism suddenly were marginalized by romantic nationalism of the 19th-century variety. As war fever swept America, progressives and conservatives joined in denouncing not only the enemy government but also the enemy people and their enemy music, enemy literature, and enemy cuisine. Americans displayed the national flag in every imaginable form and pledged undying hatred of the nation’s foes.

The nation that Americans celebrated was not their own, but rather Ukraine, following the brutal Russian invasion of the former Soviet republic. Liberal Americans who would have thought it vulgar if not fascist to wave the Stars and Stripes took selfies with the blue and gold of Ukraine’s national flag. Democrats and Republicans who routinely demonize the leaders of the rival American party engaged in a kind of sentimental, uncritical hero worship of Ukraine’s president, Volodomyr Zelensky, which would have been mocked had its object been Joe Biden or Donald Trump. Neoconservatives and centrist liberals used the Ukraine war as an opportunity to settle scores by accusing opponents in the rival party and rivals in their own parties of moral if not legal treason for less than total and uncritical support of a foreign country with which the United States does not even have an alliance.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/end-of-citizenship

An interesting observation. If people show as much support for their own country, culture, history, language as they show for Ukraine they are denounced as extreme far right fascists.
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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 8:51am
 
Oh, FFS!



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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm
 
most democrats are probably not doing well in life.

they bounce out of bed and what is their purpose?

without purpose, they drift into their own heads and most peoples heads are full of negative emotions and self - attack.

if you run a business or work on a farm or are a tradie, your mind is occupied all day.

but the leftie is "stuck in his head"

it tends to lead to self loathing

and people who feel unworthy will attack anything that is positive and creative and joyful because they cant vibe with that.

you have to feel sympathy for lefties.

they seem to want to create some sort of heaven on earth and the obvious conclusion is that they must believe they are currently living in hell.

they have to manufacture problems and manufacture enemies to maintain their own emotional equilibrium.

i call this "chode purgatory" and its where most lefties reside.

we can mentor them but , as every farmer knows
you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink
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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 1:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
if you run a business or work on a farm or are a tradie, your mind is occupied all day.


But not if you are a teacher, a nurse, or a public transport operator?

look at the deplorables - defeated RW nut jobs - ransacking Brazil's capital, because they are worried the Leftist govt.  might attempt to reduce poverty in Brazil. 

btw the OP is identity politics gone mad.


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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:18pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
most democrats are probably not doing well in life.

they bounce out of bed and what is their purpose?


without purpose, they drift into their own heads and most peoples heads are full of negative emotions and self - attack.

if you run a business or work on a farm or are a tradie, your mind is occupied all day.

but the leftie is "stuck in his head"

it tends to lead to self loathing

and people who feel unworthy will attack anything that is positive and creative and joyful because they cant vibe with that.

you have to feel sympathy for lefties.

they seem to want to create some sort of heaven on earth and the obvious conclusion is that they must believe they are currently living in hell.

they have to manufacture problems and manufacture enemies to maintain their own emotional equilibrium.

i call this "chode purgatory" and its where most lefties reside.

we can mentor them but , as every farmer knows
you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink


What is their purpose?
To be the opposition of those evil Redneck Grey Southerners - the Rebel Confederates.
...but those Confederates are long gone and the Blue North Democrat 'Yankees' are feeling lost and without purpose.
They try desperately to put Trump and the Red (East) Republicans into the Grey South Confederacy shoebox - but it just doesn't fit.
The Democrats have no justification to exist anymore in a modern world. The sley their Grey Southern brother domestically in a Civil War, but they are failing dismally Internationally for America. Try as they might, even an 'amateur' from outside of the industry in Trump has made them look bad. No point in blaming Trump because he exposed their weakness.

The Democrats will soon hang by their own accord.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:21pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 1:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
if you run a business or work on a farm or are a tradie, your mind is occupied all day.


But not if you are a teacher, a nurse, or a public transport operator?

look at the deplorables - defeated RW nut jobs - ransacking Brazil's capital, because they are worried the Leftist govt.  might attempt to reduce poverty in Brazil. 

btw the OP is identity politics gone mad.





if you run a business, you get kudos and cash for going above and beyond
this fuels an upward spiral.

most nurses and teachers i know are burnt out
there is no extra pay for excellence (its a socialist level playing field) and so they get a bit bitter, feel like they are victims, tend to vent about their patients or students
this fuels a downward spiral

a machine operator like a bob cat driver or earthmoving operator has autonomy and can see he is making cash and is his own boss.
this fuels and upward spiral

a bus driver for the counsil is likely to be in victim mentality
a victim of the traffic, a victim of the red lights, a victim of the unruly students
this fuels a downward spiral

running a great business is like being in a great relationship.
its challenging but rewarding

settling for a lame job where you are just a battery in the mattrix is like settling for a chode partner.  its safe and theres not much challenge but you end up spinning your wheels and in purgatory


you always want to take on as much responsibility and as much challenge as you can

personal responsibility.

you will be far happier in your own business then working for a pay cheque.
your own business means you have to lay awake at night and learn to handle your anxieties and fears, how to live in chaos, how to deal with uncertainty

thats where all the growth is

and we are on this planet to grow, not to exist and linger
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Reply #6 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:05pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:21pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
most democrats are probably not doing well in life

missed the election results have you? Cheesy


Britain taking a step back (Brexit) leaving the French out in front to face Islam.
Good to be in first place sometimes eh Frodo? Grin Grin (you're a moron)
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Reply #7 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:24pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:21pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 1:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
if you run a business or work on a farm or are a tradie, your mind is occupied all day.


But not if you are a teacher, a nurse, or a public transport operator?

look at the deplorables - defeated RW nut jobs - ransacking Brazil's capital, because they are worried the Leftist govt.  might attempt to reduce poverty in Brazil. 

btw the OP is identity politics gone mad.


if you run a business, you get kudos and cash for going above and beyondthis fuels an upward spiral.


So... who will be the workers required by said businesses......

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most nurses and teachers i know are burnt out
there is no extra pay for excellence (its a socialist level playing field) and so they get a bit bitter, feel like they are victims, tend to vent about their patients or students
this fuels a downward spiral


Now since the country needs teachers and nurses, it might be necessary to pay them decently.

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a machine operator like a bob cat driver or earthmoving operator has autonomy and can see he is making cash and is his own boss.
this fuels and upward spiral


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a bus driver for the counsil is likely to be in victim mentalitya victim of the traffic, a victim of the red lights, a victim of the unruly students
this fuels a downward spiral


Attitude is all important in such an environment , of course; I have met contented bus drivers.  And the grunt work still needs to be done.

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running a great business is like being in a great relationship.its challenging but rewarding


Yes.

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settling for a lame job where you are just a battery in the mattrix is like settling for a chode partner.  its safe and theres not much challenge but you end up spinning your wheels and in purgatory


well... the "grunt jobs" need to be done, the country needs the workers, so it's not a matter for "settling" for something; but certainly a relationship should be stimulating. 

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you always want to take on as much responsibility and as much challenge as you can


Not necessarily for the purpose of making the most money....

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personal responsibility.


Buzzword, we all need to take personal responsibility for a successful life.

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you will be far happier in your own business then working for a pay cheque.


Unverifiable assertion.

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your own business means you have to lay awake at night and learn to handle your anxieties and fears, how to live in chaos, how to deal with uncertainty

thats where all the growth is


like the 'masters of the universe' who caused the GFC....

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and we are on this planet to grow, not to exist and linger


Grow - and work and prosper. The nation requires the talents of everyone, not just entrepreneurs.

Meanwhile the RW losers storming the capital in Brazil have certainly lost the plot re "a positive attitude"/ "upward spiral".
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Reply #8 - Jan 9th, 2023 at 6:32pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 4:24pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 2:21pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 1:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
if you run a business or work on a farm or are a tradie, your mind is occupied all day.


But not if you are a teacher, a nurse, or a public transport operator?

look at the deplorables - defeated RW nut jobs - ransacking Brazil's capital, because they are worried the Leftist govt.  might attempt to reduce poverty in Brazil. 

btw the OP is identity politics gone mad.


if you run a business, you get kudos and cash for going above and beyondthis fuels an upward spiral.


So... who will be the workers required by said businesses......

Quote:
most nurses and teachers i know are burnt out
there is no extra pay for excellence (its a socialist level playing field) and so they get a bit bitter, feel like they are victims, tend to vent about their patients or students
this fuels a downward spiral


Now since the country needs teachers and nurses, it might be necessary to pay them decently.

Quote:
a machine operator like a bob cat driver or earthmoving operator has autonomy and can see he is making cash and is his own boss.
this fuels and upward spiral


Quote:
a bus driver for the counsil is likely to be in victim mentalitya victim of the traffic, a victim of the red lights, a victim of the unruly students
this fuels a downward spiral


Attitude is all important in such an environment , of course; I have met contented bus drivers.  And the grunt work still needs to be done.

Quote:
running a great business is like being in a great relationship.its challenging but rewarding


Yes.

Quote:
settling for a lame job where you are just a battery in the mattrix is like settling for a chode partner.  its safe and theres not much challenge but you end up spinning your wheels and in purgatory


well... the "grunt jobs" need to be done, the country needs the workers, so it's not a matter for "settling" for something; but certainly a relationship should be stimulating. 

Quote:
you always want to take on as much responsibility and as much challenge as you can


Not necessarily for the purpose of making the most money....

Quote:
personal responsibility.


Buzzword, we all need to take personal responsibility for a successful life.

Quote:
you will be far happier in your own business then working for a pay cheque.


Unverifiable assertion.

Quote:
your own business means you have to lay awake at night and learn to handle your anxieties and fears, how to live in chaos, how to deal with uncertainty

thats where all the growth is


like the 'masters of the universe' who caused the GFC....

Quote:
and we are on this planet to grow, not to exist and linger


Grow - and work and prosper. The nation requires the talents of everyone, not just entrepreneurs.

Meanwhile the RW losers storming the capital in Brazil have certainly lost the plot re "a positive attitude"/ "upward spiral".



reasonably good responses TGD.
kudos
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Reply #9 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 9:59am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:30pm:
You wouldn't know what "National Identity" was, Soren.  Your an immigrant.  You belong in Denmark, you flew here unlike Australians who grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1664785669/945#945


Soren's idea of "National Identity":

https://comics2film.com/images/1056/594/1/hagar-the-horrible-dik-browne-animatio...

Go back to where you belong, amongst all your Viking mates, you Dane.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yeah, as long as I am nothing like you, a bedwetting, vain shifty ponce.
Who would want to identify with YOU??


23 million, give or take a few, Australians - you know the people who identify as Australians, rather than those who identify as Danish Immigrants, Soren.  The people turn out every 25 April every year to applaud the people who wore a uniform and were willing to defend them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:41am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:30pm:
You wouldn't know what "National Identity" was, Soren.  Your an immigrant.  You belong in Denmark, you flew here unlike Australians who grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1664785669/945#945


Soren's idea of "National Identity":

https://comics2film.com/images/1056/594/1/hagar-the-horrible-dik-browne-animatio...

Go back to where you belong, amongst all your Viking mates, you Dane.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yeah, as long as I am nothing like you, a bedwetting, vain shifty ponce.
Who would want to identify with YOU??


23 million, give or take a few, Australians - you know the people who identify as Australians, rather than those who identify as Danish Immigrants, Soren.  The people turn out every 25 April every year to applaud the people who wore a uniform and were willing to defend them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The current population of Australia is 26,282,017 as of Saturday, February 25, 2023.

My son is in uniform, you vain, unmoored pompous old mail order Doktor.

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Reply #11 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:07pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:41am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:30pm:
You wouldn't know what "National Identity" was, Soren.  Your an immigrant.  You belong in Denmark, you flew here unlike Australians who grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1664785669/945#945


Soren's idea of "National Identity":

https://comics2film.com/images/1056/594/1/hagar-the-horrible-dik-browne-animatio...

Go back to where you belong, amongst all your Viking mates, you Dane.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yeah, as long as I am nothing like you, a bedwetting, vain shifty ponce.
Who would want to identify with YOU??


23 million, give or take a few, Australians - you know the people who identify as Australians, rather than those who identify as Danish Immigrants, Soren.  The people turn out every 25 April every year to applaud the people who wore a uniform and were willing to defend them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The current population of Australia is 26,282,017 as of Saturday, February 25, 2023.


You really do seem to have problems with  English. don't you, Soren.  I suppose it is because you're an Immigrant?  "give or take a few, Australians" means, more or less the total...   Roll Eyes

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My son is in uniform, you vain, unmoored pompous old mail order Doktor.


He at least has his priorities right, Soren.  Let me guess, he's a Brylcreme Boy, rather than a member of the Army or the Senior Service?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 4:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:07pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:41am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 9:59am:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:55pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:40pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:31pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 25th, 2023 at 9:30pm:
You wouldn't know what "National Identity" was, Soren.  Your an immigrant.  You belong in Denmark, you flew here unlike Australians who grew here.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1664785669/945#945


Soren's idea of "National Identity":

https://comics2film.com/images/1056/594/1/hagar-the-horrible-dik-browne-animatio...

Go back to where you belong, amongst all your Viking mates, you Dane.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Yeah, as long as I am nothing like you, a bedwetting, vain shifty ponce.
Who would want to identify with YOU??


23 million, give or take a few, Australians - you know the people who identify as Australians, rather than those who identify as Danish Immigrants, Soren.  The people turn out every 25 April every year to applaud the people who wore a uniform and were willing to defend them.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The current population of Australia is 26,282,017 as of Saturday, February 25, 2023.


You really do seem to have problems with  English. don't you, Soren.  I suppose it is because you're an Immigrant?  "give or take a few, Australians" means, more or less the total...   Roll Eyes

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My son is in uniform, you vain, unmoored pompous old mail order Doktor.


He at least has his priorities right, Soren.  Let me guess, he's a Brylcreme Boy, rather than a member of the Army or the Senior Service?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


3.2 million is not 'give or take a few', cockwomble. As  a 'grew here' and a 'doktor' you should know your own country's population. Give or take a few MILLION might have meant what you are trying to say.


He's 21 and has been in the ADF for over a year.  WTF would YOU know about him, Bbwian?  You don't know your arse from your elbow., FFS.
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Reply #13 - Feb 26th, 2023 at 5:23pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 11:41am:
My son is in uniform, you vain, unmoored pompous old mail order Doktor.


Whose uniform? Is it 🌈? Cheesy
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:07pm:
Let me guess, he's a Brylcreme Boy, rather than a member of the Army or the Senior Service?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your principle attitude of resentment and unabating rancour is once again in full, glaring display, you poncy git.
You are resentful even towards those currenty in the ADF.
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Reply #15 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 9:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27th, 2023 at 8:32pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 5:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 26th, 2023 at 1:07pm:
Let me guess, he's a Brylcreme Boy, rather than a member of the Army or the Senior Service?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your principle attitude of resentment and unabating rancour is once again in full, glaring display, you poncy git.
You are resentful even towards those currenty in the ADF.


The only person showing any resentment is yourself, Soren.  A "Brylcreme Boy" is a term of endearment, compared to what I could have called him.  So, which service is it?  I bet he's glad to be out from under your thumb.  12 months is barely long enough to learn how to do "Hospital corners", learn how to shine his boots and brass and how to do up his trousers properly.  I wish him luck in what ever he does, as long as he forgets all the bullshit he learnt at your knee.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Fuck off, poncy half-wit.



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Topic or some nuts unstable rambling?

I don't see National identity as a problem that anyone has.
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Topic or some nuts unstable rambling?

I don't see National identity as a problem that anyone has.

Well, you only see peas, ducky. Hardly a yardstick for anything.

Except for other ducks.

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Reply #18 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 9:53pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 10:52am:
The End of Citizenship
Having converted their own republic into a borderless credit union, Americans have to borrow other people’s national pride
BY
MICHAEL LIND
MARCH 28, 2022
In the spring of 2022, speculation in the commentariat that partisan rivalries were bringing the United States to the verge of actual civil war abruptly came to an end. With few exceptions, Americans of left, right, and center rallied around the national colors. Postmodern multiculturalism and anti-Enlightenment paleoconservatism suddenly were marginalized by romantic nationalism of the 19th-century variety. As war fever swept America, progressives and conservatives joined in denouncing not only the enemy government but also the enemy people and their enemy music, enemy literature, and enemy cuisine. Americans displayed the national flag in every imaginable form and pledged undying hatred of the nation’s foes.

The nation that Americans celebrated was not their own, but rather Ukraine, following the brutal Russian invasion of the former Soviet republic. Liberal Americans who would have thought it vulgar if not fascist to wave the Stars and Stripes took selfies with the blue and gold of Ukraine’s national flag. Democrats and Republicans who routinely demonize the leaders of the rival American party engaged in a kind of sentimental, uncritical hero worship of Ukraine’s president, Volodomyr Zelensky, which would have been mocked had its object been Joe Biden or Donald Trump. Neoconservatives and centrist liberals used the Ukraine war as an opportunity to settle scores by accusing opponents in the rival party and rivals in their own parties of moral if not legal treason for less than total and uncritical support of a foreign country with which the United States does not even have an alliance.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/end-of-citizenship

An interesting observation. If people show as much support for their own country, culture, history, language as they show for Ukraine they are denounced as extreme far right fascists.


Good point!

Absolute hypocrisy and yet another example of left woke contradiction in action. 😐
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Reply #19 - Feb 27th, 2023 at 10:49pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 27th, 2023 at 9:53pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 14th, 2022 at 10:52am:
The End of Citizenship
Having converted their own republic into a borderless credit union, Americans have to borrow other people’s national pride
BY
MICHAEL LIND
MARCH 28, 2022
In the spring of 2022, speculation in the commentariat that partisan rivalries were bringing the United States to the verge of actual civil war abruptly came to an end. With few exceptions, Americans of left, right, and center rallied around the national colors. Postmodern multiculturalism and anti-Enlightenment paleoconservatism suddenly were marginalized by romantic nationalism of the 19th-century variety. As war fever swept America, progressives and conservatives joined in denouncing not only the enemy government but also the enemy people and their enemy music, enemy literature, and enemy cuisine. Americans displayed the national flag in every imaginable form and pledged undying hatred of the nation’s foes.

The nation that Americans celebrated was not their own, but rather Ukraine, following the brutal Russian invasion of the former Soviet republic. Liberal Americans who would have thought it vulgar if not fascist to wave the Stars and Stripes took selfies with the blue and gold of Ukraine’s national flag. Democrats and Republicans who routinely demonize the leaders of the rival American party engaged in a kind of sentimental, uncritical hero worship of Ukraine’s president, Volodomyr Zelensky, which would have been mocked had its object been Joe Biden or Donald Trump. Neoconservatives and centrist liberals used the Ukraine war as an opportunity to settle scores by accusing opponents in the rival party and rivals in their own parties of moral if not legal treason for less than total and uncritical support of a foreign country with which the United States does not even have an alliance.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/end-of-citizenship

An interesting observation. If people show as much support for their own country, culture, history, language as they show for Ukraine they are denounced as extreme far right fascists.


Good point!

Absolute hypocrisy and yet another example of left woke contradiction in action. 😐


No Lisa the story forgets to mention that the other side is supporting Russia, Very much the same thing the other way around but on the wrong side. These are the guys who supported an insurection - 100% trators.
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Reply #20 - Feb 28th, 2023 at 9:23am
 
I don't think the other side is supporting Russia.
If anything, they condemn Russia.
They don't think NATO and the US are innocent even if Putin is a f***head monster, which he is.

Anyway, it is a very cost effective way to degrade Russia's economy and military while letting China watch.


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Reply #21 - Feb 28th, 2023 at 9:53am
 
Putin is not a one-off monster arising from unique conditions.

He's the 'Tsar' the Russians want and expect in accordance with their cultural archetype - the strongman, who rises to rescue Russia from smuta (times of troubles) which, for Russians, occur in historical cycles.

If Putin falls, it will not be the end of the Russian strongman - another one, more brutal and ruthless, will take his place
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>>  Thinks to herself....do these 2 realize that they’ve both just posted the terrible truth about this ongoing sad and sorry crisis?  <<
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Spot the difference! What do the top 20 have in common, and what do the bottom 20?


World’s 20 Happiest Countries in 2023
Finland
Denmark
Iceland
Israel
Netherlands
Sweden
Norway
Switzerland
Luxembourg
New Zealand
Austria
Australia
Canada
Ireland
United States
Germany
Belgium
Czech Republic
United Kingdom
Lithuania

World’s 20 Unhappiest Countries in 2023
Afghanistan
Lebanon
Sierra Leone
Zimbabwe
Congo
Botswana
Malawi
Comoros
Tanzania
Zambia
Madagascar
India
Liberia
Ethiopia
Jordan
Togo
Egypt
Mali
Gambia
Bangladesh
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2023/03/20/ranked-the-20-happiest-...


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Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:15pm:
Spot the difference! What do the top 20 have in common, and what do the bottom 20?


World’s 20 Happiest Countries in 2023
Finland
Denmark
Iceland
Israel
Netherlands
Sweden
Norway
Switzerland
Luxembourg
New Zealand
Austria
Australia
Canada
Ireland
United States
Germany
Belgium
Czech Republic
United Kingdom
Lithuania

World’s 20 Unhappiest Countries in 2023
Afghanistan
Lebanon
Sierra Leone
Zimbabwe
Congo
Botswana
Malawi
Comoros
Tanzania
Zambia
Madagascar
India
Liberia
Ethiopia
Jordan
Togo
Egypt
Mali
Gambia
Bangladesh
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2023/03/20/ranked-the-20-happiest-...




Money ?
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Dnarever wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:35pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 20th, 2023 at 5:15pm:
Spot the difference! What do the top 20 have in common, and what do the bottom 20?


World’s 20 Happiest Countries in 2023
Finland
Denmark
Iceland
Israel
Netherlands
Sweden
Norway
Switzerland
Luxembourg
New Zealand
Austria
Australia
Canada
Ireland
United States
Germany
Belgium
Czech Republic
United Kingdom
Lithuania

World’s 20 Unhappiest Countries in 2023
Afghanistan
Lebanon
Sierra Leone
Zimbabwe
Congo
Botswana
Malawi
Comoros
Tanzania
Zambia
Madagascar
India
Liberia
Ethiopia
Jordan
Togo
Egypt
Mali
Gambia
Bangladesh
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2023/03/20/ranked-the-20-happiest-...




Money ?

India is a bigger economy - has more money -  than top 10 happiest countries.

You have two more tries, duckwit.

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I find these lists a bit of a paid-for farce.
Much like those "Best city to live in" rankings which are all paid for.

Considering Finland was considered the most 'depressed' nation with it's high suicide rate (is it still high or has that miraculously dissapeared too?) for ages and then suddenly in the last 5 years has become the Happiest Nation on the planet. Sounds like Tourism $$$ promo more like it.

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Reply #27 - Mar 21st, 2023 at 1:15am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
most democrats are probably not doing well in life.

With the exception of course of those currently and successfully running a
country of 332 million people (against all odds) LOL.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 9th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
...but the leftie is "stuck in his head"

I'm not sure why your rabid right-wing mindset dominates nearly every
comment you post here, but you'll find—at least here in Australia—that the
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wing concern the right wing in equal amounts.

Your silly efforts to create a vituperative them-and-us scenario is without
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The Democrats are not successfully running America.
They're only running their own 'Media' show... oh, and the Ukraine.
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Britain is full of white people - how dreadful!!


Race baiter extraordinaire Humza Yousaf has won the SNP leadership contest and is set to be named as Scotland's new first minister, replacing Nicola Sturgeon.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1640341403971485699


Anogher wee Paki from Scotland, no?

...

Transitioning, innit.

Nicola Hamza Yousaf Sturgeon.
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The Great Replacement

...

When will India, Pakistan, Bangladesh have European PMs??


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Anybody remember Enoch Powell?
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Yeah, charming chap, for a racist.
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Yeah, charming chap, for a racist.

Tell us one racist thing he said.

Go on.

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Yeah, charming chap, for a racist.


Erratum: for 'racist' read 'realist'.
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What an incredible 'intelligent' clip from that guy.
He did so well to 'explain it all' that the Show Host, was indeed 'lost for words' (even if his job was to inflame the 'racist' vibe more so - to which he failed).

You could hear the
*coughs
of an uncomfortable audience having to listen to 'truth' via fair reason and privilege - that indeed made their own country 'the Racist' via the Media's promotions and 'racist' narrative against White people or 'non-negroes'.

He also proved Britain/UK's progressiveness from Empire to Commonwealth bringing an 'equality' of other nations in equal standing with Britain/UK. USA has never done that. Rather, pay Dictators 'under the table' to keep their nations 'weak'.

Britain/UK once over-populated - exiled many of their peoples to other parts of the world, like the Criminals from Capital Mass Murderers, etc to petty criminals for stealing food.
Ironically, although sending their own indigenous out into the world, other peoples (as he said) flooded back into Britain/UK with 'easy access' and uncountability through the 'British Subject' clause.

He also points out a very 'patriotic' choice in trying to prevent 'Fear' from the indigenous British/UK population - rather than throw bias towards discrimination against foreigners flooding in without British ability to 'provide'.

In the eyes of the Media though - even American 'patriotism' is given the dirty word of 'Racism' and even accusing Trump of Nationalism being bad and racist.
...yet Pelosi flies to Taiwan to support 'Nationalism' there.  Roll Eyes just to antagonise China for the Democrats/Media.

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No doubt about it.
The USA under the control of the Democrats (the Blue North) and Media (both in bed with each other) have become the BAD GUY and the CRIMINAL in all this - INTERNATIONALLY.

How Australia can jump to the 'orders' of the USA - a Privatised Political system, that is NOT part of the Commonwealth, is beyond me? Roll Eyes

USA has only its own selfish agenda.
It does not adhere to the United Nations.
It does not adhere to the Commonwealth of Nations.
It does not adhere to Australia.
...but it makes many nations adhere to its own agenda like a big Bully. No different to the USSR/Russia or the CCP.

This is 'all wrong'.
Australia should not tarnish itself fighting like a mercenary hitman for the USA.

Australia fighting for the USA is more like being Sardaukhar
than fighting for the British (Atreides) as Fremen.
BIG F*UCKING DIFFERENCE THERE!!
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Time to put an end to the position of Prime Ministers and boot them back to the USA where they all belong!!!
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Jasin wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 7:18am:
Proven by who?
Your racist black only Media narrative? Grin Grin Grin



No.

We prosecuted these ideas in World War 2.

We won.

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Won what Mothra?
And who exactly is the 'we' you're associating yourself with?
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Not Frank, for a start.

And not eugenicist loonies who just keep getting proven more and more wrong as time marches forwards.
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mothra wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 7:15am:
Frank wrote on Mar 29th, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 29th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Yeah, charming chap, for a racist.

Tell us one racist thing he said.

Go on.




The thing you don't understand and that you will never understand is that Enoch Powell is every bit as ridiculous as Madison Grant or any other of the xenophobic loonies over the decades who've been telling us immigration will be the end of us when in reality, the biggest threat we collectively face is far right extremism.

Multiculturalism itself seems to be going along swimmingly. Sure there are some rough patches but we know they always even out in time, enriching us as they do.

Enoch Powell and Madison Grant and all of those ridiculous eugenicists before, during and after them .... take a bow, Frank. How they've consistently proven through he ages that they're idiots. All of that red under the beds crap and it's white nationalists after all.

Hilarious.

And now we have Pauline? Brilliant.

Wasn't there a thread on here about society devolving? Or am i mixing up my hate sites?


But you support an ENTIRELY race-based, eugenicists Aboriginal chamber of parliament.

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mothra wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 8:12am:
Frank wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 8:11am:
mothra wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 7:15am:
Frank wrote on Mar 29th, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 29th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Yeah, charming chap, for a racist.

Tell us one racist thing he said.

Go on.




The thing you don't understand and that you will never understand is that Enoch Powell is every bit as ridiculous as Madison Grant or any other of the xenophobic loonies over the decades who've been telling us immigration will be the end of us when in reality, the biggest threat we collectively face is far right extremism.

Multiculturalism itself seems to be going along swimmingly. Sure there are some rough patches but we know they always even out in time, enriching us as they do.

Enoch Powell and Madison Grant and all of those ridiculous eugenicists before, during and after them .... take a bow, Frank. How they've consistently proven through he ages that they're idiots. All of that red under the beds crap and it's white nationalists after all.

Hilarious.

And now we have Pauline? Brilliant.

Wasn't there a thread on here about society devolving? Or am i mixing up my hate sites?


But you support an ENTIRELY race-based, eugenicists Aboriginal chamber of parliament.




You're out of your mind.



You don't?
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Frank wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 8:58am:
mothra wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 8:12am:
Frank wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 8:11am:
mothra wrote on Apr 6th, 2023 at 7:15am:
Frank wrote on Mar 29th, 2023 at 9:21pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 29th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Yeah, charming chap, for a racist.

Tell us one racist thing he said.

Go on.




The thing you don't understand and that you will never understand is that Enoch Powell is every bit as ridiculous as Madison Grant or any other of the xenophobic loonies over the decades who've been telling us immigration will be the end of us when in reality, the biggest threat we collectively face is far right extremism.

Multiculturalism itself seems to be going along swimmingly. Sure there are some rough patches but we know they always even out in time, enriching us as they do.

Enoch Powell and Madison Grant and all of those ridiculous eugenicists before, during and after them .... take a bow, Frank. How they've consistently proven through he ages that they're idiots. All of that red under the beds crap and it's white nationalists after all.

Hilarious.

And now we have Pauline? Brilliant.

Wasn't there a thread on here about society devolving? Or am i mixing up my hate sites?


But you support an ENTIRELY race-based, eugenicists Aboriginal chamber of parliament.




You're out of your mind.



You don't?


Mothra, do you support the race based Voice to be in the Constitution?

Yeah but no but yeah but no but?

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Sometimes a storm in a teacup tells us about the weather outside. This is the case with a recent row at London’s Globe Theatre, where the artistic director, actress Michelle Terry, has cast herself in the role of Richard III. This move aroused criticism because disabled actors felt that the role should have gone to one of them. That a woman should play so masculine a role, or that the director should choose herself to play the role, drew no attention.

The burden of the actors’ outrage was that Richard III was disabled and therefore ought to be played by a disabled actor. But as Shakespeare portrays him, Richard III was not disabled. (And in reality, he was scoliotic, not kyphotic). Shakespeare portrays him as an accomplished seducer and a ferocious warrior. He did not cry, “Some crutches! Some crutches! My kingdom for some crutches!” at the scene of the battle of Bosworth Field. He cried for a horse that surely would have been useless to him had he been severely handicapped.

In any case, the demand that actors should play only those parts that are somehow consonant with what we now call their “lived experience” is self-evidently absurd. If taken seriously, Richard III would have to be played by a member of the Royal Family (Prince Andrew, perhaps?), for only such a person could know or imagine what it was like to be a royal person and covet the crown. Taken to its logical conclusion, or its reductio ad absurdum, the argument would mean that the only person an actor could play was him- or herself.

Of course, a happy medium exists, though we are increasingly unable to find it. We should not expect Ophelia to be played by a 90-year-old crone. We should add difficulties in the way of an audience’s “willing suspension of disbelief,” as Coleridge put it, by casting a tall man as short or a short man as tall.

The whole silly controversy reveals to what absurdities we have sunk, thanks to identity politics and a willful misunderstanding, for the sake of personal or group advantage, of what wrongful discrimination is. Storms in teacups can be revealing.

Theodore Dalrymple is a contributing editor of City Journal, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and the author of many books.

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Why should an American care what happens in an English theatre, Soren?  "My kingdom for a Badger!"  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Feb 10th, 2024 at 12:54pm:
Why should an American care what happens in an English theatre, Soren?  "My kingdom for a Badger!"  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



because "The whole silly controversy reveals to what absurdities we have sunk, thanks to identity politics and a willful misunderstanding, for the sake of personal or group advantage, of what wrongful discrimination is. Storms in teacups can be revealing."

Who is the 'American' you are referring to, silly duffer?  And why do YOU care about what happens in an English theatre, cockwomble, enough to chip in with your idiotic nonsense?



Also on the broader context on the subject:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1707495081/4#4
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Sweden has been transformed by immigration.


When the large wave of refugees came to Sweden in 2015, I took a stand for openness and refugees welcome. I then opposed the restructuring of migration policy to a stricter line that took place within the Moderates.

But I have changed my mind on the matter. Now, instead, I represent an even stricter migration policy than the one I opposed at the time.

Sweden today is a completely different country than it was at the end of the 20th century. In modern times, Sweden per capita has received the most immigrants in the Western world and the rate of immigration has been higher than in other Western countries. Today, over a third of Sweden's population has a foreign background. In 1987, the corresponding figure was 11 percent.

Approximately 20 percent of our residents have non-European and non-Western ancestry. In Europe, only France, Great Britain and the Netherlands can show a similar figure, but the structure of immigration in these countries is linked to immigration from old colonies.

In several Swedish municipalities, over half of the residents have a foreign background. The change that Sweden has undergone and is undergoing is fundamentally changing the country.

It is obvious to me that the large immigration to Sweden has been followed by several major problems.
In several Swedish municipalities, over half of the residents have a foreign background. The change that Sweden has undergone and is undergoing is fundamentally changing the country.

In a new report , the Social Democrats themselves write: "The biggest social change during the 21st century in Sweden is the changed demography due to immigration. Sweden has gone from being one of the western world's most homogeneous countries to the western world's most diverse and heterogeneous country."

A high level of migration in a relatively short period of time naturally affects the possibility of integration. The conditions for integrating people into Swedish society are becoming more difficult as immigration increases. It leads to an exclusion that is burdensome, both for the people who live there and for society at large.

For the integration to work, people who both want to move here and who already live here need to adapt to Swedish society and our values. You need to work, speak Swedish and do your duty before you demand your right. Those who do not want to adapt and integrate should not stay in Sweden either. Deportation or repatriation should then be a real option.
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Labor club mocked for promo video containing just one Australian: ‘Of course we weren’t born in your country’

The video has attracted criticism since it was posted on the club’s Instagram account on May 21, with one X user sharing it with a caption mocking the meme format: “We’re the Labor Club, of course there’s only one person in this video with an Australian accent.”

“We’re the Labor Club, of course we were born overseas,” read one comment on that post.

Another user shared the clip with the title “Checking in on Young Labor” and attracted dozens of similar comments.

“We’re the Labor club, of course we weren’t born in your country, saar,” said one.

“We’re Young Labor, of course we’re going to help facilitate White replacement,” said another.

“We’re the Labor club, of course we can’t pronounce basic English words,” a third wrote.


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Australia expelled Indian spies who were operating with impunity inside the rapidly growing immigrant community, but successive governments failed to inform the public and instead signed damaging trade and immigration deals.

Australia’s intelligence agencies became aware in 2020 that Indian operatives were trying to access sensitive defence technology, breach airport security protocols, and target politicians and a state police force, an investigation by Four Corners has revealed.

And even when intelligence chief Mike Burgess publicly announced the following year that a “nest of spies” from an unnamed country had been confronted and removed, then-prime minister Scott Morrison kept quiet about the country responsible.

At least four spies were expelled, some who had been working as diplomats at India’s high commission, which made headlines earlier this year when the country’s former high commissioner, Navdeep Suri Singh, was ordered to pay $97,000 to a former staffer he made work in “slave-like” conditions at his Canberra home.

Politicians told Four Corners that the number of secret expulsions put India “on par” with countries notorious for their intelligence operations, such as China and Russia, while Greens senator David Shoebridge said India should have been condemned at the time.

But despite the interruption of the Indian spy network, critics of the Modi government said agents were still operating in Australia, threatening dissidents here and their families in India, and setting up community organisations which aim to infiltrate politics at the local, state and federal levels.

Mr Morrison, who often pandered to the Indian immigrant population – Australia’s fastest growing foreign group – by cooking curries and posing for photos with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, went on to sign a Free Trade Agreement in 2022 that has been criticised for guaranteeing entry to unneeded Indian “skilled workers”.

When the current Labor government was elected later that year, new Prime Minister Anthony Albanese continued where Mr Morrison left off, painting dots on his forehead and signing an unprecedented immigration deal described by critics as “open borders for Indians”.

The May 2023 deal allowed for five-year student visas for Indians, eight-year temporary work visas for Indian graduates, unlimited work rights for spouses, and three-month visitor visas for family or business purposes, with no caps on numbers.

Another scheme allowed 3,000 Indian graduates to work and stay in Australia for up to two years and then apply for permanent skilled visas.

Economist Leith van Onselen wrote in Macrobusiness last week that Mr Morrison’s FTA “baked in the importation of yoga teachers”, after it was revealed that Labor’s Jobs and Skills Australia consultation list prioritises those workers ahead of skilled migrants supposedly needed to build homes.

According to the document, yoga instructors, martial artists and dog handlers can be fast-tracked into Australia while plumbers, bricklayers and cabinetmakers are not on the core skills list.

The Morrison FTA put 1,800 yoga teachers in a special category along with chefs, allowing them to stay for more than four years.

“The yoga instructor visa farce was basically a gift to India, alongside the recently signed migration pacts that gives greater rights to Indians wishing to work and migrate to Australia than other nations,” Mr van Onselen wrote.

“Through its various dumb migration deals, Australia has effectively Swiss cheesed its immigration policy, reduced its ability to control migration numbers and quality, and reduced Australia’s sovereignty in controlling its borders.  We are not a serious country.”

Australia’s Indian population grew from 378,480 in 2013 to 845,800 in 2023 – from 1.6% of the population to 3.2%. Almost 250,000 of those have arrived since 2018, including 92,940 in the last financial year alone.

They are the largest immigrant group in Victoria at 272,250, making up 4.2% of the state’s population, the vast majority in Melbourne.

Earlier this year Hindus in Melton on the city’s outskirts demanded open-air funeral pyres at a new cemetery so Indian immigrants can cremate their dead like they do in their home country.
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Black to the Future: Afr0-Futurism as Archival Practice


Black to the Future: Afr0-Futurism as Archival Practice, is a four-week course that considers these very questions by exploring the concept of Afr0-Futurism and Pan Africanism respectively. We will learn about the conceptual and aesthetic practice of Black artists, thinkers and multi-disciplinary practitioners whose ideas of global African identities, science and speculative fiction, space and time travel not only critiqued racial oppression but re-imagined equitable societies.


This course is taught by Janine Francois and is a response to Larry Achiampong's 2022 Art on the Underground commission, ‘PAN AFRICAN FLAGS FOR THE RELIC TRAVELLERS’ ALLIANCE (UNION)’ which re-imagines London Underground’s iconic roundel, for Westminster Underground station.


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Art  and Activism in the Age of Black Girl Magic is a four-week course that examines the themes present in modern and contemporary artworks by Black women and Black non-binary artists. Their contributions to visual artistic production are further explored through the lens of Black feminist thought and action in social and protest movements in contemporary history.

This course is a response to Joy Labinjo’s large-scale Art on the Underground commission, '5 more minutes’ which launched at Brixton Underground station in November 2021.

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Australia is becoming Frank-en-Stein state as the followers of a death cult take over both political parties and the overt racism breaks out of the shadows.

Australia is just another child of Uncle Sam without independence from US or UK.
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We have no national identity other than consumerism, shopping malls, social hand outs, imported Toyotas, soft sentencing, the glory of being born overseas, and compulsory voting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity





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Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 18th, 2024 at 1:37pm:
We have no national identity other than consumerism, shopping malls, social hand outs, imported Toyotas, soft sentencing, the glory of being born overseas, and compulsory voting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_identity





This is both nonsense - and something you can say about every Western country with large scale third world immigration.  What is Sweden or Belgium to a Somali, Afghan, Iraqi or Nigerian? Are they going there to become Swedes or Belgians? Of course not.

Are Muslim immigrants to the West come with a desire to be Western according to their chosen country's national version of Western civilisation - to be German, Swiss, Danish, Irish, Australian?? No. They are bringing Islam and plant it there and insist that the infidel dogs respect it - or else.

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How it started

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How it's going

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https://x.com/slatzism/status/1831334628025921888?s=43
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As the poet asked all these years ago, "Is their children learning?"


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National identity news...

The NYT illustrates it's Word of the Day with this fat arsed, big bellied DEI figure

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The word toboggan has appeared in four articles on NYTimes.com in the past year, including on Jan. 1 in the interactive “36 Hours in Zurich” by Noele Illien:

There’s plenty of seasonal fun to be had in the colder months, whether it’s eating fondue on a vintage tram or hiking to a winter wonderland atop a local mountain, before tobogganing down.



So when you think snow and Switzerland, you think of a fat Afro woman. We all do. I know I do.

And you are a KKK wacist if you don't.

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All you had to do this week was watch the Boxing Day Test Match to notice the majority Indian crowd waving Indian flags, conversing in Hindi and wearing Indian cricket team shirts to know that this is rubbish.

It was so bad that even former Libertarian and One Nation MP Mark Latham tweeted about it in Sydney, writing: “Little India. No need to travel to Mumbai for this cricketing experience. SCG Day 2.”

The point is many of these people have Australian citizenship, and despite what Jordan and the magic soil brigade tell themselves it is obvious that their identity and allegiance is clearly with India.

And this is just one group we’ve imported.

I’ve noticed that this is a common tactic among civic nationalists and libertarians when they are losing a debate about immigration and Australian identity. None of them want to mention the “evil” White Australia Policy or the history of our nation and what it was actually founded on.

Simply put, if anyone can be Australian then no-one is Australian. What’s the point of having a nation then? Just call us an Economic Zone and be done with it.
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Grin Grin Grin Grin


i think Frank overdosed on stupid pills again Cheesy
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Not only that. Indians claim to be Cricket loving people!
But you hardly see any of them at the BBL matches or a Test in Australia that doesn't have India in it.

Pretty obvious that if Australia went to war. None of them would volunteer to fight for this country.
I very much doubt even Chinese nationalised would join either.
That's a double whammy of racism and culturalism folks.
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"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The Mayor of London is a Muslim.
The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.
The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.
The Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.
The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.
The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.
The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim.

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Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim. 
Ken Wood?


The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim. 
Jayne Dunn?



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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim. 
Ken Wood?


The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim. 
Jayne Dunn?





Lord Mayor of Birmingham, Councillor Ken Wood


...

Despite the accent the Lord Mayor is pleased to declare his Brummie credentials as he was born in Loveday Street Maternity Hospital. His dad was an engineer and former RAF technician and his mother worked at Fort Dunlop having moved down from Scotland to get married.

When his parent’s marriage broke up the Lord Mayor was taken to Scotland where he was brought up by his mother along with his grandparents in a small village near Edinburgh.

He grew up delivering milk for the local farmer and working on the farm during his school holidays and has fond memories of capers in the milking parlour and in the fields at harvest time – not to mention the witnessing of the odd ‘James Heriot’ moment when the cows were in calf.
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Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The Mayor of London is a Muslim.
The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.
The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.
The Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.
The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.
The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.
The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk9W0BqXQAAiPcj?.png



All this was achieved by only 4 million Muslims out of 66 million people in England:

Today there are over 3,000 mosques in England.

There are over 130 sharia courts.

There are more than 50 Sharia Councils.

78 percent of Muslim women do not work, receive state support + free accommodation.

63 percent of Muslims do not work, receive state support + free housing.

State-supported Muslim families with an average of 6 to 8 children receive free accommodation.

Now every school in the UK is required to teach lessons about Islam.

Has anyone ever been given an opportunity to vote for this?
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Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The Mayor of London is a Muslim.
The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.
The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.
The Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.
The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.
The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.
The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk9W0BqXQAAiPcj?.png

Towns where the Muslim rape gangs have been operating for decades.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim. 
Ken Wood?


The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim. 
Jayne Dunn?





Lord Mayor of Birmingham, Councillor Ken Wood


https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/images/Lord_Mayor_of_Birmingham_Ken_Wood.jpeg

Despite the accent the Lord Mayor is pleased to declare his Brummie credentials as he was born in Loveday Street Maternity Hospital. His dad was an engineer and former RAF technician and his mother worked at Fort Dunlop having moved down from Scotland to get married.

When his parent’s marriage broke up the Lord Mayor was taken to Scotland where he was brought up by his mother along with his grandparents in a small village near Edinburgh.

He grew up delivering milk for the local farmer and working on the farm during his school holidays and has fond memories of capers in the milking parlour and in the fields at harvest time – not to mention the witnessing of the odd ‘James Heriot’ moment when the cows were in calf.


He's not a Muslim.

And neither is Jayne Dunn.

Why did you lie, Frannie?

How many other things on your list are bullshit?

I'm curious.



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Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:22pm:
Now every school in the UK is required to teach lessons about Islam.



“The government does not specify the content for religious education, what should be taught as part of it, or how it should be delivered,” a spokesperson for the Department of Education said in an email to Reuters.


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Islam brings no improvement, only degradation, to Western societies. Yes we are importing Muslims who do not integrate, who actively set themselves against the societies that take them in. Madness.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:37pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim. 
Ken Wood?


The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim. 
Jayne Dunn?





Lord Mayor of Birmingham, Councillor Ken Wood


https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/images/Lord_Mayor_of_Birmingham_Ken_Wood.jpeg

Despite the accent the Lord Mayor is pleased to declare his Brummie credentials as he was born in Loveday Street Maternity Hospital. His dad was an engineer and former RAF technician and his mother worked at Fort Dunlop having moved down from Scotland to get married.

When his parent’s marriage broke up the Lord Mayor was taken to Scotland where he was brought up by his mother along with his grandparents in a small village near Edinburgh.

He grew up delivering milk for the local farmer and working on the farm during his school holidays and has fond memories of capers in the milking parlour and in the fields at harvest time – not to mention the witnessing of the odd ‘James Heriot’ moment when the cows were in calf.


He's not a Muslim.

And neither is Jayne Dunn.

Why did you lie, Frannie?

How many other things on your list are bullshit?

I'm curious.






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Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 1:23pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The Mayor of London is a Muslim.
The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.
The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.
The Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.
The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.
The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.
The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk9W0BqXQAAiPcj?.png

Towns where the Muslim rape gangs have been operating for decades.



Birmingham mayors:


Mohammed Azim            2019–2022
Muhammad Afzal            2021–2022



I say Mohammed, you say Muhammad... nuffin to do wiv Islam.

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Celebrate Lack of Diversity


...

So an Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman walk into a pub, and discover that everyone in there is from the Indian sub-continent. Except for the token Welshman. Who's black.

What we used to call the British Isles contain two sovereign states and, setting aside the Isle of Man and the Crown Dependencies, five principal political jurisdictions:

In London, the Prime Minister is a Hindu whose dad is a Punjabi from British East Africa. His opposite number in Dublin, the Taoiseach (a word Joe Biden just about managed to say this weekend), likewise has a Hindu father, who emigrated from Bombay to England.

The First Minister of Scotland also has a Punjabi pa, but this time Muslim. In the next Scottish election, he'll be battling it out with the Leader of the Opposition, who is another Punjabi Muslim.

The largest city in these islands is London, whose mayor is a Muslim with parents from Pakistan.

Celebrate lack of diversity! Is it possible to rise to the top in Anglo-Celtic politics without being from the Indian sub-continent? Why, yes: The new First Minister of Wales was born in Zambia. He is being hailed as the first black leader of a European country.

So the governments of the United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and London are, as The Spectator puts it, "now led by what no one calls 'politicians of colour'".



No Great Replacement, no. That is such a 'conspiwacy theowy". No. It is Vibrant (lack of) Diversity. Noice.



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Soren, you are the best example we have on a lack of national unity in Australia.  All you do is criticise.  Everything is wrong in the world according to you.  Nothing is right.  You really are alone.  I pity you.  I really do.  All you can do is Troll and snipe from under your bridge.  You sit there and listen for anybody approaching and you snipe away.  Such a WOFTAM, such a loser.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:43pm:
Soren, you are the best example we have on a lack of national unity in Australia.  All you do is criticise.  Everything is wrong in the world according to you.  Nothing is right.  You really are alone.  I pity you.  I really do.  All you can do is Troll and snipe from under your bridge.  You sit there and listen for anybody approaching and you snipe away.  Such a WOFTAM, such a loser.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:43pm:
Soren, you are the best example we have on a lack of national unity in Australia.  All you do is criticise.  Everything is wrong in the world according to you.  Nothing is right.  You really are alone.  I pity you.  I really do.  All you can do is Troll and snipe from under your bridge.  You sit there and listen for anybody approaching and you snipe away.  Such a WOFTAM, such a loser.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


And he's become a hundred times worse since his guy - Trump - won the election.

Despite getting exactly what he wanted, the old boy whines even more now   Roll Eyes



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Reply #78 - Mar 7th, 2025 at 7:52am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 9:43pm:
Soren, you are the best example we have on a lack of national unity in Australia.  All you do is criticise.  Everything is wrong in the world according to you.  Nothing is right.  You really are alone.  I pity you.  I really do.  All you can do is Troll and snipe from under your bridge.  You sit there and listen for anybody approaching and you snipe away.  Such a WOFTAM, such a loser.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



LONDON — In a touching moment, a local imam in the heart of London started off the Jumu'ah prayer service with a land acknowledgment of the indigenous Britons who once inhabited the Muslim territory now known as "London."


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Teen who bashed Sikh security guard in Bendigo argues for bail because he’s aboriginal


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The Sahel region of Africa is the "epicentre of global terrorism" and now, for the first time, accounts for "over half of all terrorism-related deaths", according to the Global Terrorism Index (GTI).

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Reply #80 - Mar 7th, 2025 at 2:25pm
 
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The Mayor of London is a Muslim.
The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.
The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.
The Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.
The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.
The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.
The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk9W0BqXQAAiPcj?.png


It's completely impossible to believe that a musso mayor was elected in Rochdale after the betrayal of 1400 girls who were left at the mercy of those sadistic musso sex abuse gangs.  It was said at the time it was the biggest peacetime crime and cover-up in British history.  Have people forgotten so soon?

I had a look at the musso population of Rochdale and it's the largest in Britain but at 13.9% it's still a lot less than the 86.1% who are non musso.   Undecided

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Reply #82 - Mar 7th, 2025 at 3:32pm
 
Aquarius wrote on Mar 7th, 2025 at 2:25pm:
Frank wrote on Mar 3rd, 2025 at 11:07am:
"This is how you take over a nation by soft jihad.

The Mayor of London is a Muslim.
The mayor of Birmingham is a Muslim.
The Mayor of Leeds is Muslim.
The Mayor of Blackburn - Muslim.
The mayor of Sheffield is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oxford is a Muslim.
The mayor of Luton is a Muslim.
The mayor of Oldham is Muslim.
The mayor of Rochdale is Muslim.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk9W0BqXQAAiPcj?.png


It's completely impossible to believe that a musso mayor was elected in Rochdale after the betrayal of 1400 girls who were left at the mercy of those sadistic musso sex abuse gangs.  It was said at the time it was the biggest peacetime crime and cover-up in British history.  Have people forgotten so soon?

I had a look at the musso population of Rochdale and it's the largest in Britain but at 13.9% it's still a lot less than the 86.1% who are non musso.   Undecided




Rochdale Mayor Shakil Ahmed: Police search home of Labour councillor whose 'Syria-bound' son was detained in Turkey


The Mayoress:
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Her sister was also detained on her way to Syria.


Rochdale, 35 % 'Asian, ie Pakistani and Bangladeshi (east Pakistani).
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Reply #83 - Mar 7th, 2025 at 3:56pm
 
France needs to do something about those Mussos in Europe.
Especially when it deems itself top dog there and superior to the British still.
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NEW SURVEY: 7 in 10 Europeans believe that their country is accepting too many migrants

Results broken down by country:

🇬🇷 Greece: 90% of citizens   
🇨🇾 Cyprus: 84% of citizens                     
🇮🇪 Ireland: 78% of citizens   
🇦🇹 Austria: 77% of citizens 
🇩🇪 Germany: 77% of citizens 
🇧🇬 Bulgaria: 76% of citizens
🇵🇱 Poland: 75% of citizens 
🇮🇹 Italy: 74% of citizens 
🇫🇷 France: 70% of citizens 
🇪🇸 Spain: 70% of citizens
🇸🇪 Sweden: 70% of citizens

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Reply #86 - Mar 7th, 2025 at 4:58pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Mar 7th, 2025 at 4:46pm:

Ah, decades of education, allegedly, and training in strategic thought brings wisdom and insight  - another inane, irrelevant meme.



Here's the funniest thing:
How ****ing stupid would you be without your alleged education and training in strategic thought??  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Off the bloody moronic scale you are, nappy shhitter. John Smith is an articulate sage compared to you, and he is thich as mince.

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