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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #61 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #62 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:37pm:

poor petal. Trying to explain how the democratic process is not democratic. What names appear on the Presidential voting slips? Shocked

The seven forged electoral certificates, strangely enough, said you-know-who.

Your DL ordered them to be dumped on the VP's desk to be certified in the Senate.

The VP at the time, Mike Pence, looked them over, placed them to one side, and counted the legitimate electoral college votes for the legitimate 46th prez.

Outside the Capitol building, authorities had just put out a fire on the rotunda, were sending the last few rioters arrested off to jail in police buses and were picking up signs reading STOP THE STEAL and HANG MIKE PENCE.

The person who directed all this was indicted and arrested, obviously. After becoming prez, he ordered the DOJ to drop all charges.

You, a sycophantic fanboy, don't want to call yourself Alt Right, and that's okay.

We'd use the more traditional, but far more accurate, description of fascist, but that's just us.

So there's two labels, Lee.

Take your pick.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #63 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:44pm

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

I didn't compile the democracy index, old boy.

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No longer the “Shining City Upon a Hill” as President Reagan proudly claimed in his parting note in 1989, the U.S. has been demoted from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” – an indictment of the so-called uniqueness of the American project. The demotion occurred in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) uses five categories for its annual report card on democracy. The U.S. performed poorly (see EIU Democracy Index) in two categories: Political Culture (6.25 out of 10), and Functioning of Government (6.43 out of 10).

If I did, I'd downgrade it even more.

Based on your DL's willingness to disobey court rulings, start endless wars and imposes taxes without Congressional approval, I'd place the US in the category of hybrid, one up from an authoritarian regime.

This, of course, is exactly the kind of political model you want.

Happy now?

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #64 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:07pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

The seven forged electoral certificates, strangely enough, said you-know-who.

What ballots didn't say Harris, Waltz and Trump, Vance? Cool

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

You, a sycophantic fanboy, don't want to call yourself Alt Right, and that's okay.

you still don't get it democracy is the process. It delivers the politicians. No more, no less - despite you wanting to weasel around it. Shocked

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

Take your pick.

Why don't you take the shovel then? Or of course a muck raker. Cool

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #65 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:30pm

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:07pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

The seven forged electoral certificates, strangely enough, said you-know-who.

What ballots didn't say Harris, Waltz and Trump, Vance? Cool

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

You, a sycophantic fanboy, don't want to call yourself Alt Right, and that's okay.

you still don't get it democracy is the process. It delivers the politicians. No more, no less - despite you wanting to weasel around it. Shocked

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:31pm:

Take your pick.

Why don't you take the shovel then? Or of course a muck raker. Cool

Thanks for your confession, Lee.

Cheers.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #66 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:54pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

I didn't compile the democracy index, old boy.

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No longer the “Shining City Upon a Hill” as President Reagan proudly claimed in his parting note in 1989, the U.S. has been demoted from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” – an indictment of the so-called uniqueness of the American project. The demotion occurred in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) uses five categories for its annual report card on democracy. The U.S. performed poorly (see EIU Democracy Index) in two categories: Political Culture (6.25 out of 10), and Functioning of Government (6.43 out of 10).

If I did, I'd downgrade it even more.

Based on your DL's willingness to disobey court rulings, start endless wars and imposes taxes without Congressional approval, I'd place the US in the category of hybrid, one up from an authoritarian regime.

This, of course, is exactly the kind of political model you want.

Happy now?

I do not think The Economist is reliable. It is a weekly version of The Granuiad.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #67 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 8:04pm

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:54pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

I didn't compile the democracy index, old boy.

Quote:

No longer the “Shining City Upon a Hill” as President Reagan proudly claimed in his parting note in 1989, the U.S. has been demoted from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” – an indictment of the so-called uniqueness of the American project. The demotion occurred in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) uses five categories for its annual report card on democracy. The U.S. performed poorly (see EIU Democracy Index) in two categories: Political Culture (6.25 out of 10), and Functioning of Government (6.43 out of 10).

If I did, I'd downgrade it even more.

Based on your DL's willingness to disobey court rulings, start endless wars and imposes taxes without Congressional approval, I'd place the US in the category of hybrid, one up from an authoritarian regime.

This, of course, is exactly the kind of political model you want.

Happy now?

I do not think The Economist is reliable. It is a weekly version of The Granuiad.

If it said that about the Kenyan, you'd agree, you know that.

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

You do not think, no?

Yes, Master.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #68 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 8:33pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:54pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

I didn't compile the democracy index, old boy.

Quote:

No longer the “Shining City Upon a Hill” as President Reagan proudly claimed in his parting note in 1989, the U.S. has been demoted from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” – an indictment of the so-called uniqueness of the American project. The demotion occurred in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) uses five categories for its annual report card on democracy. The U.S. performed poorly (see EIU Democracy Index) in two categories: Political Culture (6.25 out of 10), and Functioning of Government (6.43 out of 10).

If I did, I'd downgrade it even more.

Based on your DL's willingness to disobey court rulings, start endless wars and imposes taxes without Congressional approval, I'd place the US in the category of hybrid, one up from an authoritarian regime.

This, of course, is exactly the kind of political model you want.

Happy now?

I do not think The Economist is reliable. It is a weekly version of The Granuiad.

If it said that about the Kenyan, you'd agree, you know that.

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

You do not think, no?

Yes, Master.

Not at all.

I do not clap along like you mongs. All news outlets are partisan. If the Granuiad or the Economist criticise Obama or Labor or Labour or the rest, it's almost always a criticism of not going left enough.

The same on the other side - not right enough. But you have sniffed enough trousers to know that anyway, geriatric Sydney Pusher.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #69 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 9:11pm

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 8:33pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:54pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

I didn't compile the democracy index, old boy.

Quote:

No longer the “Shining City Upon a Hill” as President Reagan proudly claimed in his parting note in 1989, the U.S. has been demoted from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” – an indictment of the so-called uniqueness of the American project. The demotion occurred in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) uses five categories for its annual report card on democracy. The U.S. performed poorly (see EIU Democracy Index) in two categories: Political Culture (6.25 out of 10), and Functioning of Government (6.43 out of 10).

If I did, I'd downgrade it even more.

Based on your DL's willingness to disobey court rulings, start endless wars and imposes taxes without Congressional approval, I'd place the US in the category of hybrid, one up from an authoritarian regime.

This, of course, is exactly the kind of political model you want.

Happy now?

I do not think The Economist is reliable. It is a weekly version of The Granuiad.

If it said that about the Kenyan, you'd agree, you know that.

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

You do not think, no?

Yes, Master.

Not at all.

I do not clap along like you mongs. All news outlets are partisan. If the Granuiad or the Economist criticise Obama or Labor or Labour or the rest, it's almost always a criticism of not going left enough.

The same on the other side - not right enough. But you have sniffed enough trousers to know that anyway, geriatric Sydney Pusher.

We never called the US under the Kenyan a full democracy either, cadaver.

The US was a flawed democracy back when Obama was in power, praising our Aussie electoral commission, our funded elections and mandatory voting.

We, you see, are the real deal. You, on the other hand, are a naughty old Nazi.

It's just good to see Lee finally come out on your team.

At least we know where we all stand, ja?

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Reply #70 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 9:59pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 9:11pm:

We never called the US under the Kenyan a full democracy either, cadaver.

The US was a flawed democracy back when Obama was in power, praising our Aussie electoral commission, our funded elections and mandatory voting.

We, you see, are the real deal. You, on the other hand, are a naughty old Nazi.

It's just good to see Lee finally come out on your team.

At least we know where we all stand, ja?

Laughable, geriatric Sydney Push relict. Pathetic.

"We"?? "Real deal"?? "Our team"?

As you get more and more decrepit - you must be well past 85 - your world continues to shrink until it all reevolves around you - or as you dementedly calĺ it, 'we'.

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Reply #71 - Sep 7^th, 2026 at 10:18pm

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 9:59pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 9:11pm:

We never called the US under the Kenyan a full democracy either, cadaver.

The US was a flawed democracy back when Obama was in power, praising our Aussie electoral commission, our funded elections and mandatory voting.

We, you see, are the real deal. You, on the other hand, are a naughty old Nazi.

It's just good to see Lee finally come out on your team.

At least we know where we all stand, ja?

Laughable, geriatric Sydney Push relict. Pathetic.

"We"?? "Real deal"?? "Our team"?

As you get more and more decrepit - you must be well past 85 - your world continues to shrink until it all reevolves around you - or as you dementedly calĺ it, 'we'.

Just so, arse-petal, we. Free full representation, and we could certainly make improvements too.

We're hardly a democracy in the true Athenian context, but who is?

You, on the other hand, despise everything we stand for. You want our semblance of democracy overturned. You want a fully authoritarian regime, Vlad-style, with no representation at all. We?

You.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #72 - Sep 8^th, 2026 at 7:54am

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

Obama was elected for two terms.

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #73 - Sep 8^th, 2026 at 9:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 8^th, 2026 at 7:54am:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

Obama was elected for two terms.

Yes, but it's his cute way of calling Joe Biden a Jigaboo.

Cunning, no?

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Re: RFK Jr policies cause first measles deaths
Reply #74 - Sep 8^th, 2026 at 9:36am

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 8:04pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 7:54pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 5:44pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 3:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 2:49pm:

lee wrote on Sep 7^th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Sep 6^th, 2026 at 9:14pm:

You didn't give an answer. So, we'll assume exactly what Mothra said.

You're a sycophantic fanboy, one of his groupies.

Ah now democracy is merely a popularity contest. Shocked

The US isn't a democracy, silly Billy. It's a failed, flawed democracy.

Just ask Panther. The US is supposedly a Constitutional Republic. There is no representative democracy. The electoral college decides who becomes prez.

And in 2021, your DL sent seven forged electoral certificates to be counted in the Senate. Strangely enough, they all nominated he, contrary to the will of the people who voted.

So no, Lee, the 47th prez does not support democracy, and as we've all seen, you support the 47th.

The jig's up. You don't support democracy at all, and that's okay.

Why don't you just agree with Mother and say what you truly are?

Is that how and why O'Bama was elected for 3 terms? Coz the US is 'a failed democracy'?

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

I didn't compile the democracy index, old boy.

Quote:

No longer the “Shining City Upon a Hill” as President Reagan proudly claimed in his parting note in 1989, the U.S. has been demoted from a “full democracy” to a “flawed democracy” – an indictment of the so-called uniqueness of the American project. The demotion occurred in 2016 with the election of Donald Trump. The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) uses five categories for its annual report card on democracy. The U.S. performed poorly (see EIU Democracy Index) in two categories: Political Culture (6.25 out of 10), and Functioning of Government (6.43 out of 10).

If I did, I'd downgrade it even more.

Based on your DL's willingness to disobey court rulings, start endless wars and imposes taxes without Congressional approval, I'd place the US in the category of hybrid, one up from an authoritarian regime.

This, of course, is exactly the kind of political model you want.

Happy now?

I do not think The Economist is reliable. It is a weekly version of The Granuiad.

If it said that about the Kenyan, you'd agree, you know that.

When your guys get in, it's splendid. Otherwise it's failed.

You do not think, no?

Yes, Master.

I have no 'your guy'. The Uniparty has taken electoral turns to screw most Western countries, from North America through Europe to Australia, over the last few decades. There has been no discernible difference between the Republicans and Dems, Labour and Consetvatives, Labor and LNP.

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