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Jul 28th, 2026 at 5:49pm
 
Firefighters race to control wildfires near Madrid and Bordeaux as another heatwave hits

Firefighters are racing to control wildfires near Madrid and Bordeaux as another heatwave hits

Temperatures will reach 39C (102F) this week in the Spanish capital and south-west France, with no rain forecast until at least Friday

Firefighters west of Bordeaux are reporting a relatively good night, our correspondent writes, with the fire stabilised – but not under control

In the Gironde region, which includes Bordeaux, the wildfire has burned more than 42,000 hectares, with 240 homes destroyed - see drone photos here

"[It] reminds me a little bit like Pompeii," one resident of Bordeaux tells us. "It was quite difficult to breathe"

More than 300,000 people have been evacuated across France and Spain in recent days.


North America wildfires burn millions of acres in western US and Canada

Over the weekend, dozens of wildfires burned over 1 million acres in the US state of Oregon. Thousands are under evacuation orders as the fires have burned homes and forced the closure of major highways.

In Canada, thousands of lightning strikes from storms over the weekend also ignited fresh fires in British Columbia. Prime Minister Mark Carney has said this is one of the worst wildfire seasons on record for the country.


Climate collapse, due to human activity = future human civilisation collapsing because of it.

Let's look the other way and keep the heat up.
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Reply #1 - Jul 28th, 2026 at 5:52pm
 
A couple of weeks ago :

Russia Deploys Emergency Crews to Siberia as Krasnoyarsk Wildfires Nearly Quadruple in Size

Authorities in Siberia’s Krasnoyarsk region said Wednesday that they have reinforced emergency crews to combat a surge in wildfires.

The total area consumed by the blazes has grown from 16,656 hectares (41,150 acres) on Saturday to 62,600 hectares (154,700 acres) as of Wednesday morning. The number of active fires is currently hovering around 90, with nearly all of them burning in remote, rugged terrain accessible only by air.
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Reply #2 - Jul 28th, 2026 at 6:35pm
 
Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28th, 2026 at 5:49pm:
In Canada, thousands of lightning strikes from storms over the weekend also ignited fresh fires in British Columbia. Prime Minister Mark Carney has said this is one of the worst wildfire seasons on record for the country.


Climate collapse, due to human activity = future human civilisation collapsing because of it.



Oh dear, now lightning is climate. I guess arson is also climate. Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Jul 28th, 2026 at 7:01pm
 
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Reply #4 - Jul 28th, 2026 at 7:36pm
 
"Romps et al. constructed a proxy based on the energy available to make air rise in the atmosphere and on precipitation rates to model the frequency of lightning strikes across the continental United States. They predict that the number of lightning strikes will increase by about 12% for every degree of rise in global average air temperature."

Ah, predictions and proxies. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

You do realise that lightning is local. Nothing to do with "global average air temperature" Wink.

And models don't have a high enough accuracy to predict lightning. The model grid resolutions are too wide for thunderstorms.
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Reply #5 - Jul 28th, 2026 at 8:49pm
 
Welcome to the 21st century Lee.

AI models now forecast lightning strikes up to several hours early. They use radar, satellite, and weather data.

These machine learning systems beat old physics models in speed and local accuracy.

New computer models look at massive sets of sky data. They spot patterns that lead to sudden storms.

Data sources: Radars, weather satellites, and ground sensors feed
real-time info into the system.

Speed: AI runs in seconds instead of hours. It gives fast warnings before storms grow.

Precision: Algorithms track small local areas. They pinpoint exact zones where strikes will hit.
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Reply #6 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 7:39am
 
Greg Mullins, a former commissioner of Fire and Rescue NSW and a founding member of Emergency Leaders for Climate Action, said that as a result of climate change, firefighters were battling fires that did not behave the way that textbooks said they should.

Hotter weather is drying soil and plants faster than it once did, and as a result, areas that should not be prone to fire were beginning to burn, while some fire-prone areas were proving to be dangerously combustible soon after rains.

“The thing that gives me the horrors is what an El Nino fire season will look like after this,” said Mullins.

The Bureau of Meteorology declared an El Nino event was under way in June, and since then, the water temperatures in the Pacific – one of the key indicators of the phenomenon – have risen faster than any other occasion in history. El Nino tends to drive temperatures higher on the east coast of Australia, making fire seasons longer and more dangerous.


How extreme weather in Europe and North America is signalling a new era of fire danger for Australia

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-extreme-weather-in-europe-...
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Reply #7 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 12:52pm
 
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To keep a fire burning brightly without going out, you need the right balance of oxygen, dry fuel, and proper arrangement
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Reply #8 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 1:49pm
 
Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28th, 2026 at 8:49pm:
AI models now forecast lightning strikes up to several hours early. They use radar, satellite, and weather data.


And you have proof of this? Or does it merely say there is a probability of a lightning strike? Roll Eyes

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28th, 2026 at 8:49pm:
These machine learning systems beat old physics models in speed and local accuracy.


So how do they beat physics/ Aren't the algorithms supposed to be physics derived?

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28th, 2026 at 8:49pm:
New computer models look at massive sets of sky data. They spot patterns that lead to sudden storms.



Models are only as good as any data it receives. If the grid resolution of the data is low, there is low confidence. The data is too sparse to accurately predict anything.

From AI: "GOES Geostationary Lightning Mapper (GLM) — optical lightning imager from geostationary orbit

    Spatial resolution (near-uniform): about 8 km at nadir and 14 km at the edge of field of view."

Also "Instrument location accuracy

This is usually reported as how accurately the instrument can geolocate a lightning flash/event, which is not the same thing as pixel size. For the exact “instrument accuracy” number, you need the instrument-specific performance spec (often stated in mission/algorithm documentation). From the sources I pulled here, I can give:

    GLM pixel/ground sampling size (8–14 km) but not a single official “instrument accuracy” error (e.g., 1–2 km RMS) from the NOAA pages I found. "

Not accurate enough. Roll Eyes

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28th, 2026 at 8:49pm:
Precision: Algorithms track small local areas. They pinpoint exact zones where strikes will hit.


See above. And they cannot "predict". Roll Eyes

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Reply #9 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 2:03pm
 
Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 29th, 2026 at 7:39am:
     Posted on: Today at 5:39am
Greg Mullins, a former commissioner of Fire and Rescue NSW and a founding member of Emergency Leaders for Climate Action, said that as a result of climate change, firefighters were battling fires that did not behave the way that textbooks said they should.



Ah a climate activist. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Then he must be able to show that wildfires are burning more area historically. Cool

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 29th, 2026 at 7:39am:
Hotter weather is drying soil and plants faster than it once did, and as a result, areas that should not be prone to fire were beginning to burn, while some fire-prone areas were proving to be dangerously combustible soon after rains.


So exactly whch areas have never been prone to fire|? data please. Data trumpdss assertions. Wink

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 29th, 2026 at 7:39am:
“The thing that gives me the horrors is what an El Nino fire season will look like after this,” said Mullins.



Oh noes a weather event uis now climate. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 29th, 2026 at 7:39am:
The Bureau of Meteorology declared an El Nino event was under way in June, and since then, the water temperatures in the Pacific – one of the key indicators of the phenomenon – have risen faster than any other occasion in history. El Nino tends to drive temperatures higher on the east coast of Australia, making fire seasons longer and more dangerous.



Risen faster? Have they risen above anything previously seen? Cool

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/how-extreme-weather-in-europe-...
oh noes the alarmists again.

From Our World in Data-

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https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/image-59.png[

From AI: "The hottest temperature ever recorded in France is 46.0 °C (114.8 °F), which occurred in Verargues, Hérault, on June 28, 2019. Additionally, Paris experienced its highest temperature of 41.9 °C (107.4 °F) on July 25, 2019."

Perhaps you should look at data. Cool
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Reply #10 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 2:50pm
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_Up_With_That%3F

Watts's blog has been criticised for inaccuracy. The Guardian columnist George Monbiot described WUWT as "highly partisan and untrustworthy".[28] Leo Hickman, at The Guardian's Environment Blog, also criticised Watts's blog, stating that Watts "risks polluting his legitimate scepticism about the scientific processes and methodologies underpinning climate science with his accompanying politicised commentary."




Denialism is a psychological and social phenomenon where people reject clear, overwhelming evidence and refuse to accept established facts. People often use it as a defence mechanism to cope with stress, fear, or a reality that feels too painful or difficult to accept.

Seek help Lee.
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Reply #11 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 3:02pm
 
Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 29th, 2026 at 2:50pm:
Watts's blog has been criticised for inaccuracy. The Guardian columnist George Monbiot described WUWT as "highly partisan and untrustworthy".[28] Leo Hickman, at The Guardian's Environment Blog, also criticised Watts's blog, stating that Watts "risks polluting his legitimate scepticism about the scientific processes and methodologies underpinning climate science with his accompanying politicised commentary."



Poor petal. Wiki is not a science blog, and the screenshots are from  Our World in Data.  You really shouldn't rely on Wiki. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-area-burnt-by-wildfires-by-week?co...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-area-burnt-by-wildfires-by-week?co...

The maps are interactive - that's why it was easier to use Watts.


[quote author=Ai_Took_Our_Jobs lin

k=1785224978/10#10 date=1785300638]Denialism is a psychological and social phenomenon where people reject clear, overwhelming evidence and refuse to accept established facts. People often use it as a defence mechanism to cope with stress, fear, or a reality that feels too painful or difficult to accept.
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Denialsim isn't even in the language of science., you need help.
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Reply #12 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 3:20pm
 
I'm betting all the illegal scum in Europe are starting the fires with environmental terrorism, just like they did in LA.
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Reply #13 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 3:27pm
 
France has arrested 162 people in connection with suspected wildfire arson since July 6 as the country battles an unprecedented wildfire season, Interior Minister Sebastien Lecornu said Monday.

"Since July 6, 162 arrests have already taken place," Lecornu said through the US social media company X.

He added that "security forces are fully mobilized to identify arsonists. They will be found, arrested, and held accountable for their actions before the courts."

The minister said France has already recorded 13,566 wildfires or fire starts since the beginning of the year, with 116,085 hectares (286,872 acres) burned, surpassing the previous record of 72,000 hectares (177,915 acres) in 2022.

Lecornu said nine out of 10 wildfires are caused by human activity, with most resulting from negligence such as discarded cigarette butts, barbecues, or construction work carried out without proper precautions.

He urged the public to take preventive measures, including postponing construction work in high-risk conditions, clearing vegetation around properties, and avoiding smoking near dry vegetation.

The minister also said some fires had been deliberately set, stressing that arson is a criminal offence punishable by up to 15 years in prison under French law.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/france-reports-162-arrests-over-suspected-wildfi...



Looks like Jasin would lose his cash.
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Reply #14 - Jul 29th, 2026 at 3:33pm
 
The illegals in LA started the fires via their nightly drum bin fires where the embers blew far. Sadly, Hollywood, who helped all the illegals in, didn't burn as was hoped for.
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