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Reply #60 - Sep 21st, 2026 at 1:12pm
 
Love the way the proponents of the monstrosity imagine that simply saying that some speaker is 'against gender treatment' is somehow sufficient to deny credibility to the views expressed.. amazing - shows how far the human mind has sunk under modern medical malpractice - the same medicine that permits idiots to exist in numbers and with all the mental illnesses rampant through DNA and low infant mortality etc.  Bring on the hare-lips....

Hey - I even get clowns trying to lambast a simple statement that the MIND and the BRAIN are different structures - one is the hardware - the other PARTIALLY the software as inputted through various means throughout life..

Yes - biology has nothing to do with this - talk about a delusional state - men and women are just artificial constructs - nothing artificial about the construction here:-

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Reply #61 - Sep 21st, 2026 at 2:19pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 21st, 2026 at 12:36pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 21st, 2026 at 12:14pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 21st, 2026 at 12:00pm:
Why do the right want to spend 60% of their time being unreasonable to 0.2% of the population that are doing absolutely nothing to impact them ?

I don't think I have even met a Trans person in the last 40 years but would be happy to treat one the same as anyone else. They are just people living their life the best they can same as all of us..

I don't see anything to be frighted of.

Maybe in the case of the right its their own sexuality ?



Wake up from your dumb twattery, duckwit.


Sadly, it does indeed affect everybody. Gender ideology seeks to replace our sexual being with the superficial idea of a so-called gender identity. The stereotypical ideas about femininity and masculinity that second-wave feminists fought fiercely to abolish, and that they referred to as “gender”, have now been given recognition and standing in law. The first-wave women’s movement of over a century ago fought relentlessly for women-only spaces to safeguard women and girls from rampant sexual harassment and assault; now any man who says he identifies as a woman has the right to enter women’s spaces.

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1789684191/43#43


Do you read what you type ? I hope not it would be a waste of time.

Cheesy Cheesy

Carry the flag for dumb twattery.  Gender politics is ANOTHER area where unletterd, ignorant duckwittery flounders.

Have mo' peas, duckwit, that's your mental forte.
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Reply #62 - Sep 22nd, 2026 at 9:00am
 
"A landmark Finnish study has found a sharp rise in psychiatric illness among adolescents following sex-alteration procedures.

The peer-reviewed study, published in Acta Paediatrica, tracked every young person under 23 who contacted Finland's gender clinics between 1996 and 2019.

A total 2,083 individuals were studied, with 16,643 matched controls. They were followed for up to 25 years.


Finland's health registers are mandatory, which means no one opts out — this is the complete national picture.

The numbers: psychiatric morbidity rose from 9.8% to 60.7% in adolescents who underwent feminising reassignment, and from 21.6% to 54.5% in masculinising reassignment.

Even after adjusting for prior psychiatric history, gender-referred adolescents faced five times the risk of male population controls, and three times the risk of female controls.

"Psychiatric needs do not subside after medical gender reassignment," the authors concluded.

Referrals after 2010 arrived sicker. 47.9% had already needed psychiatric treatment before their first clinic visit, against 15.3% among controls.

The authors' read: for some adolescents, gender distress may be secondary to other mental health challenges.

The evidence keeps mounting. The silencing continues anyway.

How many more adolescents will be told this is "care"?

Kurt Mahlburg"
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Reply #63 - Sep 22nd, 2026 at 1:33pm
 
Biology is merely XX or XY chromosomes.  That is the science. Anything outside that is not science it is interpretation Cool.
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Reply #64 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 12:08am
 
mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 20th, 2026 at 5:40pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2026 at 4:34pm:
Here's the study itself, linked to in the OP:


Using twin data to examine heritable and intrauterine hormonal influences on transgender and gender diverse identities


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Previous reports have suggested genetic and prenatal hormonal contributions to gender diversity, albeit using small datasets. To further examine this issue, we recruited 27 twin pairs from two Australian specialist gender clinics, and obtained details of zygosity and self-reported gender identity. To increase the power of our analysis, we pooled our observations with previously published twin data that used comparable methods to ours. The pooled sample of 463 twin pairs comprised 47/222 (21.2%) MZ and 21/241 (8.7%) DZ concordant pairs. Based on a 1% population prevalence estimate, the estimated relative risk ratios for transgender concordance were 21.2 for MZ pairs (95%CI 16.4–27.3), and 8.7 for DZ pairs (95%CI 5.8–13.1). These findings suggest a substantial genetic contribution to gender diversity. In contrast, the combined results for concordance among same and opposite sex DZ pairs were 12/131 (9.2%) and 9/110 (8.2%) respectively, and did not support a role for prenatal sex hormones in the occurrence of gender diversity.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-06265-6



A very stupid article.

Why?

Because gender is not genetic, not biological. Sex is.



It's not an "article", fruitbat. It's a peer reviewed study published in Nature.



Did you have to be a Tranny to qualify as a peer to review that rubbish?

These democrats have XY chromosomes they're males they have Autogynephilia
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Reply #65 - Sep 23rd, 2026 at 10:46am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 23rd, 2026 at 12:08am:
mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2026 at 6:59pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 20th, 2026 at 5:40pm:
mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2026 at 4:34pm:
Here's the study itself, linked to in the OP:


Using twin data to examine heritable and intrauterine hormonal influences on transgender and gender diverse identities


Abstract

Previous reports have suggested genetic and prenatal hormonal contributions to gender diversity, albeit using small datasets. To further examine this issue, we recruited 27 twin pairs from two Australian specialist gender clinics, and obtained details of zygosity and self-reported gender identity. To increase the power of our analysis, we pooled our observations with previously published twin data that used comparable methods to ours. The pooled sample of 463 twin pairs comprised 47/222 (21.2%) MZ and 21/241 (8.7%) DZ concordant pairs. Based on a 1% population prevalence estimate, the estimated relative risk ratios for transgender concordance were 21.2 for MZ pairs (95%CI 16.4–27.3), and 8.7 for DZ pairs (95%CI 5.8–13.1). These findings suggest a substantial genetic contribution to gender diversity. In contrast, the combined results for concordance among same and opposite sex DZ pairs were 12/131 (9.2%) and 9/110 (8.2%) respectively, and did not support a role for prenatal sex hormones in the occurrence of gender diversity.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-06265-6



A very stupid article.

Why?

Because gender is not genetic, not biological. Sex is.



It's not an "article", fruitbat. It's a peer reviewed study published in Nature.



Did you have to be a Tranny to qualify as a peer to review that rubbish?

These democrats have XY chromosomes they're males they have Autogynephilia


Aren't they are absolutely a pair of delusional ugly phukkers.

And they put these people in positions of authority over others. Roll Eyes
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Reply #66 - Sep 27th, 2026 at 11:06am
 
Another one for the "Oh, FFS!!" File :



An Episcopal priest in New York City declared that Jesus is “transgender” and told the congregation that if they deny this, they are denying the “divinity” of Christ.

Reverend Flourish Klink, who considers herself a transgender nonbinary individual, made the outlandish assertions during a recent sermon at Christ & St. Stephen’s Episcopal Church.




And Mohammed was a trans lesbian. Every Muslim knows that.
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Reply #67 - Sep 27th, 2026 at 1:03pm
 
Maybe ghe is try or tri-binary xxy    :0
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Reply #68 - Sep 27th, 2026 at 1:32pm
 
I had the opinion that Jesus was gay. No relationship with women. Hangs around guys. A bit effeminent. I see no issue with a priest saying that he is a transgender. The fact that Jesus is fiction just furthers the issue of his sexuality into obscurity and irrelevance.
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Reply #69 - Sep 29th, 2026 at 9:23am
 
Queer Theory, the Ultimate Hypocrisy

Sandra Pertot, Sep 28 2026

What is gender? The High Court has decided that by relying on the definition that a woman is an adult female human, Sall Grover discriminated against a transwoman who is not an adult female but is a woman because he says he is.
This makes it clear that under the Australian Sex Discrimination Act, a person’s self-declared gender is a protected characteristic, but a person’s biological sex isn’t: translated, this means that a trait that can be observed and agreed upon by individuals with even a limited biological knowledge isn’t accepted as a fact, while a person’s unobservable “internal sense” of their gender becomes the only criteria needed to claim legal protection from any perceived discrimination.

Note: my internal sense of being a woman because I am an adult female human prohibits me from referring to a person born male as “she” or “her”, to have to do so would cause me significant distress.

Roxannne Tickle’s claim to be a woman is just one of a long list of newly created gender identities. Apart from transwoman and transman, these are the most common gender identities:

♦ Non-Binary Individuals whose gender identity does not fit strictly into the binary of solely “man” or “woman”. This group comprises about a third of the adult transgender community, with the choice “sub identities”.

♦ Genderfluid: People whose gender expression or identity shifts and changes over time rather than staying fixed.

♦ Agender: People who feel they have no specific gender or describe themselves as gender-neutral.

♦ Bigender: People who experience two distinct gender identities, either at the same time or alternating

Overall there are, apparently, upward of 70 separate gender identities to choose from. One of my favourites is

Ambigender:Having two specific gender identities simultaneously without any fluidity or fluctuations.

How did we get here?

The cynic in me speculates that as female issues of inequality were addressed and largely resolved in the Western world by second wave feminism of the 1960-70s, the academics who service the departments of Gender Studies in tertiary institutions were left with nothing controversial to trade on, so they had to come up with a new area related to gender and/or sexuality to justify their existence.

The malleability of gender roles provided the perfect solution. Throughout history there have been individuals, female and male, who for one reason or another wanted to live in the gender role of the other sex. Importantly, from my work with male to female transsexuals in past decades, it is clear that these individuals did not believe they literally became the other sex/gender, despite sex-reassignment surgery. Disregarding  this historical evidence, Gender Studies departments have been revitalised by promoting the new theory of intersectional feminism which includes the position that any man who claims to be a woman is a woman.

The author of Transgender History, Susan Stryker, a professor emerita of gender and women’s studies at the University of Arizona, outlines the shift in academic direction to issues of gender rather than sex discrimination, and gives a clue to how modern gender theory became so influential.
There rest is here.
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Reply #70 - Sep 29th, 2026 at 9:27am
 
Although the power and influence of gender ideology across many sections of society took most of us by surprise, the takeover had been a long time in the planning.
Since the 1990s, queer theory has become increasingly influential in reshaping the meaning of sex, sexual orientation and gender. Queer theory evolved out of the works of philosopher Michel Foucault, who argued that gender and sexual identities are not biologically determined, but are the result of the social constructs that shape our understanding of society and culture:

Queer theory is a critical theory that examines and critiques society’s definitions of gender and sexuality, with the goal of revealing the social and power structures at play in our everyday lives. In particular, queer theory can serve as a lens to examine subjects outside the boundaries of traditional gender and sexuality binaries that assume that heterosexuality and cisgender* are “the norm.”

(*Cisgender is a contested term which describes a person whose gender identity matches their sex.)

Further, David M. Halperin, an American sociologist, has this to say:

Unlike gay identity, which, though deliberately proclaimed in an act of affirmation, is nonetheless rooted in the positive fact of homosexual object-choice, queer identity need not be grounded in any positive truth or in any stable reality. As the very word implies, “queer” does not name some natural kind or refer to some determinate object; it acquires its meaning from its oppositional relation to the norm.

Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal, the legitimate, the dominant.  There is nothing in particular to which it necessarily refers. It is an identity without an essence.

Until recent times, the general population has been largely unaware of the cultural shift reshaping society. Influence was spread from universities by embedding trans ideology across faculties of health and education whose graduates then acted as missionaries. They spread the word by weaponizing the claim that gender confused adults and children were a vulnerable, marginalised group and any challenge to this was akin to murdering them because of an unsupported claim that they would self-harm if not “affirmed”.  https://newdiscourses.com/books/

Judith Butler is an American intersectional feminist, queer philosopher, and gender studies scholar whose work has been strongly influential the fields of feminist and queer theory, and has provided a theoretical foundation for transgender advocacy. Butler is best known for the book Gender Trouble: Feminism and the Subversion of Identity

Queer theorists, like ,Butler, use a lot of pseudoscientific beliefs and ideas couched in dense word salads to support the idea that gender and sex is anything you want it to be:

"Biological sex is also a social construction—gender subsumes sex. According to this view, then, the social construction of the natural presupposes the cancellation of the natural by the social. Insofar as it relies on this construal, the sex/gender distinction founders … if gender is the social significance that sex assumes within a given culture … then what, if anything, is left of ‘sex’ once it has assumed its social character as gender? … If gender consists of the social meanings that sex assumes, then sex does not accrue social meanings as additive properties, but rather is replaced by the social meanings it takes on; sex is relinquished in the course of that assumption, and gender emerges, not as a term in a continued relationship of opposition to sex, but as the term which absorbs and displaces ‘sex’."

To translate, her argument runs like this: gender is performative, therefore women are defined (only) as a woman by how they behave, so anyone who performs as a woman is a woman, and because of this sex must also be a social construct, which means that gender replaces sex, and since social constructs change over time, it is possible for a person to change sex. One of her claims to fame is the discovery of “the female penis”, the intact genitals of a male who identifies as a woman.

https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/sexual-politics/queer-theory-the-ultimate-...
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Reply #71 - Sep 29th, 2026 at 10:08am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 29th, 2026 at 9:23am:
Queer Theory, the Ultimate Hypocrisy

Sandra Pertot, Sep 28 2026

What is gender? The High Court has decided that by relying on the definition that a woman is an adult female human, Sall Grover discriminated against a transwoman who is not an adult female but is a woman because he says he is.
This makes it clear that under the Australian Sex Discrimination Act, a person’s self-declared gender is a protected characteristic, but a person’s biological sex isn’t: translated, this means that a trait that can be observed and agreed upon by individuals with even a limited biological knowledge isn’t accepted as a fact, while a person’s unobservable “internal sense” of their gender becomes the only criteria needed to claim legal protection from any perceived discrimination.

Note: my internal sense of being a woman because I am an adult female human prohibits me from referring to a person born male as “she” or “her”, to have to do so would cause me significant distress.

Roxannne Tickle’s claim to be a woman is just one of a long list of newly created gender identities. Apart from transwoman and transman, these are the most common gender identities:

♦ Non-Binary Individuals whose gender identity does not fit strictly into the binary of solely “man” or “woman”. This group comprises about a third of the adult transgender community, with the choice “sub identities”.

♦ Genderfluid: People whose gender expression or identity shifts and changes over time rather than staying fixed.

♦ Agender: People who feel they have no specific gender or describe themselves as gender-neutral.

♦ Bigender: People who experience two distinct gender identities, either at the same time or alternating

Overall there are, apparently, upward of 70 separate gender identities to choose from. One of my favourites is

Ambigender:Having two specific gender identities simultaneously without any fluidity or fluctuations.

How did we get here?

The cynic in me speculates that as female issues of inequality were addressed and largely resolved in the Western world by second wave feminism of the 1960-70s, the academics who service the departments of Gender Studies in tertiary institutions were left with nothing controversial to trade on, so they had to come up with a new area related to gender and/or sexuality to justify their existence.

The malleability of gender roles provided the perfect solution. Throughout history there have been individuals, female and male, who for one reason or another wanted to live in the gender role of the other sex. Importantly, from my work with male to female transsexuals in past decades, it is clear that these individuals did not believe they literally became the other sex/gender, despite sex-reassignment surgery. Disregarding  this historical evidence, Gender Studies departments have been revitalised by promoting the new theory of intersectional feminism which includes the position that any man who claims to be a woman is a woman.

The author of Transgender History, Susan Stryker, a professor emerita of gender and women’s studies at the University of Arizona, outlines the shift in academic direction to issues of gender rather than sex discrimination, and gives a clue to how modern gender theory became so influential.
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Some of those clowns change gender identity hourly or daily.


They truly don't know if they're Arthur or Martha.

Further cements in my opinion that they all have mental issues.
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Reply #72 - Oct 1st, 2026 at 9:56pm
 
Over time, however, the sphere of autonomy expanded relentlessly to include the ability not just to make choices within a moral framework defined by an existing religious tradition, but also to choose one’s framework and even make up moral rules for oneself.

This is nowhere more evident than in the sphere of sexuality, gender, and family life. Many countries have legalized abortion, which is typically framed as a way of protecting the autonomy of women to control their own bodies. But the final frontier in the denial of the significance of biology is the contemporary transgender movement. Transgender activists, supported by a good part of the medical establishment, assert that gender is wholly unrelated to biological sex; that is, to one’s XY chromosomes. Rather, it is a matter of individual choice, much as one might choose a new name or a place to live. They don’t want to be told that their genetic endowment will have powerful effects on their gender identity.

The notion that there is a strong underlying relationship between biological sex and gender identity became one of those verboten ideas in certain liberal circles during the 2010s and 2020s, a prohibition that has been rigorously enforced by transgender activists. The idea is not a very plausible one, however. It doesn’t make sense to think that people were choosing their gender identities over the centuries as a result of social pressure alone: the rootedness of human beings in their biological sex is a necessary precondition for reproduction and family life to take place. It would undermine Darwin’s theory of natural selection, not to mention his whole theory of sexual selection, which goes down the drain under these conditions. There have always been a small number of individuals who were unhappy with their gender identities, and in a liberal society their choices need to be respected. But one cannot build a political right around a characteristic that may or may not be natural, and is shared by only a small minority of human beings.

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