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Wind power backed by pumped hydro
Oct 25th, 2026 at 1:36pm
 
Excerpt: "In the arena of the energy transition, various entire countries, and U.S. states, have offered up their whole populations as guinea pigs for this grand experiment conducted by people who have no idea what they are doing.  Germany, the UK, California and New York are prominent examples.  And then at the other end of the scale, we have a small island named El Hierro off the coast of Spain.  El Hierro only has about 11,000 people, but in 2008 it set out to show the world how to do a full transition to an electric system powered only by wind turbines backed up by a hydro-electric energy storage system.

I have reported on the progress of the El Hierro system multiple times, for example here in 2022, here in 2023, and here in 2024.  But it has been more than two years since my last update.  So let’s check in.

What makes El Hierro significant is that the promoters actually thought they were going to make a full-time grid based just on the wind turbines and storage.  We know that because they have said so repeatedly.  But somehow, in their quasi-religious devotion to the cause, they never took time to do the straightforward arithmetic calculations that would have revealed what makes this unworkable.

The El Hierro wind/storage electricity system has the name Gorona del Viento.  The system started operating in 2013.  The Gorona del Viento entity has a website with large portions in English where you can go to see their claims, and measure those against the actual performance in real life.  From the opening page:

An island 100% renewable energy. . . .  Gorona del Viento El Hierro, S.A.´s Wind-Pumped Hydro Power Station is designed to supply the Meridian Island with electrical energy derived from clean, renewable energy sources such as water and wind.  The Wind Farm has capacity to fully meet El Hierro´s demand for electricity. The surplus wind energy which is not consumed by the Island´s population is used to pump water from a lower reservoir to a higher reservoir. This water is stored in the upper reservoir and used to produce electricity by means of a hidraulic jump at times when the wind power is inadequate.      

Emphasis added.). They explicitly brag that the island will have “100% renewable energy,” and that the wind farm “has the capacity” to fully meet the demand for electricity.  The wind farm actually has well more than that “capacity” — if nameplate “capacity” were the relevant factor in determining if a generation system can supply demand as it appears.  Read on in the website, and you find out that the wind farm has a nameplate capacity of 11.5 MW, whereas average electricity demand on the island is less than 5 MW.  So there is well more than a 2x “overbuild.”  With a big elevated pumped reservoir to store energy for when the wind isn’t blowing, surely that should be sufficient to meet the goal.

After the first few years of operation, in 2018 Gorona del Viento started putting out some detailed statistics on the performance of the system.  This link goes to a page containing further links to individual pages with the statistics for 2018 and succeeding years.  In the first year reported, 2018, the wind/storage system provided 56% of the electricity for the island, with the remainder provided by a diesel generator that they had (thankfully) kept as backup.  But then it never really got better.    In 2019 it was 54%; in 2020, 42%; in 2021, 48%; in 2022, 48%; and in 2023, only 35%; for 2024 45%; and for 2025, 44%.  Here is their bar chart for 2023:

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“Llanos Blancos” refers to the backup diesel system.

So the headline page brags about “100% renewable energy,” but in actual performance the best they have ever achieved over a full year is barely over 50%, and the last time they broke 50% was in 2019. 

Why can’t they get more than that from this seemingly overbuilt system?  Because there are long stretches where the wind does not blow.  During those stretches the storage reservoir gets emptied and can’t be refilled.  My 2022 post mentioned above linked to a calculation by a guy named Roger Andrews at the Energy Matters website showing that, to reach self-sufficiency with just a wind/storage system, El Hierro would need about double the wind turbine capacity and some 40 times the storage capacity (to deal with worst-case wind droughts).  Even if they could afford such a reservoir, they have no place on the island to put it."

Full story: https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2026-10-23-ideologues-try-their-hand-at...
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Reply #1 - Oct 28th, 2026 at 10:04am
 
Integrating wind energy alongside solar, hydro, and conventional power creates a more resilient energy mix that lowers the risk of supply shortfalls but it can not be relied on as main and/or only source.

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Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2026 at 11:33am
 
Especially when Solar was new and people benefited.
Now, the Electricity Companies and Govt take their share via money.
What's the point now, its no longer FREE energy
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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2026 at 12:21pm
 
"Meanwhile, in the face of the experience of El Hierro, places like New York, California, Germany and the UK (and Australia) continue to plow forward as if wind/solar/storage electricity systems can work.  It’s as if it’s not possible to learn from experience."


Ideology is impervious to experience.




Snowy 2.0 sticks out among Australia’s energy policy failures because it is so big and its latest estimated cost is 12 times its initial claims (or 25 times when you account for its share of consequential transmission, other on-costs and financing cost).

Do failures get any bigger than this? Perhaps not as a proportion of the starting claim, but actually in dollar terms it is not that unusual in Australia’s energy transition. Massive transmission interconnectors promoted by the Australian Energy Market Operator – and linked to Snowy 2.0 – are now estimated to cost, typically, about six times their initial estimates. The aggregate gap between their initial claims and likely outturn will be bigger than Snowy 2.0.

Huge, complex projects such as Snowy 2.0 or very high voltage powerlines reveal their true social and economic costs gradually, in the course of their development.

Prudent developers and regulators may not be able to predict everything accurately, but if they are doing their jobs properly they would have come up with much more realistic estimates at the outset. They have not done so because the grand plans that underlie those pipedreams are built on ideology and the supposed political advantage they offer.

Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull’s response to the latest Snowy Groundhog Day captures this perfectly. The problem, according to Turnbull, is that Australia lacks experience with big complex projects. There was nothing specifically wrong with Snowy 2.0, he says, and to fix the problem we should build more of them.

I doubt Australia lacks expertise in big complex projects: ours is a resource economy that thrives on successfully overcoming big complex engineering challenges.

But it is certainly true that the Australian government lacks experience in big, complex projects.
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