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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #30 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 3:15pm
 
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 10:26pm:
Oh look - he's gone.



Poor petal. I did not know you hung on my every word and that I should stay online until you responded. Cool
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Reply #31 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 3:23pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 3:15pm:
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 10:26pm:
Oh look - he's gone.



Poor petal. I did not know you hung on my every word and that I should stay online until you responded. Cool


So, it was real?
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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #32 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 3:11pm:
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 11:35pm:
Now you have all the information, we'd like to hear your views on politicians taking public funds to pay for their political advertising.


So the Democrats are the one complaining, suing and you think that makes it a fait accompli?



from AI: Federal agencies can use public funds for legitimate official communications or public-service announcements, but partisan or self-promotional ads may violate restrictions on using appropriated funds for “publicity or propaganda.” Whether a specific ad crosses that line depends on its content and circumstances.

So the Democrats are saying he is wrong, that does not of itself show anything. Wait for the Court case outcome, if it proceeds. Roll Eyes


No, dear, I'm saying the ads said funded and authorised by the US government.

I'm saying JD Vance acknowledged the issue and promised to pay the money back.

And I'm saying exactly what your unsourced AI search says above: partisan or self-promotional ads may violate restrictions on using appropriated funds for “publicity or propaganda.”

So, given the confession and your knowledge of the law, why would you need a court outcome to express your view?

We'll simplify the question for you, Lee.

Is this action right or wrong?
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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #33 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 5:25pm
 
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Is this action right or wrong?



you seem to have cognitive issues.

You even posted it yourself.

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
partisan or self-promotional ads may violate restrictions


"May" is not definitive. Cool
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Re: another useless thread about Trump
Reply #34 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:03pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 11:40am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 11:36am:
Your link doesn't work and you didn't need to start a whole new thread
because you watched something on Facebook -
you obsessive, brain dead, idiot.


Why does a video posted on Facebook carry less weight than the same video being posted on YouTube or CNN? Is the content somehow different? Is the message changed? You’re the idiot, not me.



The tendentious editing, nutso.  Even more malicious and tendentious than CNN.


Anyway.

Trump has been a necessary corrective to the insanity of pwoggy loons.  As is Hanson, Le Pen, AfD, Geert Wilders and all the rest.

You silly buggers come up with ever more outlandish bollocks, like blokes are real women, Hamas are freedom fighters, China is cuddly, Pakis are just like Scandis and all the rest of your 'pwogwessive' derangements.

The corrective was, is necessary.  Bitter?  Medicine usually is, nutso.




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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #35 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:10pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 5:25pm:
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
Is this action right or wrong?



you seem to have cognitive issues.

You even posted it yourself.

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 4:06pm:
partisan or self-promotional ads may violate restrictions


"May" is not definitive. Cool


We're not asking you for a legal reference, Lee, you've been asked for your moral opinion: is using taxpayer money to pay for political campaign ads right or wrong?

You're perfectly free to justify it as a good thing to do, we'd just like to hear your view on this.

Is this kind of action good or bad?

We'll await your sincere reply.
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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #36 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:03pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 11:40am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 8th, 2026 at 11:36am:
Your link doesn't work and you didn't need to start a whole new thread
because you watched something on Facebook -
you obsessive, brain dead, idiot.


Why does a video posted on Facebook carry less weight than the same video being posted on YouTube or CNN? Is the content somehow different? Is the message changed? You’re the idiot, not me.



The tendentious editing, nutso.  Even more malicious and tendentious than CNN.


Anyway.

Trump has been a necessary corrective to the insanity of pwoggy loons.  As is Hanson, Le Pen, AfD, Geert Wilders and all the rest.

You silly buggers come up with ever more outlandish bollocks, like blokes are real women, Hamas are freedom fighters, China is cuddly, Pakis are just like Scandis and all the rest of your 'pwogwessive' derangements.

The corrective was, is necessary.  Bitter?  Medicine usually is, nutso.


The social body is in desperate need of purging, is it?

Cleansing, as DL said, the blood of America.

I must say, we've never heard of Pauline having any medical uses, but that's okay. We know what you mean.

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer, nein?

Now, if only you could convince your foreign compatriots to accept such a view without the use of lies and force.

At some point, dear chap, we'd love to see you try.

Feel it.
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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #37 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:57pm
 
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
We're not asking you for a legal reference, Lee, you've been asked for your moral opinion: is using taxpayer money to pay for political campaign ads right or wrong?



The question is not about "moral" the headline specifically says "illegal". Cool
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Reply #38 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:52pm
 
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Trumps campaign ads are illegal


Most of what Trump does is illegal - Doesn't seem to matter much.

They even cancelled criminal charges against him, not because he wasn't a criminal but because he was President.

Mokes no sense at all, why would they want to cover up for a criminal in the presidency ? I guess it makes sense for the leader of an idiocracy.
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Reply #39 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:56pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:57pm:
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
We're not asking you for a legal reference, Lee, you've been asked for your moral opinion: is using taxpayer money to pay for political campaign ads right or wrong?



The question is not about "moral" the headline specifically says "illegal". Cool


Yes, and I'm asking you a moral question. Do you think this behaviour is wrong?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #40 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:57pm:
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 8:10pm:
We're not asking you for a legal reference, Lee, you've been asked for your moral opinion: is using taxpayer money to pay for political campaign ads right or wrong?



The question is not about "moral" the headline specifically says "illegal". Cool


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The Democratic National Committee filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia arguing that shifting $20 million in federal funds through the Office of Management and Budget and U.S. Customs and Border Protection to run the ads is
unlawful
under the Administrative Procedure Act.


Yes it seems that this probably is and should be illegal.

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The question is not about "moral"

It is a good position for you to take staying away from questions of morality. I doubt that he has much of a defence in that region on many topics.
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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #41 - Oct 9th, 2026 at 10:04pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:52pm:
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Trumps campaign ads are illegal


Most of what Trump does is illegal - Doesn't seem to matter much.

They even cancelled criminal charges against him, not because he wasn't a criminal but because he was President.

Mokes no sense at all, why would they want to cover up for a criminal in the presidency ? I guess it makes sense for the leader of an idiocracy.


Ah yes, and even his 34 felony convictions would have resulted in jail time if he didn't become prez.

Lee, however, has expressed no moral qualms with falsifying business records in an attempt to influence the outcome of an election.

Lee's now being asked if he takes any issue with using millions in taxpayer money to fund political campaign ads.

If the Kenyan or the Autopen did it, I'm sure Lee would have no hesitation, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt until he addresses the question.

There may be ethical implications we haven't yet considered.
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Reply #42 - Oct 10th, 2026 at 4:04am
 
Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 10:04pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:52pm:
Quote:
Trumps campaign ads are illegal


Most of what Trump does is illegal - Doesn't seem to matter much.

They even cancelled criminal charges against him, not because he wasn't a criminal but because he was President.

Mokes no sense at all, why would they want to cover up for a criminal in the presidency ? I guess it makes sense for the leader of an idiocracy.


Ah yes, and even his 34 felony convictions would have resulted in jail time if he didn't become prez.

Lee, however, has expressed no moral qualms with falsifying business records in an attempt to influence the outcome of an election.

Lee's now being asked if he takes any issue with using millions in taxpayer money to fund political campaign ads.

If the Kenyan or the Autopen did it, I'm sure Lee would have no hesitation, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt until he addresses the question.

There may be ethical implications we haven't yet considered.


he's a criminal
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Reply #43 - Oct 10th, 2026 at 12:27pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm:
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The Democratic National Committee filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia arguing that shifting $20 million in federal funds through the Office of Management and Budget and U.S. Customs and Border Protection to run the ads is unlawful
under the Administrative Procedure Act.


Yes. That is why they are suing. Tell me when it reaches their friendly left-wing court. Claiming something is not the same as being something. Roll Eyes

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm:
Yes it seems that this probably is and should be illegal.


Oh now you are a lawyer? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm:
It is a good position for you to take staying away from questions of morality.



You were the one commenting on legality, why the switch? Wink
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Re: Trumps campaign ads are illegal
Reply #44 - Oct 10th, 2026 at 12:50pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 10th, 2026 at 12:27pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm:
Quote:
The Democratic National Committee filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia arguing that shifting $20 million in federal funds through the Office of Management and Budget and U.S. Customs and Border Protection to run the ads is unlawful
under the Administrative Procedure Act.


Yes. That is why they are suing. Tell me when it reaches their friendly left-wing court. Claiming something is not the same as being something. Roll Eyes

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm:
Yes it seems that this probably is and should be illegal.


Oh now you are a lawyer? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Dnarever wrote on Oct 9th, 2026 at 9:58pm:
It is a good position for you to take staying away from questions of morality.



You were the one commenting on legality, why the switch? Wink


What he's doing is illegal for a number of reasons, and seriously, it's not even up for debate.

Anti-Propaganda Rider: For more than 75 years, a recurring appropriations rider has banned the use of federal funds for publicity or propaganda purposes within the United States, particularly to promote a candidate or glorify an individual official.

The Hatch Act: This law restricts government employees and executive officials from using public office or government resources for partisan political activities.

The Anti-Deficiency Act: It is a violation of federal law for executive officials to spend public money that has not been specifically appropriated by Congress for that purpose.

Power of the Purse: Only Congress, not the president, holds the constitutional authority to appropriate funds, meaning shifting operational agency budgets (such as from the Department of Homeland Security) to produce political promotional spots is illegal.

So clearly, it's as illegal as it gets, end of story. That's your Dear Leader in a nutshell, the ends justify the means and he doesn't care if he breaks the law because he thinks the Supreme Court gave him blanket immunity, which isn't true.
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