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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1320 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:02pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 6:58pm:
Who cares, Boobhead?

The Chinese would have done it to save “face” which Sad Kangaroo explained really well but you didn’t read it, did you?

The US? Did they? Who in particular did and does it really matter now we know the wet market was the source of covid19?



they both did -
it was covered in this thread many times -
you can find it - I can't be bothered doing you any favors.
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Reply #1321 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:05pm
 
You posted endless crap in this thread.

The wet market not the lab, coon dogs not bats, gave rise to covid19.
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Reply #1322 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:15pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:05pm:
You posted endless crap in this thread.

The wet market not the lab, coon dogs not bats, gave rise to covid19.



The DNA sequences  in the Covid virus are full of
the parts of other viruses such as HIV AIDS that were spliced
in using gene technology by bio weapon, mad scientists.
At last count there were 5 sequences spliced in.
( that's why the Aussie vaccine couldn't be used - it detected AIDS )

That's also covered in this thread.
Go and find it - Monk the punk.

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Reply #1323 - Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:24pm
 
The closest you ever got to reality in the crap you flooded this thread with was a post about how some of the DNA in the spike(?) looked like DNA from ???another XYZ???

Of course, you didn’t follow tis clue up because you are stupid and uneducated.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1324 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 11:18am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:15pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:05pm:
You posted endless crap in this thread.

The wet market not the lab, coon dogs not bats, gave rise to covid19.



The DNA sequences  in the Covid virus are full of
the parts of other viruses such as HIV AIDS that were spliced
in using gene technology by bio weapon, mad scientists.
At last count there were 5 sequences spliced in.
( that's why the Aussie vaccine couldn't be used - it detected AIDS )

That's also covered in this thread.
Go and find it - Monk the punk.



Your problem is, you're using a lack of evidence as proof that something else is true.

And you're conflating the destruction of samples following standard procedures in the US, as the same thing that China has done with their attempts to contain the truth.

Just because China is trying to hide the truth doesn't mean what you believe to be true has somehow been proven.

You still need proof.

Lack of evidence for an opposing point of view doesn't make your narrative therefore true by default.

That's now how it works in the real world.

It might be enough for you and your fellow conspiracy nuts, but it's only your lack of education, low IQ and frightening placement in the Dunning-Kruger spectrum that has you convinced you're right, no evidence needed.

You always, Light to, make up for mind about a topic, then go looking for "evidence" to prove it.

Nothing can change your mind and any factual evidence that doesn't support your point of view is dismissed via the use of a plot of conspiracy by dark forces.

There is no debate to be had when you take such a position.

You're just a crazy person screams on the street corner.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1325 - Feb 21st, 2024 at 11:24am
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 11:18am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:15pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:05pm:
You posted endless crap in this thread.

The wet market not the lab, coon dogs not bats, gave rise to covid19.



The DNA sequences  in the Covid virus are full of
the parts of other viruses such as HIV AIDS that were spliced
in using gene technology by bio weapon, mad scientists.
At last count there were 5 sequences spliced in.
( that's why the Aussie vaccine couldn't be used - it detected AIDS )

That's also covered in this thread.
Go and find it - Monk the punk.



Your problem is, you're using a lack of evidence as proof that something else is true.

And you're conflating the destruction of samples following standard procedures in the US, as the same thing that China has done with their attempts to contain the truth.

Just because China is trying to hide the truth doesn't mean what you believe to be true has somehow been proven.

You still need proof.

Lack of evidence for an opposing point of view doesn't make your narrative therefore true by default.

That's now how it works in the real world.

It might be enough for you and your fellow conspiracy nuts, but it's only your lack of education, low IQ and frightening placement in the Dunning-Kruger spectrum that has you convinced you're right, no evidence needed.

You always, Light to, make up for mind about a topic, then go looking for "evidence" to prove it.

Nothing can change your mind and any factual evidence that doesn't support your point of view is dismissed via the use of a plot of conspiracy by dark forces.

There is no debate to be had when you take such a position.

You're just a crazy person screams on the street corner.


Very funny - what makes you think you know more?


https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

What Is the Dunning-Kruger Effect?

A cognitive bias that causes an overestimation of capability

By Kendra Cherry, MSEd
Updated on November 08, 2022



The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe they are smarter and more capable than they are. Essentially, low-ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their capabilities.1

The term lends a scientific name and explanation to a problem that many people immediately recognize—that fools are blind to their own foolishness. As Charles Darwin wrote in his book The Descent of Man, "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge."
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1326 - Feb 23rd, 2024 at 9:10pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 11:24am:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 21st, 2024 at 11:18am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:15pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 30th, 2024 at 7:05pm:
You posted endless crap in this thread.

The wet market not the lab, coon dogs not bats, gave rise to covid19.



The DNA sequences  in the Covid virus are full of
the parts of other viruses such as HIV AIDS that were spliced
in using gene technology by bio weapon, mad scientists.
At last count there were 5 sequences spliced in.
( that's why the Aussie vaccine couldn't be used - it detected AIDS )

That's also covered in this thread.
Go and find it - Monk the punk.



Your problem is, you're using a lack of evidence as proof that something else is true.

And you're conflating the destruction of samples following standard procedures in the US, as the same thing that China has done with their attempts to contain the truth.

Just because China is trying to hide the truth doesn't mean what you believe to be true has somehow been proven.

You still need proof.

Lack of evidence for an opposing point of view doesn't make your narrative therefore true by default.

That's now how it works in the real world.

It might be enough for you and your fellow conspiracy nuts, but it's only your lack of education, low IQ and frightening placement in the Dunning-Kruger spectrum that has you convinced you're right, no evidence needed.

You always, Light to, make up for mind about a topic, then go looking for "evidence" to prove it.

Nothing can change your mind and any factual evidence that doesn't support your point of view is dismissed via the use of a plot of conspiracy by dark forces.

There is no debate to be had when you take such a position.

You're just a crazy person screams on the street corner.


Very funny - what makes you think you know more?


https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

What Is the Dunning-Kruger Effect?

A cognitive bias that causes an overestimation of capability

By Kendra Cherry, MSEd
Updated on November 08, 2022



The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe they are smarter and more capable than they are. Essentially, low-ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their capabilities.1

The term lends a scientific name and explanation to a problem that many people immediately recognize—that fools are blind to their own foolishness. As Charles Darwin wrote in his book The Descent of Man, "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge."


What I'm saying is we don't know.

You're the one making claims based on evidence that doesn't exist.
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1327 - Feb 23rd, 2024 at 9:20pm
 
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 23rd, 2024 at 9:10pm:
What I'm saying is we don't know.

You're the one making claims based on evidence that doesn't exist.



It's a bit difficult to know when the WHO investigation
was blocked by China and the USA.

There has been a massive coverup.   Roll Eyes
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #1328 - Feb 23rd, 2024 at 11:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2024 at 9:20pm:
ProudKangaroo wrote on Feb 23rd, 2024 at 9:10pm:
What I'm saying is we don't know.

You're the one making claims based on evidence that doesn't exist.



It's a bit difficult to know when the WHO investigation
was blocked by China and the USA.

There has been a massive coverup.   Roll Eyes


And that's all we know.

We don't know why or what was covered up so not a single conclusion can be drawn from it, despite your multiple attempts.
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Reply #1329 - Mar 1st, 2024 at 2:42pm
 
Yep - Bobby was right all along.



https://nypost.com/2024/02/29/world-news/scientists-may-have-started-the-covid-p...

Scientist claims ‘smoking gun’ evidence
COVID-19 intentionally created by researchers in Chinese lab


By Social Links for Ronny Reyes
Published Feb. 29, 2024,


COVID-19 may have been created in a Chinese lab, a British professor told the UN Wednesday, with another expert claiming that evidence of the likelihood has reached “the level of a smoking gun.”

Richard H. Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, was quoted saying in a new Wall Street Journal article that the virus that killed millions around the world may actually have been manmade in China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology.

He cited evidence found in a 2018 document from the lab that talked of making such a virus.

“[The document] elevates the evidence provided by the genome sequence from the level of noteworthy to the level of a smoking gun,” Ebright said in the piece by former New York Times editor Nicholas Wade.

The papers from the lab cited by Ebright contained drafts and notes regarding a grant proposal called Project DEFUSE, which sought to test engineering bat coronaviruses in a way that would make them more easily transmissible to humans.

The proposal was ultimately rejected and denied funding by the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, but Wade suggested that their work could have been carried out by researchers in Wuhan who had secured Chinese government funding.


“Viruses made according to the DEFUSE protocol could have been available by the time Covid-19 broke out, sometime between August and November 2019,” wrote Wade, a former science editor of the New York Times.

“This would account for the otherwise unexplained timing of the pandemic along with its place of origin.” 

Along with the research notes, Wade claimed the specific genetic structure of the coronavirus that allowed it to infect humans served as another strong indication of “the virus’s laboratory birth.” 

“Whereas most viruses require repeated tries to switch from an animal host to people, SARS-CoV-2 infected humans out of the box, as if it had been preadapted while growing in the humanized mice called for in the DEFUSE protocol,” Wade wrote.


While scientists continue to debate whether the coronavirus pandemic was a natural occurrence or manmade, Ebright believed there was credibility that the work proposed by the now-controversial EcoHealth Alliance led to the development COVID-19.

Following the release of the 2018 documents — which were published by US Right to Know through a Freedom of Information Act request — Ebright said there was clearer evidence that the virus was manufactured in a lab, the Daily Telegraph reported.




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Reply #1330 - Mar 1st, 2024 at 2:45pm
 
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The 2018 documents contained drafts and notes regarding Project DEFUSE and how to synthesize bat coronaviruses to make them more transmissible.

The researchers proposed introducing “appropriate human-specific cleavage sites” to the spike proteins of SARS-related viruses in the lab, the same method several biologists have said could have been used to synthesize the coronavirus that led to the pandemic.

According to the documents, the researchers had planned to conduct a portion of the research at the Wuhan lab where they noted that safety conditions were not up to US standards, to the point where they claimed American scientists would “likely freak out.”


While COVID-19’s origins remain a mystery, Dr. Filippa Lentzos, an associate professor of science and international security at King’s College London, said the world needed to acknowledge that the possibility exists that the virus was synthesized.

Speaking before the UN in New York on Wednesday, Lentzos presented the work of the Independent Task Force on Research with Pandemic Risks, which calls on scientists the world over to follow stricter regulations lest another worldwide breakout occur, the Telegraph reports.
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“We have to acknowledge the fact that the pandemic could have started from some research-related incident,” Lentzos said.

“Are we going to find that out? In my view, I think it’s very unlikely that we will. We need to do better in the future,” she added.

“We are going to see more ambiguous events.” 


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Boxer
7 hours ago

Not at all surprised. This thing was too aggressive, too efficient, and its effects on people impacted such a wide variety of physical systems that it has always been clear that this was no normal virus. Have always, always believed that this was synthesized in a lab - and I'm not even a conspiracy theorist, just a realist.

Martin Sloan
4 hours ago

Agreed.  Makes you wonder when another will be "released".

Mister Coffee
5 hours ago

Well, when the average time a vaccine gets developed is 5 to 10 years. But with Covid comes out and 3 companies in the US already had a vaccine within a year.

Plus it happens to start in a city that has a giant virus lab. It doesn't take Columbo to out this one together.
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Reply #1331 - Mar 3rd, 2024 at 12:33pm
 
Australia is not looking into it:





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Reply #1332 - Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:15pm
 
Just more non-evidence.
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Reply #1333 - Mar 10th, 2024 at 3:41pm
 
Dot ball.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #1334 - Mar 10th, 2024 at 5:57pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 9th, 2024 at 9:15pm:
Just more non-evidence.



89 pages of wonderful evidence -

It's as large as a book.

I should have been a top selling book author.
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