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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30225 Gender:	Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU Oct 17^th, 2026 at 2:45pm Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help. https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-i...
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Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Reply #1 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

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Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Reply #2 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:46pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Source?

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Reply #3 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:53pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Source?

Source for what?

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Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Reply #4 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:59pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:53pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Source?

Source for what?

Don't play cute with us, old boy. Stop hiding your source. Post it.

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Reply #5 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 5:55pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

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Reply #6 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 6:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?

Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.

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Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Reply #7 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 7:08pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?

Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.

We know what it's about, old boy. Every Western, democratic, Enlightened, superior, liber...

Oh, you know the word. Mette, Albo, Burnham, everyone - except your DL.

Except you. Funny how he makes you go all weak at the knees.

You'll eat it and you'll like it. You're a Vlad man now.

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Reply #9 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 7:59pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

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Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Reply #10 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 8:00pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?

Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.

We know what it's about, old boy. Every Western, democratic, Enlightened, superior, liber...

Oh, you know the word. Mette, Albo, Burnham, everyone - except your DL.

Except you. Funny how he makes you go all weak at the knees.

You'll eat it and you'll like it. You're a Vlad man now.

Yes, Master.

You are gesticulating and grimacing incoherenty, as always, geriatric homosexual fantasist.

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Reply #11 - Oct 17^th, 2026 at 9:08pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 2:45pm:

Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-i...

more to the point, trump is aiding putin

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Reply #12 - Oct 18^th, 2026 at 1:02am

tallowood wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 2:45pm:

Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-i...

Zelya and his friends

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Reply #13 - Oct 18^th, 2026 at 7:08am

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 4:25pm:

So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.

The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.

Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?

Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.

Are you suggesting that Ukraine just give up, let Russia keep the territory it has invaded and wait for the next time Putin invades? Would you accept your country being invaded and being told by Trump to suck it up?

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Reply #14 - Oct 18^th, 2026 at 7:09am

tallowood wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17^th, 2026 at 2:45pm:

Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-i...

Zelya and his friends

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You really are a Russian troll/bot, aren’t you?

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