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Reply #30 - Yesterday at 8:49pm
 
Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 2:42pm:
Sophia wrote Yesterday at 11:36am:
Sounds like an explanation is needed as to why some or many females had to be or has to be radical for change to happen …. Yet we are still a long way from real equal acceptance.
What alerted me as what looks like steps going backwards are being taken, by certain groups of males, was when I was watching MAFS. This one dude and his all male members of family and friends was very reminiscent of some of these ideologies below. (Tyson Gordon ex military)


Radical groups run or dominated by men often intersect with violent extremism, male supremacy, and far-right ideologies.Types of Male-Dominated Radical GroupsMale Supremacist and Misogynistic Groups: These networks—including certain online subcultures and involuntary celibate (incel) communities—promote rigid gender roles, view women as inferior or hostile, and sometimes normalize or encourage violence against women.Far-Right and White Nationalist Movements: Organizations such as neo-Nazi cells, accelerationist groups (e.g., The Base), and white supremacist militias are overwhelmingly male. They often use ideas of aggrieved or lost masculinity to recruit members through a promise of restoring social hierarchy or status.Violent Extremist and Terrorist Networks: Many global and domestic militant organizations feature hierarchical leadership structures operated by men, utilizing appeals to camaraderie, duty, and hyper-masculinity to draw in vulnerable recruits.Common Recruitment and Radicalization TacticsOnline Grooming: Groups exploit digital spaces, gaming platforms, and social media feeds to target isolated or insecure young men.Exploiting Real Grievances: Organizers often hook individuals by acknowledging real challenges—such as mental health struggles, economic isolation, or loneliness—only to redirect those frustrations into blame, hate speech, and misogyny.Promoting Rigid Stereotypes: Recruitment relies heavily on enforcing narrow definitions of manhood that reject vulnerability and demand the exertion of power and control.



Such groups are a very small example of men in general, yet all men are demonised by the 'feminists' while at the same time they are silent on the Muslim religion, which has very similar tenets to those 'manosphere' groups above and is far more widespread.  Why no outrage here? Is it because the progressive feminist left has found itself so connected politically to Islam it is unable to criticise it?


Believe or not, but it was in my thoughts about that earlier….how their religion (the males)represses girls/women. How the girls go to school until 8 years old then taken out and married off and I have read how some of these young brides die as a result of penetration.
My son’s wife was in Arabia for 2 years, and was engaged to a Muslim only to find he had expectations of her to do as told and dress covered up with what their women all wear.
She told him to get out and that marriage never went through. Was there hope that some of those males were liberated in their thinking? No.

I’ve read some parts in books where Arabic Muslim women had escaped, to write and let the world understand their restricted and brutal living conditions.

But now, I’m concerned about what’s happening in our country that all of us can be aware of.
More women are dying from domestic violence and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down.
Why in this western country should that happen? Are they all Arabic males?

I said earlier, drugs, over use of prescription, and alcohol are decaying the fabric of safety for many.

In my experience, in earlier times, it seemed that any abuse within a household had to remain hush hush. It was shameful in anyone knew.

Nowadays, it’s all out in the open, it’s not something that just escalated out of nowhere, there was always abuse in hush terms.
A neighbourhood school friend passed away 9 years ago. She never forgave her mother for not sticking up for her when the uncle sexually abused her as a teen in the 1960s.
She ended up on drugs, had a car accident. Had breast cancer, had a child out of wedlock she reared alone. She was a bit of a mess. Her son is lovely, a gentle loving son he was.
I’m the only one that can see how the family won’t accept him as family as spite against his mother that fought for what was truth.
I often message her son with positivity about his mum and about him.
He knows he’s not alone.
I’m truly disgusted with the bad treatment he has had to endure.
Earlier this year his grandma died (his mum’s mum). He and his wife attended, but his name was not included in the memorial card with photos.
I looked and saw it, and my heart sunk for him.
Here we all are, in a church, yet not very Christian.

I don’t have anything against men or women, but sometimes I find myself muttering under my breath “I hate people!”  Grini
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Reply #31 - Yesterday at 8:50pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote Yesterday at 8:32pm:
It is alarming that almost no man here speaks out strongly against the sexist manosphere


Pea-brained influencers make for an easier target than Islamic misogyny.

So the cowardly, snivelling simps like you, and the screeching frightbats like Methra, are fapping about manosphere so as to be able to continue to ignore the huge camel in the room.




Louis Theroux: Inside the Manosphere, recently dropped on Netflix. In it, Theroux re-covers much of the well-trodden ground first paved by the BBC in The Dangerous Rise of Andrew Tate — except, in this case, Louis failed to secure an interview with the Manosphere’s top dog and had to settle for a cast of its more minor characters instead, such as the personal trainer turned masculinity guru, Harrison Sullivan, or Justin Waller, a man who seemed like a real estate agent charged up on viagra-laced oysters. To compensate, he brings his earnestly-concerned geography teacher schtick to the table while Netflix tries to repeat the success of its 2025 drama Adolescence.

For fans of Louis Theroux’s oeuvre — and, despite my unstrained cynicism, I actually am one — it will be a satisfying watch because even when he’s mediocre and unoriginal Louis is still good at what he does. But the viewers who hold a right-wing perspective may well note a glaring omission here: like the rest of his elite milieu, Louis, the consummate BBC insider, completely overinflates the threat posed by misogynistic influencers in rented sports cars at the expense of a much more tangible threat to women and Western civilisation more broadly — hardline Islam.

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Reply #32 - Yesterday at 9:02pm
 
Frank wrote Yesterday at 8:50pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote Yesterday at 8:32pm:
It is alarming that almost no man here speaks out strongly against the sexist manosphere


Pea-brained influencers make for an easier target than Islamic misogyny.

So the cowardly, snivelling simps like you, and the screeching frightbats like Methra, are fapping about manosphere so as to be able to continue to ignore the huge camel in the room.


Perhaps stupid lefty women like Islam because they hate the autonomy they have been granted by western civilisation?
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Reply #33 - Yesterday at 9:04pm
 
Sophia wrote Yesterday at 8:49pm:
Believe or not, but it was in my thoughts about that earlier….how their religion (the males)represses girls/women. How the girls go to school until 8 years old then taken out and married off and I have read how some of these young brides die as a result of penetration.
My son’s wife was in Arabia for 2 years, and was engaged to a Muslim only to find he had expectations of her to do as told and dress covered up with what their women all wear.
She told him to get out and that marriage never went through. Was there hope that some of those males were liberated in their thinking? No.

I’ve read some parts in books where Arabic Muslim women had escaped, to write and let the world understand their restricted and brutal living conditions.

But now, I’m concerned about what’s happening in our country that all of us can be aware of.
More women are dying from domestic violence and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down.
Why in this western country should that happen? Are they all Arabic males?

I said earlier, drugs, over use of prescription, and alcohol are decaying the fabric of safety for many.

In my experience, in earlier times, it seemed that any abuse within a household had to remain hush hush. It was shameful in anyone knew.

Nowadays, it’s all out in the open, it’s not something that just escalated out of nowhere, there was always abuse in hush terms.
A neighbourhood school friend passed away 9 years ago. She never forgave her mother for not sticking up for her when the uncle sexually abused her as a teen in the 1960s.
She ended up on drugs, had a car accident. Had breast cancer, had a child out of wedlock she reared alone. She was a bit of a mess. Her son is lovely, a gentle loving son he was.
I’m the only one that can see how the family won’t accept him as family as spite against his mother that fought for what was truth.
I often message her son with positivity about his mum and about him.
He knows he’s not alone.
I’m truly disgusted with the bad treatment he has had to endure.
Earlier this year his grandma died (his mum’s mum). He and his wife attended, but his name was not included in the memorial card with photos.
I looked and saw it, and my heart sunk for him.
Here we all are, in a church, yet not very Christian.

I don’t have anything against men or women, but sometimes I find myself muttering under my breath “I hate people!”  Grin



The highest rates of domestic violence are among same sex couples, with lesbian relationships being the highest.

The over use of prescription and illegal drugs as well as alcohol is certainly playing a part.  Your friends story is unfortunately a not uncommon one.

I increasingly feel the same!i
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Reply #34 - Yesterday at 9:08pm
 
Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 9:04pm:
The highest rates of domestic violence are among same sex couples, with lesbian relationships being the highest.


The highest rate of child abuse is by women. 68% to 48% if memory serves for the US, I believe NZ stats are similar. The discrepency in 16% is because both male/female were involved. If women have power of those not able to defend themselves, they are more likely to abuse. Feminists will try to downplay those stats by saying women spend more time with children, hardly an excuse.
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Reply #35 - Yesterday at 10:42pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote Yesterday at 8:32pm:
It is alarming that almost no man here speaks out strongly against the sexist manosphere


The same ones who fail in their duty to protest on behalf of men who murder their children etc.... weak bastards all... not up to the same heroic standards as women who fearlessly defend family annihilators of their sex; no emotional intelligence;  no empathy for the true victims of society....

Don't even bother to speak out about the frankly hilarious concept of some mythical 'manosphere' .... just laugh it off the same as they do with 'neo-Nazis' who the fearless trannies and supporters are opposing in the streets when those trannies and supporters march etc and nobody even bothers to turn up to oppose them... or even the fearless Mussos marching to protest their oppression by the Jews here etc...

Weak bastards these men who won't stand for the REAL victims..... yet they call for women who defend family annihilators to be sent to prison ....
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Reply #36 - Today at 12:17am
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Sep 21st, 2026 at 5:16pm:
A safe space for men.... well if poofs, weirdoes and sheilas all need a safe space - so do men... equality, innit?


Absolutely Mr. G. Men need a safe space too. I see Men’s Sheds are available for that.
The word has to go out for males (all ages/gens) that there are safe spaces available for them at anytime.

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Reply #37 - Today at 12:34am
 
Gnads wrote Yesterday at 7:49pm:
Sophia wrote Yesterday at 11:36am:
Belgarion wrote Yesterday at 10:37am:
mothra wrote Yesterday at 6:36am:
I thought that this might be an interesting discussion, alas, it is just a bunch of old guys whinging about women.

How about we start over with an AI definition of what the "manospherre" is:


The manosphere is an umbrella term for a collection of online communities, websites, and social media spaces that focus on men, masculinity, and gender relations, often promoting anti-feminist and misogynistic views

.According to organizations like the eSafety Commissioner, these digital spaces frequently push rigid, aggressive definitions of manhood and claim that gender equality harms men's rights.

Key Subgroups within the Manosphere

Incels (Involuntary Celibates): Communities of individuals who blame women and society for their lack of romantic or sexual success.

Men's Rights Activists (MRAs): Groups that argue societal systems and legal frameworks are biased against men.

Pick-Up Artists (PUAs): Networks focused on learning manipulative tactics and strategies to seduce women.

Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW): Communities advocating that men completely separate themselves from romantic relationships with women.

Common Concepts and Language

Alpha vs. Beta: Pseudoscientific hierarchies used to categorize men, where "alpha" implies dominant control and "beta" is used as an insult for emotional or submissive behavior.

Red Pill: A metaphor borrowed from The Matrix indicating an awakening to the supposed "truth" that society and the legal system favor women over men.

Impact and Reach

Many young men and boys initially encounter these networks while searching for positive self-improvement, fitness, or financial advice. However, algorithmic amplification on platforms like TikTok and YouTube often exposes them to radicalizing, hostile ideologies that devalue women and negatively impact mental health.


Sounds excactly like radical feminism to me.  Roll Eyes


Sounds like an explanation is needed as to why some or many females had to be or has to be radical for change to happen …. Yet we are still a long way from real equal acceptance.
What alerted me as what looks like steps going backwards are being taken, by certain groups of males, was when I was watching MAFS. This one dude and his all male members of family and friends was very reminiscent of some of these ideologies below. (Tyson Gordon ex military)


Radical groups run or dominated by men often intersect with violent extremism, male supremacy, and far-right ideologies.Types of Male-Dominated Radical GroupsMale Supremacist and Misogynistic Groups: These networks—including certain online subcultures and involuntary celibate (incel) communities—promote rigid gender roles, view women as inferior or hostile, and sometimes normalize or encourage violence against women.Far-Right and White Nationalist Movements: Organizations such as neo-Nazi cells, accelerationist groups (e.g., The Base), and white supremacist militias are overwhelmingly male. They often use ideas of aggrieved or lost masculinity to recruit members through a promise of restoring social hierarchy or status.Violent Extremist and Terrorist Networks: Many global and domestic militant organizations feature hierarchical leadership structures operated by men, utilizing appeals to camaraderie, duty, and hyper-masculinity to draw in vulnerable recruits.Common Recruitment and Radicalization TacticsOnline Grooming: Groups exploit digital spaces, gaming platforms, and social media feeds to target isolated or insecure young men.Exploiting Real Grievances: Organizers often hook individuals by acknowledging real challenges—such as mental health struggles, economic isolation, or loneliness—only to redirect those frustrations into blame, hate speech, and misogyny.Promoting Rigid Stereotypes: Recruitment relies heavily on enforcing narrow definitions of manhood that reject vulnerability and demand the exertion of power and control.




You didn't just admit to watching that BS let alone referencing it did you?

As to the signs or should I say symptoms that lead to these younger men being of the mentality you have listed - ask yourself why that is?

Like they are acting from a time well past.

It's because of rabid feminism - not feminism of the suffragettes - but todays feminazis - branding young males as lesser because they are laden with male toxicity - that they should be guilty for being who they are..... young men.

They are the result of the femosphere.



Gnads, reality shows like MAFS (I actually hate the show) is laden with so much strife and drinking at dinner table with toxic behaviour by some!
Some are influencers and that Tyson is one such influencer where he thinks he’s the man of the house and the woman has to abide by him.
What message is that giving younger single blokes?
We can’t close our eyes to all this sh1t going on out there.

There’s a movement with mum’s staying home and doing all the old fashioned stuff being the old fashioned wife … I forgot the acronym they use to describe themselves, but how in this day and age is a single income earner going to afford to pay for clothes, petrol, food, bills, schooling, rent or home repayments? And an occasional treat.
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Reply #38 - Today at 1:31am
 
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There’s a movement with mum’s staying home and doing all the old fashioned stuff being the old fashioned wife … I forgot the acronym they use to describe themselves, but how in this day and age is a single income earner going to afford to pay for clothes, petrol, food, bills, schooling, rent or home repayments? And an occasional treat.


You can thank feminism and dual incomes for that. You can't double household income and not expect inflation to eat that back to the equivalent of one income. Supply and demand, basic economics.
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Reply #39 - Today at 1:41am
 
Anyway - another one of my cautionary or 'teaching' tools that has now caught on is the - wait for it - resurrection of Forbidden Planet and the 'Monsters From the Id'. (I love to lambast mothra and such with that concept).

Other people are now using that to indicate the really terrible things that you can see developing from those who function too closely to the primitive beast mind - and seek power, control and total rule over others.  ANYONE who seeks power and money in any civilised culture is operating from the primitive mind..... and you see the harm to others done daily.

See the education system, the houses of higher 'learning', governments ...... all those different types of eight million cubic miles of machinery that can never be shut down...and all dedicated to one purpose, Morbius...to instantly transfer anything from one part of the planet to another at the instigation of any Krell mind... any thought, any idea, any ideology, any concept, any perceived need ...... but the Krell forgot one deadly thing, Morbius... their own inner lust for death and destruction... the primitive mind ......the Id.........  Id, Id, Id..... it's an ... old term for the hidden subconscious... the mindless primitive from which we all evolved...

Shakespeare wrote The Tempest hundreds of years ago - some say he had to be a time traveller out of his future time to know the things he did about humanity... certainly he was prescient....... and certainly the advent of AI will make it all much, much worse....

Forget the 'manosphere' - it's just another nonsense idea thought up to discredit the crying of humanity kept down and oppressed for real .... unlike those currently over-privileged who think that any time they are forced to accept equal treatment they are being oppressed.

You know who those are - they are the ones that cry the loudest about being oppressed, over their caviar and champagne while the many are locked out for life and can only hope for the scraps thrown to the dogs.... and it is now much worse under the current Western blight of 'progressive left' governments with their eye-bleaching endlessly.
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