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Reply #195 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:24pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:22pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knPnqLU_J4&t=242s

That's all very nice, Setanta. It's even possible. After all, few second generation immigrants go on to become politicians without a background of high socio-economic status/class.

But it is hardly evidence of any fraud on Ilhan's part, now is it? The old boy says Ilhan should be deported for being a Muslim.

Are you suggesting she should be deported for her father's visa application?

I'm hardly an expert on US immigration law, but I hazard that this has never ever happened. Given they received their asylum in 1996, when Ilhan would have been 14, and they waited in a refugee camp for four years while their application was processed, Ilhan would have been well under the age for applying for her own refugee visa.

This is just prima facie evidence. We're not even raising mitigating factors, doli incapax or Gillick competency. Between the ages of 10 and 14, it would have been legally impossible for Ilhan to apply for a family's asylum without a parent or legal guardian at least authorizing it.

And I seriously doubt a Somali colonel would have trusted an underage daughter with such a task - particularly a Muselman.

Look, given the impossibility of proving such a farcical claim, would you like to address the question put to you earlier?

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

I'm sure he's up for any questions you might have on that.

Are you for the law to be followed? A simple yes or no will suffice.
No need to be squeamish here, we're all friends, no?
Should we wait and see how it pans out?

I suggest you listen to all the video has to say. If her father used a false name to enter the US or wrongfully claimed to be a teacher and civilian educator to sidestep the "persecutor bar" should she be shown the door?

Now there's a question! What say you?

We've already expressed our views on this one, Setanta, but we'll need a clarification if that's okay.

Are you suggesting Ilhan's dad be prosecuted posthumously?

Once you've clarified that, we'll need an answer to our question:

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

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Re: Ilhan Omar’s home raided by trump goons
Reply #196 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:30pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:22pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knPnqLU_J4&t=242s

That's all very nice, Setanta. It's even possible. After all, few second generation immigrants go on to become politicians without a background of high socio-economic status/class.

But it is hardly evidence of any fraud on Ilhan's part, now is it? The old boy says Ilhan should be deported for being a Muslim.

Are you suggesting she should be deported for her father's visa application?

I'm hardly an expert on US immigration law, but I hazard that this has never ever happened. Given they received their asylum in 1996, when Ilhan would have been 14, and they waited in a refugee camp for four years while their application was processed, Ilhan would have been well under the age for applying for her own refugee visa.

This is just prima facie evidence. We're not even raising mitigating factors, doli incapax or Gillick competency. Between the ages of 10 and 14, it would have been legally impossible for Ilhan to apply for a family's asylum without a parent or legal guardian at least authorizing it.

And I seriously doubt a Somali colonel would have trusted an underage daughter with such a task - particularly a Muselman.

Look, given the impossibility of proving such a farcical claim, would you like to address the question put to you earlier?

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

I'm sure he's up for any questions you might have on that.

Are you for the law to be followed? A simple yes or no will suffice.
No need to be squeamish here, we're all friends, no?
Should we wait and see how it pans out?

I suggest you listen to all the video has to say. If her father used a false name to enter the US or wrongfully claimed to be a teacher and civilian educator to sidestep the "persecutor bar" should she be shown the door?

Now there's a question! What say you?

We've already expressed our views on this one, Setanta, but we'll need a clarification if that's okay.

Are you suggesting Ilhan's dad be prosecuted posthumously?

Once you've clarified that, we'll need an answer to our question.

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Cheers.

If she obtained a green card and citizenship on the basis of her father's fraudulent claims then she is not eligible for either. It's not complicated even for pakis.

Which bit are you struggling with, poof?

Which?

Oh, only the bit where subsequent generations of citizens can be deported for the sins of their fathers, dear boy.

To prosecute a crime or civil tort, prosecutors must first show probable cause of a crime or civil wrong being done by the alleged defendent.

That's pretty much a legal basic. Actus Reus and Mens Rea are foundational legal principles.

Rule of law, innit.

As we have shown, given Ilhan's age at the time of her father's visa application, this would be impossible to argue. He had evidence of naturalisation, she submitted this to obtain a passport. Ilhan never applied for a green card or naturalisation.

Which part of this are you struggling with?

The lack of Ilhan's Muslim deportation status?

I'm sorry, old boy, DL wasn't able to get this one through. The courts rejected similar legal arguments in his very first term.

I'm surprised you don't remember this. We discussed it ad nauseum.

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Re: Ilhan Omar’s home raided by trump goons
Reply #199 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:49pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:10pm:

Of course we've watched your video, Setanta. Can you imagine us posting without it?

Not once does Jillian Michaels cite a precedent for deporting a US citizen for the visa application of their parent.

To become a US citizen, asylum seekers just have to apply once their asylum case is granted and they reside legally in the US - a far quicker process than other visa holders.

For citizenship to be revoked, prosecutors would have to prove Ilhan lied on her passport application. This has a far higher threshold as these just ask for your age, parent's citizenship status, a declaration and a signature.

No grounds for fraud there. The persecutor bar applied to Ilhan's deceased father's asylum application.

We've already acknowledged the possibility of that, but you still haven't answered our question:

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Last time.

If her father's was invalid, hers is invalid as it was tied to his. Simple.

Rule of law, init.

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Reply #200 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:15pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:22pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knPnqLU_J4&t=242s

That's all very nice, Setanta. It's even possible. After all, few second generation immigrants go on to become politicians without a background of high socio-economic status/class.

But it is hardly evidence of any fraud on Ilhan's part, now is it? The old boy says Ilhan should be deported for being a Muslim.

Are you suggesting she should be deported for her father's visa application?

I'm hardly an expert on US immigration law, but I hazard that this has never ever happened. Given they received their asylum in 1996, when Ilhan would have been 14, and they waited in a refugee camp for four years while their application was processed, Ilhan would have been well under the age for applying for her own refugee visa.

This is just prima facie evidence. We're not even raising mitigating factors, doli incapax or Gillick competency. Between the ages of 10 and 14, it would have been legally impossible for Ilhan to apply for a family's asylum without a parent or legal guardian at least authorizing it.

And I seriously doubt a Somali colonel would have trusted an underage daughter with such a task - particularly a Muselman.

Look, given the impossibility of proving such a farcical claim, would you like to address the question put to you earlier?

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

I'm sure he's up for any questions you might have on that.

Are you for the law to be followed? A simple yes or no will suffice.
No need to be squeamish here, we're all friends, no?
Should we wait and see how it pans out?

I suggest you listen to all the video has to say. If her father used a false name to enter the US or wrongfully claimed to be a teacher and civilian educator to sidestep the "persecutor bar" should she be shown the door?

Now there's a question! What say you?

We've already expressed our views on this one, Setanta, but we'll need a clarification if that's okay.

Are you suggesting Ilhan's dad be prosecuted posthumously?

Once you've clarified that, we'll need an answer to our question.

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Cheers.

If she obtained a green card and citizenship on the basis of her father's fraudulent claims then she is not eligible for either. It's not complicated even for pakis.

Which bit are you struggling with, poof?

Which?

Oh, only the bit where subsequent generations of citizens can be deported for the sins of their fathers, dear boy.

She is not 'subsequent generation', poof.
She is Somali born, Kenyan Learing.
Her dad lied. She lied. You lie.

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Reply #202 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:31pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:30pm:

As we have shown, given Ilhan's age at the time of her father's visa application, this would be impossible to argue. He had evidence of naturalisation, she submitted this to obtain a passport. Ilhan never applied for a green card or naturalisation.

Which part of this are you struggling with?

Who is 'we', poof?

You have shown nothing other than your complete lack of comprehension of what is at issue.
But then you ARE a geriatric poof agitator from the Sydney Plush days ( Cheesy

) so your inane idiocy and lack of coherence and recall is to be expected.

Go on, say something stupid like you or yes master or some moronic declamation in all capitals, paki poof.

Paki poof. The alliteration works. You are made eternal in poetry, paki poof.

Rejoice.

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Re: Ilhan Omar’s home raided by trump goons
Reply #203 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:41pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:49pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:10pm:

Of course we've watched your video, Setanta. Can you imagine us posting without it?

Not once does Jillian Michaels cite a precedent for deporting a US citizen for the visa application of their parent.

To become a US citizen, asylum seekers just have to apply once their asylum case is granted and they reside legally in the US - a far quicker process than other visa holders.

For citizenship to be revoked, prosecutors would have to prove Ilhan lied on her passport application. This has a far higher threshold as these just ask for your age, parent's citizenship status, a declaration and a signature.

No grounds for fraud there. The persecutor bar applied to Ilhan's deceased father's asylum application.

We've already acknowledged the possibility of that, but you still haven't answered our question:

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Last time.

If her father's was invalid, hers is invalid as it was tied to his. Simple.

Rule of law, init.

You've failed the basic test of all law, Setanta, but that's not the issue here.

You've declined to answer the question three times.

So I'm curious. If a poster was so evasive about a really easy question, what would you conclude?

For a bit of fun, we'll do this as a multiple choice.

a) It was a little bit hard. Maybe they needed more question marks.

b) Three times isn't enough. You need to ask at least ten times, maybe more.

c) You forgot to ask what sound a jellyfish makes. That usually works.

d) It might have touched a nerve.

e) The question addressed the delicate topic of the Muselman. It should have provided an either/or option for the tinted races.

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Re: Ilhan Omar’s home raided by trump goons
Reply #204 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:44pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:41pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:49pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:10pm:

Of course we've watched your video, Setanta. Can you imagine us posting without it?

Not once does Jillian Michaels cite a precedent for deporting a US citizen for the visa application of their parent.

To become a US citizen, asylum seekers just have to apply once their asylum case is granted and they reside legally in the US - a far quicker process than other visa holders.

For citizenship to be revoked, prosecutors would have to prove Ilhan lied on her passport application. This has a far higher threshold as these just ask for your age, parent's citizenship status, a declaration and a signature.

No grounds for fraud there. The persecutor bar applied to Ilhan's deceased father's asylum application.

We've already acknowledged the possibility of that, but you still haven't answered our question:

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Last time.

If her father's was invalid, hers is invalid as it was tied to his. Simple.

Rule of law, init.

You've failed the basic test of all law, Setanta, but that's not the issue here.

You've declined to answer the question three times.

So I'm curious. If a poster was so evasive about a really easy question, what would you conclude?

For a bit of fun, we'll do this as a multiple choice.

a) It was a little bit hard. Maybe they needed more question marks.

b) Three times isn't enough. You need to ask at least ten times, maybe more.

c) You forgot to ask what sound a jellyfish makes. That usually works.

d) It might have touched a nerve.

e) The question addressed the delicate topic of the Muselman. It should have provided an either/or option for the tinted races.

That's enough incomprehending idiocy from you, poofy goon.

Revise, resubmit.

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Re: Ilhan Omar’s home raided by trump goons
Reply #205 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:47pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:15pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:22pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knPnqLU_J4&t=242s

That's all very nice, Setanta. It's even possible. After all, few second generation immigrants go on to become politicians without a background of high socio-economic status/class.

But it is hardly evidence of any fraud on Ilhan's part, now is it? The old boy says Ilhan should be deported for being a Muslim.

Are you suggesting she should be deported for her father's visa application?

I'm hardly an expert on US immigration law, but I hazard that this has never ever happened. Given they received their asylum in 1996, when Ilhan would have been 14, and they waited in a refugee camp for four years while their application was processed, Ilhan would have been well under the age for applying for her own refugee visa.

This is just prima facie evidence. We're not even raising mitigating factors, doli incapax or Gillick competency. Between the ages of 10 and 14, it would have been legally impossible for Ilhan to apply for a family's asylum without a parent or legal guardian at least authorizing it.

And I seriously doubt a Somali colonel would have trusted an underage daughter with such a task - particularly a Muselman.

Look, given the impossibility of proving such a farcical claim, would you like to address the question put to you earlier?

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

I'm sure he's up for any questions you might have on that.

Are you for the law to be followed? A simple yes or no will suffice.
No need to be squeamish here, we're all friends, no?
Should we wait and see how it pans out?

I suggest you listen to all the video has to say. If her father used a false name to enter the US or wrongfully claimed to be a teacher and civilian educator to sidestep the "persecutor bar" should she be shown the door?

Now there's a question! What say you?

We've already expressed our views on this one, Setanta, but we'll need a clarification if that's okay.

Are you suggesting Ilhan's dad be prosecuted posthumously?

Once you've clarified that, we'll need an answer to our question.

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Cheers.

If she obtained a green card and citizenship on the basis of her father's fraudulent claims then she is not eligible for either. It's not complicated even for pakis.

Which bit are you struggling with, poof?

Which?

Oh, only the bit where subsequent generations of citizens can be deported for the sins of their fathers, dear boy.

She is not 'subsequent generation', poof.
She is Somali born, Kenyan Learing.
Her dad lied. She lied. You lie.

Sorry, apart from your 9 out of 10 Somalis claim, where's your evidence of Ilhan's lie?

You claimed we lied when we posted your own statement.

Are you asking us not to believe our lying eyes?

Or to make our own eyes lie?

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Reply #206 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 8:05pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:47pm:

Sorry, apart from your 9 out of 10 Somalis claim, where's your evidence of Ilhan's lie?

You claimed we lied when we posted your own statement.

Are you asking us not to believe our lying eyes?

Or to make our own eyes lie?

Who's 'we', geriatric poof?

There is no 'we', poof. There is only YOU, as you like to say.

you neved posted my own statement to support you idiotic lies, gerriatric ottoman.

Call nurse, get thaf Pole stuck up yer to stop the seeping and call it a night, old idiotic homosexual loon.

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Reply #207 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 8:13pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 7:15pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 6:30pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:48pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 5:27pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:55pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 4:22pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knPnqLU_J4&t=242s

That's all very nice, Setanta. It's even possible. After all, few second generation immigrants go on to become politicians without a background of high socio-economic status/class.

But it is hardly evidence of any fraud on Ilhan's part, now is it? The old boy says Ilhan should be deported for being a Muslim.

Are you suggesting she should be deported for her father's visa application?

I'm hardly an expert on US immigration law, but I hazard that this has never ever happened. Given they received their asylum in 1996, when Ilhan would have been 14, and they waited in a refugee camp for four years while their application was processed, Ilhan would have been well under the age for applying for her own refugee visa.

This is just prima facie evidence. We're not even raising mitigating factors, doli incapax or Gillick competency. Between the ages of 10 and 14, it would have been legally impossible for Ilhan to apply for a family's asylum without a parent or legal guardian at least authorizing it.

And I seriously doubt a Somali colonel would have trusted an underage daughter with such a task - particularly a Muselman.

Look, given the impossibility of proving such a farcical claim, would you like to address the question put to you earlier?

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

I'm sure he's up for any questions you might have on that.

Are you for the law to be followed? A simple yes or no will suffice.
No need to be squeamish here, we're all friends, no?
Should we wait and see how it pans out?

I suggest you listen to all the video has to say. If her father used a false name to enter the US or wrongfully claimed to be a teacher and civilian educator to sidestep the "persecutor bar" should she be shown the door?

Now there's a question! What say you?

We've already expressed our views on this one, Setanta, but we'll need a clarification if that's okay.

Are you suggesting Ilhan's dad be prosecuted posthumously?

Once you've clarified that, we'll need an answer to our question.

Do you share the old boy's view on the forced deportation of US-born Muslims?

Cheers.

If she obtained a green card and citizenship on the basis of her father's fraudulent claims then she is not eligible for either. It's not complicated even for pakis.

Which bit are you struggling with, poof?

Which?

Oh, only the bit where subsequent generations of citizens can be deported for the sins of their fathers, dear boy.

She is not 'subsequent generation', poof.
She is Somali born, Kenyan Learing.
Her dad lied. She lied. You lie.

Setanta and I were discussing criminal responsibility, old boy, but why would you raise such a thing? It goes against every legal principle you espouse.

You've already shared that when you are a Muslim, it doesn't matted where you were born.

Superior culture, innit.

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 17743 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Ilhan Omar’s home raided by trump goons Reply #208 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 8:20pm Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 8:13pm: You've already shared that when you are a Muslim, it doesn't matted where you were born. Careful, Mothra will come give you a spelling lesson if you keep that up.
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Reply #209 - Oct 19^th, 2026 at 8:27pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19^th, 2026 at 8:13pm:

Setanta and I were discussing ...

Were you, poof?? You waz discussin', waz you?? Cheesy

No.
You misrepresented absolutely everything Setanta posted. As you always do. You showed no sign of comprehending anything anyone else has said, let alone addressing any of the points. You just keep repeating your ignorant poofy nonsense unrelated to any of the points Set or anyone brings up.

Gweggy creep, snivelling Simp, mother metho and nutso love you. They are your people. Pwogwess.

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