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Reply #30 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 8:54am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:39am:
Rights rights rights
That's all white night ever thinks of

there is no meaning in life when all you think of is your own personal situation
and how others need to Grant you your rights

The meaning to life white night
is not in your rights but in your responsibilities

You need to

Lift a load
Make it a heavy load so that after you lift it you can feel some legitimate self-satisfaction that you are the sort of creature who can lift a load

Taking on responsibilities makes you stronger
Telling other people that they owe you something makes you weaker

I wish you would understand that


So you dont think homeless ppl who haven fallen on hard times (disabled, aged etc) should have anywhere to live?

Spot


Borg - I heard an amazing interview of someone who has helped homeless people for over a decade.
The question was from the interviewer - 'What is the difference between one of these homeless people and a normal person?'

The answer - "About 2 weeks."

He is an expert, he works on that field.
In 2 weeks, a 'normal' person can often find themselves homeless.

It could be caused by marriage breakdown, death in a family, being sacked from work, ill health, mental collapse.

In 2 weeks, many people can go from having a roof over their heads to not.
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Reply #31 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:00am
 
The solution to this problem sprint is the following

Become a giver

If you are someone who gives first
And doesn't wallow in self-pity

If you do that for your entire life
You will literally have dozens of people who are delighted to have you around

And if you fall upon hard times
They will be queuing up to offer you a bed and a roof over your head

If you are a whining cry baby
Full of selfish self-pity and spraying your negative emotion all over the place
No one is going to invite you into their house

The solution to homelessness is to work on yourself
And become a cheerful joyful pleasure to be around
Then you will always be welcome

It is the exact opposite of what modern crybaby entitled politics espouses
Modern governments encourage people to be the eternal infant
Who wants to open up their house and have another infant to look after

But if you are strong competent cheerful joyful and helpful
What person in their right mind would not want you around
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Re: Legislate A Human Right To Housing In Australia
Reply #32 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:05am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:39am:
Rights rights rights
That's all white night ever thinks of

there is no meaning in life when all you think of is your own personal situation
and how others need to Grant you your rights

The meaning to life white night
is not in your rights but in your responsibilities

You need to

Lift a load
Make it a heavy load so that after you lift it you can feel some legitimate self-satisfaction that you are the sort of creature who can lift a load

Taking on responsibilities makes you stronger
Telling other people that they owe you something makes you weaker

I wish you would understand that


So you dont think homeless ppl who haven fallen on hard times (disabled, aged etc) should have anywhere to live?

Spot


Borg - I heard an amazing interview of someone who has helped homeless people for over a decade.
The question was from the interviewer - 'What is the difference between one of these homeless people and a normal person?'

The answer - "About 2 weeks."

He is an expert, he works on that field.
In 2 weeks, a 'normal' person can often find themselves homeless.

It could be caused by marriage breakdown, death in a family, being sacked from work, ill health, mental collapse.

In 2 weeks, many people can go from having a roof over their heads to not.


There but for the grace of god go thee.
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Re: Legislate A Human Right To Housing In Australia
Reply #33 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:07am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:00am:
The solution to this problem sprint is the following

Become a giver

If you are someone who gives first
And doesn't wallow in self-pity

If you do that for your entire life
You will literally have dozens of people who are delighted to have you around

And if you fall upon hard times
They will be queuing up to offer you a bed and a roof over your head

If you are a whining cry baby
Full of selfish self-pity and spraying your negative emotion all over the place
No one is going to invite you into their house

The solution to homelessness is to work on yourself
And become a cheerful joyful pleasure to be around
Then you will always be welcome

It is the exact opposite of what modern crybaby entitled politics espouses
Modern governments encourage people to be the eternal infant
Who wants to open up their house and have another infant to look after

But if you are strong competent cheerful joyful and helpful
What person in their right mind would not want you around


You just live in an absolute fantasy world.
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Re: Legislate A Human Right To Housing In Australia
Reply #34 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:18am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:00am:
The solution to this problem sprint is the following

Become a giver

If you are someone who gives first
And doesn't wallow in self-pity

If you do that for your entire life
You will literally have dozens of people who are delighted to have you around

And if you fall upon hard times
They will be queuing up to offer you a bed and a roof over your head



lol... if you did that these days the only reason why dozens of people would be "delighted to have you around" and be "queuing up" to get to you would be so they can take advantage of you and rip you off and say to themselves: "what a sucker".
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Reply #35 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:31am
 
Good grief Carl that is appalling

I would imagine I could name a dozen neighbours who would take me in
Since we always help each other out
I think I could name a dozen people at the local bush fire brigade who would take me in
All of my children would gladly give me accommodation
As would my sister's

if I came home from work today and found my house had burnt to the ground
it would take me all of 90 seconds to organise accommodation

What sort of fantasy world do people like mothra live in
Where they think people are not networked together in such a way that they would help each other out

I can understand if you are a bitter cruel resentful angry feminist who spends all your time on the internet
Being outraged
That no one is going to want you around

But all someone like mothra would need to do is become a fun joyful
Positive non outraged not bitter not resentful contributor and she would immediately find accommodation

Someone like that should join the country women's association
And bake cakes and lamingtons for the CWA
And get out of their angry bubble
And develop some friendships Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Legislate A Human Right To Housing In Australia
Reply #36 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:43am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:31am:
Good grief Carl that is appalling


Maybe... but, I have no doubt it is a bit closer to reality than your fantasies.

However, I'm pretty sure family and (most of) your neighbours would be prepared to help you out if needed but your post suggested that you become a "giver" to every Tom, Dick and Harry that you encounter and anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that approach probably isn't going to work out too well for you these days.
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Reply #37 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 10:11am
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:00am:
The solution to this problem sprint is the following

Become a giver

If you are someone who gives first
And doesn't wallow in self-pity

If you do that for your entire life
You will literally have dozens of people who are delighted to have you around

And if you fall upon hard times
They will be queuing up to offer you a bed and a roof over your head

If you are a whining cry baby
Full of selfish self-pity and spraying your negative emotion all over the place
No one is going to invite you into their house

The solution to homelessness is to work on yourself
And become a cheerful joyful pleasure to be around
Then you will always be welcome

It is the exact opposite of what modern crybaby entitled politics espouses
Modern governments encourage people to be the eternal infant
Who wants to open up their house and have another infant to look after

But if you are strong competent cheerful joyful and helpful
What person in their right mind would not want you around


Good thoughts Aqua.
Thank you
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Re: Legislate A Human Right To Housing In Australia
Reply #38 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 10:11am
 
You don't need to be a naive giver
But you do need to recognise that the path forward to building a protective social pier group
Is always going to involve extending yourself and establishing a reputation as something other than

Selfish crybaby

Interestingly those are the lessons of constructing a successful small business
Be generous
Establish the right sort of reputation in the community
I gave the example of the plumber who my nephew is apprentice to
Who always does free work for pensioners at the end of the day
Even when they offer him money to change a tap washer he refuses

Is he just a naive plumber being taken advantage of by the community

I don't think so

The guys a millionaire with 5 plumbing vans
He is joyful and he cannot cope with the amount of work that flows to him
When he changes a tap washer for free for some old grandmother
She tells her 16 grandchildren about his generosity
And bingo
after 10 years a million dollars appears in his bank account

Just like magic
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Re: Legislate A Human Right To Housing In Australia
Reply #39 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 11:29am
 
mothra wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:07am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:00am:
The solution to this problem sprint is the following

Become a giver

If you are someone who gives first
And doesn't wallow in self-pity

If you do that for your entire life
You will literally have dozens of people who are delighted to have you around

And if you fall upon hard times
They will be queuing up to offer you a bed and a roof over your head

If you are a whining cry baby
Full of selfish self-pity and spraying your negative emotion all over the place
No one is going to invite you into their house

The solution to homelessness is to work on yourself
And become a cheerful joyful pleasure to be around
Then you will always be welcome

It is the exact opposite of what modern crybaby entitled politics espouses
Modern governments encourage people to be the eternal infant
Who wants to open up their house and have another infant to look after

But if you are strong competent cheerful joyful and helpful
What person in their right mind would not want you around


You just live in an absolute fantasy world.



Aquascoot's complete disregard for those who don't fit his ideals, compete with the the caring nature of a true eugenicist.

There is a certain ideological disdain and heartlessness shown for those who don't/can't belong to his group.

Well, this is how he chooses to express himself here on the forum, anyway!

 
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Reply #40 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 11:41am
 
The Australian government should legislate a human right to housing so it takes responsibility for homelessness and provides enough social housing for the vulnerable, a new report and a leading academic say.


I'm sorry to say this WhiteKnight for your cause is always of good intentions.

...but a LOT of Public Housing must be destroyed because they are permanently infected with the toxicity of ICE, Amphetamines, etc. This is just as dangerous as living in an asbestos (broken) house.

Allowing people to re-inhabit these Houses, Units, etc that are only given a 'fresh paint job' - let alone to purchase them is just dangerous and irresponsible. People become very sick from inhabiting these places.

So how would you stop the junkies ruining another taxpayer free house?

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Reply #41 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 12:00pm
 
My father was a very low paid worker his entire life, Yet he afforded a house and raised two children.
We often went without, so be it.
We were taught to be careful with our money, and it has served us well.

But he worked and worked hard, never once unemployed....ever

Now lets look as some of the "Deserving" of free housing.
Never worked i their lives.....Quite a few of them, One entire Kultcha is full of them.
Do they deserve a free home???4

Drug addicts, wasting all their money on drugs .....Do they deserve a free home?

Dead beats, lazy drunks and worthless parasite....do they deserve a free house?

Anyone can afford to pay rent, the grubberment wastes my hard earned taxes on funding rent assistance.

If you cannot be bothered to even do a little work, or apply for help, its your own fault.

I do agree that mental health needs work,
There is a whole bunch of them that seriously needs help
LGBTQISELFISH, The terminally Offended, muzzos, etc.

But thats another matter
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Reply #42 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 12:15pm
 
0ktema wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 11:29am:
mothra wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:07am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 9:00am:
The solution to this problem sprint is the following

Become a giver

If you are someone who gives first
And doesn't wallow in self-pity

If you do that for your entire life
You will literally have dozens of people who are delighted to have you around

And if you fall upon hard times
They will be queuing up to offer you a bed and a roof over your head

If you are a whining cry baby
Full of selfish self-pity and spraying your negative emotion all over the place
No one is going to invite you into their house

The solution to homelessness is to work on yourself
And become a cheerful joyful pleasure to be around
Then you will always be welcome

It is the exact opposite of what modern crybaby entitled politics espouses
Modern governments encourage people to be the eternal infant
Who wants to open up their house and have another infant to look after

But if you are strong competent cheerful joyful and helpful
What person in their right mind would not want you around


You just live in an absolute fantasy world.



Aquascoot's complete disregard for those who don't fit his ideals, compete with the the caring nature of a true eugenicist.

There is a certain ideological disdain and heartlessness shown for those who don't/can't belong to his group.

Well, this is how he chooses to express himself here on the forum, anyway!

 


it is not a complete disregard.

it is simply advice that if you become a little self pitying selfish puke who cries all the time and plays the victim,   no on will want you around.

"laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone".

now, having ackowledged this very old and universal law, does it not demand of us that we try to stop people falling into victim mentality, into self pity, inot being sad , outraged and toxic?

FOR THEIR OWN WELFARE !!!!.

currently the average australian dwelling has 2 empty bedrooms...that PLENTY of surplus housing.

currently people rely on their iphone or their laptop as their only "friend'

what is wrong with the very sensible advice to "get out there and establish a "real" social network" Undecided Undecided Undecided
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Reply #43 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 12:20pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 8:20am:
mothra wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:43am:
cods wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
mothra wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:32am:
cods wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:28am:
Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

you are so full of hatred    you imagine what people say or mean  and make it truth to yourself...

no good dealing with you   you come here for one thing.. and one thing only....once you dump your load  off you go, probably to rage at mongs joint.......

its so tiring and predictable....you have nothing to offer this forum nothing at all...only vile  hate and trying to turn one member against another...


I don;t hate anyone or anything, Cods. Nef does though. She hates welfare recipients and you seem intent on defending her.

Why is that? I mean, aside form the fact that she says she like \s you.



OMG you hate everyone on ozpol.... you attack each and everyone of us everytime you come here...

god help anyone who claims they like cods.... I GET THAT I really do...you cant stand it can you?

I feel sorry for you!




You;'re just sounding shrill and hysterical now, Cods. Perhaps you'd better take a break form the screen for a while?



yes I will take a rest from you dear now its aquas turn...  all I can suggest is you dont read myself or nef in the future    I do read most of your posts  always on the same thing  but rarely reply....

as its pointless....

I say I have read a book and you say I haven't as if you have more knowledge on what i do than I have ..  you said you liked it  I said I didnt...so that means I didnt read it......... makes sense to you.....

so you see pet no reason to discuss anything with you..you make up your mind and thats the end of it...

so heres cheers..


You said it was written in southern drawl - which wasnt the book - it was the movie

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Reply #44 - Mar 15th, 2021 at 12:21pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 8:54am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Mar 15th, 2021 at 7:39am:
Rights rights rights
That's all white night ever thinks of

there is no meaning in life when all you think of is your own personal situation
and how others need to Grant you your rights

The meaning to life white night
is not in your rights but in your responsibilities

You need to

Lift a load
Make it a heavy load so that after you lift it you can feel some legitimate self-satisfaction that you are the sort of creature who can lift a load

Taking on responsibilities makes you stronger
Telling other people that they owe you something makes you weaker

I wish you would understand that


So you dont think homeless ppl who haven fallen on hard times (disabled, aged etc) should have anywhere to live?

Spot


Borg - I heard an amazing interview of someone who has helped homeless people for over a decade.
The question was from the interviewer - 'What is the difference between one of these homeless people and a normal person?'

The answer - "About 2 weeks."

He is an expert, he works on that field.
In 2 weeks, a 'normal' person can often find themselves homeless.

It could be caused by marriage breakdown, death in a family, being sacked from work, ill health, mental collapse.

In 2 weeks, many people can go from having a roof over their heads to not.

This is true to some degree, however despite some being in this category the issues of the majority of homeless  in this country are more about drug and alcohol abuse than suddenly finding themselves out of work. We need to be careful about extrapolating the issues in American society to Australia, 2 completely different situations. Australia has a pretty comprehensive social security net while the US does not.  And some people just cope better, thats just the way they are and that is a very complex issue in itself. I dont give 2 cents for that so called "expert " though, its the sort of misinformation that doesnt do much to help the problem.
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