Bobby. wrote on Aug 31
st, 2021 at 7:55am:
Yadda wrote on Aug 30
th, 2021 at 8:35am:
@ Reply #2603,
It was a different AGE bobby. .... ~3,400 years ago.
It was an age, when if a person broke his covenant with God, God required that persons life.
Deuteronomy 13:6
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
Guess what bobby ?
God still HATES all liars and deceivers.
So was it right for religious fundamentalists 3,400 years ago
to kill people who they considered had broken their covenant with God?
Turning words from an old book into murder is
the same horror we face today. bobby,
If we live in a universe without rules, then we [all of us!] can do exactly as we wish. !!
And there would be no personal responsibility [or penalty] for the consequence of any of our actions [i.e. choices].
e.g.
Romans 4:15
Because.....where no law is, there is no transgression.But we do NOT live in that universe.
We do live in a universe and a world, where there are rules !
bobby,
Imagine a world where there are no rules.
Maybe you want to live in
that world ?
But i
do not want to live in such a world. [e.g. all i need do, is to look around me,
and everyday, i see a world, where some human beings DO live without any respect for rules.
they are called murderers and/or liars.]
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bobby said....
Quote:Turning words from an old book into murder is
the same horror we face today.
I see.
'RULES', TO LIVE BY, IN JUDAISM.....'from an old book'
Exodus 19:7
And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
8 And all the people answered together, and said,
All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
Numbers 30:2
If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
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'RULES', TO LIVE BY, IN ISLAM.....n.b.
All things are permissible, to the moslem man, if they are permitted by ISLAMIC law.
And killing a person who rejects the primacy of ISLAMIC law, is, lawful.
100% true !
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