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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 42851 Gender:	Re: China intimidates Australia Reply #30 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 12:33pm Why was a Chinese military ship in the Arufura Sea within Australia's exclusive economic zone? The Australian aircraft was patrolling our own waters.
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Reply #31 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

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Reply #33 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

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Reply #34 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:32pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

Australia is patrolling its borders and it's not for the bloody Chinese bullies to laser target Australian patrol planes over Australian zones.

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Reply #35 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:46pm

Frank wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

Australia is patrolling its borders and it's not for the bloody Chinese bullies to laser target Australian patrol planes over Australian zones.

We are not going to be told the whole story ever. This is a beat up and it is perfectly conceivable that (if anything happened at all) our aircraft 'pinged' that ship (which was lawfully entitled to be where it was) deliberately to extract a reaction...a laser.....which Morrison can then whinge about for election purposes.

The 'fear' agenda.

Political bullshit like Hayseed's 'kids overboard' blatant far king lie.

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Reply #36 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 3:00pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:46pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

Australia is patrolling its borders and it's not for the bloody Chinese bullies to laser target Australian patrol planes over Australian zones.

We are not going to be told the whole story ever. This is a beat up and it is perfectly conceivable that (if anything happened at all) our aircraft 'pinged' that ship (which was lawfully entitled to be where it was) deliberately to extract a reaction...a laser.....which Morrison can then whinge about for election purposes.

The 'fear' agenda.

Political bullshit like Hayseed's 'kids overboard' blatant far king lie.

You only say this because the Libs are in government. You will side with anyone against a Liberal government in Canberra.

If this happened with Albo in The Lodge you would be either silent of siding with the Australian government.

Shame.

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Re: China intimidates Australia
Reply #37 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 3:08pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:46pm:

Frank wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 2:32pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

Australia is patrolling its borders and it's not for the bloody Chinese bullies to laser target Australian patrol planes over Australian zones.

1. We are not going to be told the whole story ever.

2. This is a beat up and it is perfectly conceivable that (if anything happened at all) our aircraft 'pinged' that ship (which was lawfully entitled to be where it was) deliberately to extract a reaction...a laser.....which Morrison can then whinge about for election purposes.

3. The 'fear' agenda.

4. Political bullshit like Hayseed's 'kids overboard' blatant far king lie.

1. That's a given. I mean the subject matter alone would be enough of a clue.

2. - 4. You do realise that YOU are attempting to give US the whole story Aussie. And that's straight after you admitted that we're not going to be given the whole story.

I found that interesting.

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Reply #38 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 3:12pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/national-location-information/dimensions/...

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Reply #39 - Feb 21^st, 2022 at 3:25pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 3:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:18pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 21^st, 2022 at 1:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:45pm:

Yes Aussie, the military totally fabricated the incident just for Morrison. As usual you're as thick a pigschit.

Professor Blaxland said the action was a “threat to the aircraft, and it is the precursor to the firing of a kinetic weapon” such as a machine gun, cannon or missile.

“That’s what you do — you laser designate, then you engage. That’s the precursor signal of an attack, and it’s a microsecond away.

“So it is a particularly hostile act, it’s particularly hostile thing to do – quite adversarial and designed to intimidate just below the kinetic threshold.”

It is not the first time China has used lasers against Australian aircraft, with navy helicopter pilots reporting being hit by lasers while exercising in the South China Sea in 2019, forcing them to land nearby as a precaution.

In 2018, the United States issued a formal complaint to the Chinese government over the use of military-grade lasers directed at aircraft which resulted in minor injuries to two American pilots.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/act-of-intimidation-australia-demands-an...

Grandma/egg sucking.

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

They were in our waters not us in theirs.

'Our waters?'

How many ks off Australian soil? Arafura Sea?

Ferfuxsake.

'Economic zone.'

Any ship of any nation is entitled to be there.

http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/national-location-information/dimensions/...

Fuqqed if I know why you feel the need to post what we all already know......or should know.

The Chinese ship was lawfully entitled to be there. Simple as that.

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Reply #40 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 9:13pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 4:34pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 4:14pm:

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says a Chinese military vessel shining a laser at an Australian maritime aircraft was an "act of intimidation" that put Defence Force lives at risk.

Defence says the incident occurred at 12:35am on Thursday, when an RAAF P-8A Poseidon detected a military-grade laser illuminating the aircraft while in flight just north of Australia.

Up to 10 personnel were on board the aircraft when the incident occurred.

The Department of Defence says the Chinese vessel, in company with another People's Liberation Army-Navy (PLA-N) ship, was sailing east through the Arafura Sea at the time.

Mr Morrison said the laser could have disabled the aircraft, putting the entire crew at risk.

"I can see it no other way than an act of intimidation, one that was unprovoked, unwarranted and Australia will never accept such acts of intimidation," he said.

"It was a reckless and irresponsible act and it should not occur.

"We are raising those issues directly through the diplomatic and defence channels."

Frogshit. Just Morrison beating up an incident which likely occurs on a routine basis.

How many times have you heard of lasers being pointed at commercial aircraft inside Australia.

Did the PM get all uppity about that?

Thought you had left?

Hey Aussie,
So the laser incident was a Morrison beat up.
Is this one an Albo beat up?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-07/china-warns-australia-after-raaf-south-ch...

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Reply #43 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 9:51pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 6:33pm:

Thinking some more on this.

Fair dinkum. Are our military aircraft so pissweak that they can be disabled by a military laser? Really? An expensive aircraft full of technology rendered useless by a bit of 'cheap' laser? Rubbish..

Give it some more thought. These lasers on a Chinese warship would not be like the laser pointers you buy at a store around town. These lasers would even be more powerful than the restricted laser pointers available for purchase that can actually do some damage to people's skin with prolonged usage. I am talking about military-grade lasers that are there to serve a purpose.

Given the knowledge that you can disable some security cameras or dash cameras about town with certain hand held laser pointers strong enough. You could imagine that the Chinese warship was possibly trying to disable/disrupt the RAAF's capabilities of video recording the activities of the plane being flown. That is an ominous sign, if you think it through to a thorough possible conclusion.

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Reply #44 - Jun 7^th, 2022 at 10:00pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2022 at 7:01pm:

And that aircraft might just as easily and conveniently 'pinged' the ship as I described.

We will be fed bullshit.

Look at the political context ferfuxsake.

You may be right. There could be some selective reporting going on here where the RAAF did something to provoke a response from the Chinese warship. But that may or may not have happened. The Chinese military is usually hypersensitive about anything. Their government are usually hypersensitive to any form of criticism from anywhere. So, with their (the Chinese) history well-established that China is easily provoked by outsiders, we can continue to believe that the Chinese broke some international law/rule in regards to this incident. Otherwise, we await a response by witnesses showing evidence that state a provocation from the RAAF.

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