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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8806 Gender:	Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect Reply #15 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 3:20pm How many are marine engineers and architects in this topic?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 154859 Gender:	Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect Reply #16 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 3:39pm How many think magnets don't work if they get wet in this topic?
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8806 Gender:	Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect Reply #17 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:03pm Why do navy ships have to be degaussed?
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25743 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect Reply #18 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:05pm Trump could not swim even with floaties. And he could not build a model house out of a Lego playset.
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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11263 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect Reply #19 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:06pm tallowood wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:03pm: Why do navy ships have to be degaussed? Magnetic mines. But, we all know magnets do work in water it's just that Donald Trump seems to think that they don't.
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Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect
Reply #20 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:28pm

Carl D wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:06pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:03pm:

Why do navy ships have to be degaussed?

Magnetic mines.

But, we all know magnets do work in water it's just that Donald Trump seems to think that they don't. Cheesy

Reducing magnetic signature is done not for mines and missiles only.
Strong magnetic fields also induce electric currents, statics and sparks starting fires.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Израиль Навсегда Posts: 8806 Gender:	Re: Trump is also a marine engineer and architect Reply #21 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:35pm UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 4:05pm: Trump could not swim even with floaties. And he could not build a model house out of a Lego playset. Some antique and medieval ship crews often were discourage from learning to swim so they don't abandon ship too readily
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Reply #22 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 16^th, 2026 at 2:17pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2026 at 2:09pm:

The U.S. Navy is considering a major redesign of its new Ford-class aircraft carriers to better match President Trump’s preferred aesthetic for the warships, according to seven current and former U.S. officials familiar with the matter who spoke to the Washington Post.

The President has expressed concerns over the location of the “island” on the Ford-class of carriers, which operates as the ship’s bridge as well as an air traffic control tower and is located more towards the rear of the vessel, with Trump preferring the multistory tower be moved to the middle of the flight deck, like on aircraft carriers seen during World War ll.

Moving that command center would be the second major design change prompted by President Trump, who on Thursday issued a national security memorandum directing the Navy to develop a plan to revert to older steam-powered catapults on future aircraft carriers, scrapping the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) currently employed on the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78).

He wants to go back to the steam-powered catapults because he thinks that magnets don't work when they get wet. True story.

Has there ever been anyone as stupid as Trump?

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Reply #23 - Aug 18^th, 2026 at 9:53pm

tallowood wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

How many are marine engineers and architects in this topic?

I am a Naval architect and engineer, not as much money in NA which i why i went for engineering.

Navy ships are all built to exceed Lloyds,Veritas,ABS and ISO standards none of these groups have any specs for EMAL.

US navy carriers are required to meet 4200 launches between failure steam does this EMAL fails between 400-600 launches.

Consequences of failure is a term every engineer is familiar with.

There are 4 catapults on carriers.

If one steam catapult fails it's close off valves repair pipe or seals the other 3 catapults are still operational it's a low tech repair the ships are equipped to do it relatively unskilled work.
Flight launches are reduced by 25% with one catapult offline

If one EMAL fails it the other 3 are shut down. It cannot be repaired while other catapults are operating due to immense voltage and electromagnetc fields.
It's a highly specialised repair unlikely to have spare parts on board to fix it. A single electrical fault can knock out all catapults which is far more complicated than fixing a mechanical steam valve.
This results in all flight operations halted just to fix one catapult.

EMAL is not even close to Navy requirements for 4200 launches between failure when it does fail no planes are launched.

Steam launches planes every 30 seconds it's cheap reliable easy to fix.
These ships have to be self sufficient for repairs.

Back to the regular idiocy from those with TDS Wink

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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 11:49am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 9:53pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

How many are marine engineers and architects in this topic?

I am a Naval architect and engineer, not as much money in NA which i why i went for engineering.

Navy ships are all built to exceed Lloyds,Veritas,ABS and ISO standards none of these groups have any specs for EMAL.

US navy carriers are required to meet 4200 launches between failure steam does this EMAL fails between 400-600 launches.

Consequences of failure is a term every engineer is familiar with.

There are 4 catapults on carriers.

If one steam catapult fails it's close off valves repair pipe or seals the other 3 catapults are still operational it's a low tech repair the ships are equipped to do it relatively unskilled work.
Flight launches are reduced by 25% with one catapult offline

If one EMAL fails it the other 3 are shut down. It cannot be repaired while other catapults are operating due to immense voltage and electromagnetc fields.
It's a highly specialised repair unlikely to have spare parts on board to fix it. A single electrical fault can knock out all catapults which is far more complicated than fixing a mechanical steam valve.
This results in all flight operations halted just to fix one catapult.

EMAL is not even close to Navy requirements for 4200 launches between failure when it does fail no planes are launched.

Steam launches planes every 30 seconds it's cheap reliable easy to fix.
These ships have to be self sufficient for repairs.

Back to the regular idiocy from those with TDS Wink

Just so. I believe you're a chemical engineer too, yes?

Back in covid, you gave us all sorts of reasons why injections of bleach to do a number on the lungs was scientific, remember?

Strange. When DL just said he was just having a laugh, you disappeared - poof!

Bye bye, Baron.

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Reply #25 - Yesterday at 11:55am

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 9:53pm:

tallowood wrote on Aug 18^th, 2026 at 3:20pm:

How many are marine engineers and architects in this topic?

I am a Naval architect and engineer, not as much money in NA which i why i went for engineering.

Navy ships are all built to exceed Lloyds,Veritas,ABS and ISO standards none of these groups have any specs for EMAL.

US navy carriers are required to meet 4200 launches between failure steam does this EMAL fails between 400-600 launches.

Consequences of failure is a term every engineer is familiar with.

There are 4 catapults on carriers.

If one steam catapult fails it's close off valves repair pipe or seals the other 3 catapults are still operational it's a low tech repair the ships are equipped to do it relatively unskilled work.
Flight launches are reduced by 25% with one catapult offline

If one EMAL fails it the other 3 are shut down. It cannot be repaired while other catapults are operating due to immense voltage and electromagnetc fields.
It's a highly specialised repair unlikely to have spare parts on board to fix it. A single electrical fault can knock out all catapults which is far more complicated than fixing a mechanical steam valve.
This results in all flight operations halted just to fix one catapult.

EMAL is not even close to Navy requirements for 4200 launches between failure when it does fail no planes are launched.

Steam launches planes every 30 seconds it's cheap reliable easy to fix.
These ships have to be self sufficient for repairs.

Back to the regular idiocy from those with TDS Wink

That's not what TDS "specialists" want to hear.

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