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The Myth Of The ‘Lazy’ Father
Oct 10th, 2026 at 5:44pm
 
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Combining housework, child care, and paid work, dads put in just as much time as moms do—in fact, a little more. The Pew Research Center found this in the 2011 American Time Use Survey (though a gap of just 54 vs. 53 hours per week) and again in the 2016 round (61 vs. 57), and a joint panel of the Brookings Institution and the American Enterprise Institute confirmed the results using the 2015 data. Combining the 2013 to 2017 ATUS,1 and limiting the data to respondents married and living with their spouses to ensure the moms and dads represent similar households, I find a gap of about 40 minutes per day, or four and a half hours per week: about 59 for men and 55 for women.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father
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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2026 at 6:46pm
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 5:44pm:
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Combining housework, child care, and paid work, dads put in just as much time as moms do—in fact, a little more. The Pew Research Center found this in the 2011 American Time Use Survey (though a gap of just 54 vs. 53 hours per week) and again in the 2016 round (61 vs. 57), and a joint panel of the Brookings Institution and the American Enterprise Institute confirmed the results using the 2015 data. Combining the 2013 to 2017 ATUS,1 and limiting the data to respondents married and living with their spouses to ensure the moms and dads represent similar households, I find a gap of about 40 minutes per day, or four and a half hours per week: about 59 for men and 55 for women.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father



That's toxic, that is. How very dare you?!
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2026 at 7:53pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 6:46pm:
Setanta wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 5:44pm:
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Combining housework, child care, and paid work, dads put in just as much time as moms do—in fact, a little more. The Pew Research Center found this in the 2011 American Time Use Survey (though a gap of just 54 vs. 53 hours per week) and again in the 2016 round (61 vs. 57), and a joint panel of the Brookings Institution and the American Enterprise Institute confirmed the results using the 2015 data. Combining the 2013 to 2017 ATUS,1 and limiting the data to respondents married and living with their spouses to ensure the moms and dads represent similar households, I find a gap of about 40 minutes per day, or four and a half hours per week: about 59 for men and 55 for women.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father



That's toxic, that is. How very dare you?!
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Aren't men amazing?! All that and no complaining women are not pulling their weight, no whinging or whining. Grin
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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2026 at 9:15pm
 
The ‘Lazy’ Father

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Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:00am
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 5:44pm:
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Combining housework, child care, and paid work, dads put in just as much time as moms do—in fact, a little more. The Pew Research Center found this in the 2011 American Time Use Survey (though a gap of just 54 vs. 53 hours per week) and again in the 2016 round (61 vs. 57), and a joint panel of the Brookings Institution and the American Enterprise Institute confirmed the results using the 2015 data. Combining the 2013 to 2017 ATUS,1 and limiting the data to respondents married and living with their spouses to ensure the moms and dads represent similar households, I find a gap of about 40 minutes per day, or four and a half hours per week: about 59 for men and 55 for women.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-of-the-lazy-father



From your link:

Still, the broad patterns hold. Dads, in general, work a little more, though the 40-minute gap is cut by more than half; both-working and both-full-time households split their total time about evenly; non-working dads with full-time spouses drastically underperform non-working moms in the same situation, though neither work as much as do full-time working parents with non-working spouses.



So, pretty much what we4 already knew ... but nice shot at a spin.
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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:01am
 
Let's ask AI:


Women do significantly more unpaid work than men.

• Daily and Weekly Averages: In Australia, women average about 4 hours and 53 minutes of unpaid work daily, compared to 3 hours and 52 minutes for men. On a weekly basis, women perform roughly 22 to 32 hours of unpaid domestic work and care, which is about 7 to 9 hours more than men.

• Impact of Children: The gap widens dramatically when children are present. Mothers with children under 18 often perform over 30 to 35 hours of unpaid domestic and care work per week, compared to roughly 16 hours for fathers.

• Employment Status: Even when women work full-time jobs, they continue to spend more hours on household chores and caregiving than their male counterparts.

• Global and Local Data: According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics and reports from the Workplace Gender Equality Agency, this "gender time gap" persists across all demographics, age brackets, and employment levels.
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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:02am
 
Oh, and 70 -72% of primary carers are women.
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:04am
 
What does the ABS say?:

Females do more unpaid work, males do more paid work



People in Australia spent an average of three and a half hours a day on unpaid work activities during 2020-2021, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) Time Use Survey published today.

Unpaid work includes domestic duties like housework, food and drink preparation and shopping, as well as child care, adult care and volunteering activities.

Lisa Scanlon, Director of Social Surveys and Statistics said: “the publication provides a snapshot of how people balance their time between work, leisure, caring and other activities.

“On average, females spent 4 hours and 31 minutes a day doing unpaid work activities. Males spent over an hour less on these activities, averaging 3 hours and 12 minutes a day. Less than half of males (42 per cent) spent time on housework, compared to 70 per cent of females.

“Mothers spent an average of 3 hours and 34 minutes participating in child care activities a day, while fathers spent 2 hours and 19 minutes”.

Of those who spent time doing employment related activities, males spent 8 hours and 13 minutes in a day on these activities, compared to females who spent 7 hours and 12 minutes.

The survey also provides insight into the activities that people do in their free time. On average, people spent 5 hours and 27 minutes a day on free time activities that included social interaction, recreation and leisure activities.

Three quarters of people reported watching television and video, for an average of 2 hours and 55 minutes a day. Thirty per cent of respondents spent time doing exercise, sport and outdoor activities for an average of 1 hour and 29 minutes a day.

The survey asked how often participants felt rushed or pressed for time. Females aged 35 to 44 years were most likely to report always or often feeling rushed for time (55 per cent).

The ABS would like to thank the participants who contributed to these survey results.


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Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:06am
 
AI again:



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Women do the vast majority of the mental planning and cognitive labor in households.


Sociological research and data on household management show clear patterns regarding who carries this invisible workload:

What the Research Shows

• Unequal Distribution: Studies on cognitive labor (such as research from Harvard sociologist Allison Daminger) find that women take on roughly 70% to 73% of the total household mental load.

• The Four Stages of Mental Labor: Mental planning is generally broken down into four stages: anticipating needs, identifying options, deciding among options, and monitoring results.

• Where the Gap Lies: While couples tend to make final decisions more evenly together, women do the vast majority of the anticipating (spotting what needs to be done before it becomes an issue) and the monitoring (tracking whether it got done properly).

• Types of Tasks: Women typically manage daily meal planning, school and extracurricular logistics, remembering healthcare appointments, buying children's clothes, and keeping track of family social calendars.

Why This Happens

• Default Parenting: Societal norms and longer initial time spent away from work (such as maternity leave) often establish mothers as the "default parent" early on.

• Project Management Dynamic: In many dual-parent households, men often participate when asked or informed, but women act as the ongoing "project manager" who holds the master list in their head.

• Men's Mental Load: Men often experience a distinct mental load centered heavily around financial provision, physical/emotional protection, and physical labor (like home repairs and yard maintenance), though it is generally structured differently than day-to-day household and family cognitive labor.
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Reply #9 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:11am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:06am:
AI again:



AI Overview

Women do the vast majority of the mental planning and cognitive labor in households.



Cheesy

Women think more about curtains and cushions.

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Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:29am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:11am:
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:06am:
AI again:



AI Overview

Women do the vast majority of the mental planning and cognitive labor in households.



Cheesy

Women think more about curtains and cushions.




Sorry to hear you weren't able to attract a mate of more worth, fruitbat. Still, it explains a lot.

Meanwhile, women are running households all over the country.
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Reply #11 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:32am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:29am:
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:11am:
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:06am:
AI again:



AI Overview

Women do the vast majority of the mental planning and cognitive labor in households.



Cheesy

Women think more about curtains and cushions.




Sorry to hear you weren't able to attract a mate of more worth, fruitbat. Still, it explains a lot.

Meanwhile, women are running households all over the country.

The housewife as hero.
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Reply #12 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:44am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:32am:
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:29am:
Frank wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:11am:
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:06am:
AI again:



AI Overview

Women do the vast majority of the mental planning and cognitive labor in households.



Cheesy

Women think more about curtains and cushions.




Sorry to hear you weren't able to attract a mate of more worth, fruitbat. Still, it explains a lot.

Meanwhile, women are running households all over the country.

The housewife as hero.



Who said anything about deifying anyone? You were more than happy to clap along with Setanta that men did more, now i've proved you both wrong, you're undervaluing what you took credit for?

You couldn't be more pathetic.

Does your wife know you think so little of her?
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Reply #13 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 10:34am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2026 at 8:00am:
nice shot at a spin.


It's you that is spinning it, dopey. You are picking one minority out of the whole and running with it. It was about total hours worked, at home and work.
"Combining the 2013 to 2017 ATUS,1 and limiting the data to respondents married and living with their spouses to ensure the moms and dads represent similar households, I find a gap of about 40 minutes per day, or four and a half hours per week: about 59 for men and 55 for women."
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Reply #14 - Oct 11th, 2026 at 10:57am
 
"I'm so exhausted from dealing with the kids and keeping the house clean all week," she confided to her husband, Mark. "I'm really looking forward to getting up early on Saturday and packing for a morning mountain hike, but we have to make sure we're home by lunchtime before we go visit the pumpkin patch on our way to the family photo shoot I scheduled. Then, tonight, I need to rearrange all the furniture in the living room. Just think of how much fun it'll be."

According to friends and family, Patricia could hardly wait for Saturday to arrive and overwhelm herself with rewarding family fun that would build lasting memories while depriving the family of any opportunity to relax.

"If I don't plan fun activities no one asked me to then my kids won't grow up with memories of how stressed I am and I simply can't have that," Patricia said. "I just wish there were certain designated days people set aside to rest and recharge after a long, busy week."

At publishing time, Mark McMullins had found himself in the proverbial dog house after suggesting that the family should just relax and watch some TV.
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