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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #30 - Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 7:00pm

Lame Duck Donald wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 6:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 5:38pm:

I hope the terrorist pilot who did it is hanged in public

and it is broadcast on live TV all around the world.

I guess thats before the alleged freely and publicly state what actually occurred.

These bloodthirsty fascists who oppose due process.

We know what happened -
he stabbed the pilot and tried to crash the plane.

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Lame Duck Donald Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1216 Gender:	Re: #KeepWarCriminalNetanyahuOutofGaol Reply #31 - Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 7:26pm If so certain, then you should also be calling for victim to be able to speak freely with a free media a.s.a.p.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 122301 Melbourne Gender:	Re: #KeepWarCriminalNetanyahuOutofGaol Reply #32 - Oct 4^th, 2026 at 6:44pm Lame Duck Donald wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 7:26pm: If so certain, then you should also be calling for victim to be able to speak freely with a free media a.s.a.p. I suppose we'll hear when he gets out of hospital - he was badly injured - who knows - he might even die.
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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #33 - Oct 4^th, 2026 at 10:22pm

Israel Hayom reports that following a brawl and bloodshed between pilots from Oman and the UAE, two off-duty pilots who were on board—one originally from Russia and the other from Ukraine—took the controls.

They managed to stabilize the aircraft and land it in Saudi Arabia.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/09/30/flydubai-terrorist-crash-flight-diverted-saudi-arabia-terror-plot/

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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #35 - Yesterday at 9:20am

Omani national Hamam al-Hammami, who used a cockpit crash axe to try to kill Captain Smit Machchhar, also told investigators in the United Arab Emirates he planned to carry out the attack in July but cancelled at the last minute, Israeli media reports.

Hammami said he intended to murder Captain Smit Machchhar behind the locked cockpit door then continue flying to Tel Aviv so he could receive landing clearances without raising suspicion. He would then crash the plane into one of the Azrieli towers, three blocks close to Israel’s Kirya military headquarters in Tel Aviv which are also the tallest buildings in Israel.

This was apparently why Hammami waited until the plane was over Jordan before he tried to take control. Ynet reports that if he couldn’t make it to Israel, he planned to crash the plane into a US military base in Jordan.

In the event, his plot was foiled by Captain Machchhar, who despite being badly injured managed to kick the cockpit door open, allowing passengers to storm in, immobilise the co-pilot and take back control of the plane before two off-duty pilots flew it safely to land in Saudi Arabia.

Captain Machchhar told Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, that Hammami had asked to pray minutes before he struck him with a “big blow” to the head.

At first, Captain Machchhar believed the plane been hit, but then, he said, “the blows kept coming. I realised that it’s not the aircraft, it’s the other guy who was in the cockpit with me.”

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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #37 - Yesterday at 3:13pm

Confusing stories coming out -
I wouldn't read too much into any of it as yet -

the first reports were saying that the terrorist pilot smuggled a knife on board -
later reports say no - he used the axe inside the cockpit -
that axe would kill even a lion with one blow so -
so there is no way the pilot could be alive after being
struck multiple times with that axe -
nothing is making sense.

Other reports say the airliner dived 17,000 feet in 2 minutes
and then pulled out of the dive -
a commercial airliner couldn't do that -
that is something only a military fighter jet could do.

Google AI:

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The Dive:
The aircraft plummeted at a peak rate near 34,000 feet per minute,
dropping from 34,000 feet down to roughly 16,600 feet.
The extreme dive cut power to the cabin, subjected passengers to intense negative G-forces,
and pushed the airframe beyond its structural speed limits, ripping off part of the plane's rudder.

And then the 2 spare pilots on board would have had to land and steer the plane with no rudder.
That is a hell of a job as you have to adjust the engine power on one wing
to steer - very difficult to land like that -
you'd have to be one of the best pilots on the world and very lucky.

My bet is that the jet's frame was so over stressed that it is
a write off that could never be flown again.

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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #38 - Yesterday at 9:37pm

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 3:13pm:

Confusing stories coming out -
I wouldn't read too much into any of it as yet -

the first reports were saying that the terrorist pilot smuggled a knife on board -
later reports say no - he used the axe inside the cockpit -
that axe would kill even a lion with one blow so -
so there is no way the pilot could be alive after being
struck multiple times with that axe -
nothing is making sense.

Other reports say the airliner dived 17,000 feet in 2 minutes
and then pulled out of the dive -
a commercial airliner couldn't do that -
that is something only a military fighter jet could do.

Google AI:

Quote:

The Dive:
The aircraft plummeted at a peak rate near 34,000 feet per minute,
dropping from 34,000 feet down to roughly 16,600 feet.
The extreme dive cut power to the cabin, subjected passengers to intense negative G-forces,
and pushed the airframe beyond its structural speed limits, ripping off part of the plane's rudder.

And then the 2 spare pilots on board would have had to land and steer the plane with no rudder.
That is a hell of a job as you have to adjust the engine power on one wing
to steer - very difficult to land like that -
you'd have to be one of the best pilots on the world and very lucky.

My bet is that the jet's frame was so over stressed that it is
a write off that could never be flown again.

Maybe you're confused because you took notice of fake news instead of waiting to hear what happened.

The info i had cast doubt on knife airport security is pretty tight.

Planes can dive fast the plane might not be rated for it doesn't mean it can't do it.
There is no reason for it to cut power to cabin and no reports mention this happening.
There is no evidence of negative Gs you can dive without that happening.
Google AI is wrong AI isn't perfect still has a way to go.

It reached 600 knots in dive about 100 knots faster than Vne (Velocity never exceed) might explain why rudder ripped off some pilots are saying lucky he didn't rip the tail off the plane.
Every plane has limitations on flight envelope if you exceed them it can damage plane.

They can fly it in without a rudder they have instrument called turn coordinator it has a trackball to let them know if they need rudder correction to straighten up from yaw angle.
They bank it to turn then use rudder to correct yaw angle which might be very small adjustment.
Some light planes and gliders don't have this instrument might have a piece of string in front of windscreen if it's flowing straight back down centreline of plane it doesn't need rudder correction, if it's flowing to right of centreline might need a little left rudder to straighten it up.
Look at black ball on bottom left pic that has to be centred

Some planes have differential braking which means left and right brakes are independent they use this to steer on the ground.

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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #39 - Yesterday at 9:53pm

Baron,
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They can fly it in without a rudder they have instrument called turn coordinator it has a trackball to let them know if they need rudder correction to straighten up from yaw angle.
They bank it to turn then use rudder to correct yaw angle which might be very small adjustment.

How can you say in one sentence - without a rudder -
and in the next sentence say - use rudder?

Have you been drinking?

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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #40 - Yesterday at 9:57pm

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 9:53pm:

Baron,
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They can fly it in without a rudder they have instrument called turn coordinator it has a trackball to let them know if they need rudder correction to straighten up from yaw angle.
They bank it to turn then use rudder to correct yaw angle which might be very small adjustment.

How can you say in one sentence - without a rudder -
and in the next sentence say - use rudder?

Have you been drinking?

They flew it in without a rudder textbook landing.

If they do steeper banked turns then a little rudder is required not so much for slower turns.

I have flown light aircraft have you?

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Re: Congrats to the passengers on flydubai
Reply #41 - Yesterday at 9:59pm

Baronvonrort wrote Yesterday at 9:57pm:

Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 9:53pm:

Baron,
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They can fly it in without a rudder they have instrument called turn coordinator it has a trackball to let them know if they need rudder correction to straighten up from yaw angle.
They bank it to turn then use rudder to correct yaw angle which might be very small adjustment.

How can you say in one sentence - without a rudder -
and in the next sentence say - use rudder?

Have you been drinking?

They flew it in without a rudder textbook landing.

If they do steeper banked turns then a little rudder is required not so much for slower turns.

I have flown light aircraft have you?

Yes - I have flown a Cessna -
it was easier than learning to drive a car with a manual clutch.

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