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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25585 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Pride parade attack Berlin Reply #30 - Jul 27^th, 2026 at 10:58pm It is like watching a pendulum swinging, but a lot more annoying, that gif of yours, Bobby.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121061 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Pride parade attack Berlin Reply #31 - Jul 27^th, 2026 at 11:26pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 10:58pm: It is like watching a pendulum swinging, but a lot more annoying, that gif of yours, Bobby. It's funny.
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Re: Pride parade attack Berlin
Reply #32 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 7:14am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 10:27pm:

Kind of weird that Berlin needs to host gay pride parades. Did gay pride parades not go out of fashion in the 1990s?

While Paris is up to the minute with the trends....

A man has been arrested after he allegedly attacked and wounded three women in Paris with two kitchen knives, a minister and police said.

The identity of the suspect and his motive were not immediately clear, but local media reports he claimed to have been sent by Allah to kill women.

Three women aged 19, 24 and 36 were taken to hospital after the assault at around 11.30am local time (12am AEST) in the Porte de Clichy area in the north of the capital, Interior Minister Laurent Nunez and Paris police said.

"It is Allah who commanded me," the man lying on the floor says.
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The motive for the attack remains unknown, Nunez said.

Yea, right. What COULD be the motive??

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Re: Pride parade attack Berlin
Reply #33 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 8:32am

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:09pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Attempting to garnish racial political points from the death/injuries of others ... a very hard right thing to do.

Not all Muslims are radical. Not all radicals are Muslim.

Nothing to do with religion then?

One young radical person enacting violence in the name of a terror group has zero to do with a religion millions of people practice peacefully.

Yes. The difference is that modern Radical Muslims attack Israel and USA now.
While the rest of them are conservative in their genocide Jihad against Christian Europe like they have done for centuries and want France to burn like a Notre Dame cathedral and become their Messiah to die for their Muslim sins.
...because what the Germans did to the Jews, the Muslims will do to the French.

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Re: Pride parade attack Berlin
Reply #34 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 1:51pm

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

#01 Attempting to garnish racial political points from the death/injuries of others ... a very hard right thing to do.

#02 Not all Muslims are radical.

Not all radicals are Muslim.

#01 TRUTH Being a follower of ISLAM.......is not a racial descriptor.

#02 TRUTH Every moslem......is a follower of ISLAM.

So, if every moslem......is a follower of ISLAM,
what are the religious tenets
which every follower of ISLAM lives by ?

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Yadda said......
Quote:

ISLAM, in its foundational religious text [the Koran]
promotes hatred of ALL non-moslems,
AS ISLAMS PRIMARY RELIGIOUS PRECEPT.

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1456222758/253#253
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A moslem, is a person who chooses [present tense]
to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM],
which teaches them [the moslem]
that it is 'lawful' for them [for every moslem],
to kill those, who do not believe, as they believe.

That is what a moslem is.

A follower of ISLAM.

Dictionary definition;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

And EVERY SINGLE PERSON who says;

"I am a moslem."
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...is a person who has chosen to embrace ISLAM
and to embrace its tenets and its laws.

The Shahadah is the ISLAMIC declaration of faith [so as to become a moslem].

To become a moslem the Shahada must be openly declared, by 100% of those who [now] self-identify, as followers of ISLAM.

Yadda said....
Quote:

Dictionary definition;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

WWW search....
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be compelled to believe something, which is incredible;

"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].

But i don't follow that part of my faith.

HONEST!"

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.

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For an individual >> who calls himself a moslem, <<
the act, of lying to a disbeliever [i.e. 'the enemy of Allah'],
is a religiously directed, and a religiously sanctioned,
religious doctrine.

Dictionary;
sanction2 = = official permission or approval for an action.

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Taqiyya

“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives.

If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it.
When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.
...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

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Re: Pride parade attack Berlin
Reply #35 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 1:59pm

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:52pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:31pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:09pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Attempting to garnish racial political points from the death/injuries of others ... a very hard right thing to do.

Not all Muslims are radical. Not all radicals are Muslim.

Nothing to do with religion then?

One young radical person enacting violence in the name of a terror group has zero to do with a religion millions of people practice peacefully.

It does if he is the founder of the religion.

Prophet Muhammad, functioned as both a spiritual and a political-military leader. Is this what you are implying?

He was a mass murderer. He practiced rape and pillage, and wrote it into the religion. The link between that and all the violence committed by modern Muslims in the name of Islam is not some unfathomable mystery that we must fear solving in case we offend someone.

If Hitler had won WWII and the world was run by Nazis, would you be busy apologising for Nazis and insisting there was no link and between Nazism and gas chambers?

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33654 Gender:	Re: Pride parade attack Berlin Reply #36 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 2:04pm Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:02pm: Attempting to garnish racial political points from the death/injuries of others ... a very hard right thing to do. Not all Muslims are radical. Not all radicals are Muslim. Yet the non radicals rarely speak out about the radicals. Why is that you think?
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Re: Pride parade attack Berlin
Reply #37 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 3:07pm

Frank wrote on Jul 28^th, 2026 at 7:14am:

While Paris is up to the minute with the trends....

A man has been arrested after he allegedly attacked and wounded three women in Paris with two kitchen knives, a minister and police said.

The identity of the suspect and his motive were not immediately clear, but local media reports he claimed to have been sent by Allah to kill women.

Three women aged 19, 24 and 36 were taken to hospital after the assault at around 11.30am local time (12am AEST) in the Porte de Clichy area in the north of the capital, Interior Minister Laurent Nunez and Paris police said.

"It is Allah who commanded me," the man lying on the floor says.
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The motive for the attack remains unknown, Nunez said.

Yea, right. What COULD be the motive??

YES.....
YET ANOTHER 'RANDOM' MURDEROUS ATTACK,
BY A FOLLOWER OF ISLAM [IN FRANCE].

.......AND YET, E V E R Y O N E*** CONTINUES TO PRETEND
THAT NO-ONE KNOWS WHAT IS MOTIVATING
THESE 'RANDOM', 'ISOLATED', VIOLENT ATTACKERS.

VIOLENT ATTACKS BEING PERPETRATED BY PERSONS
WHO WILL OFTEN CLAIM,
THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM,
AND ARE ACTING ON ITS [ISLAM's] BEHALF.

***
....LAWMAKERS, and those in civil authority.

ISLAMIC law texts [below]
clearly outline an authority to MURDER.

Real, mainstream >> ISLAMIC law <<
......gives LAWFUL AUTHORITY,
to the devout moslem,
TO KILL ANY DISBELIEVER,
who rejects the PRIMACY of ISLAMIC law.

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.

"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....
his blood may legally be spilled."

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ISLAMIC religious texts make violence against disbelievers.....
a LAWFUL [virtuous] act.

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Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062

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The followers of ISLAM, who are living here, in Australia, in 2026,
know exactly what they are doing.

Yadda said3....
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582638136/0#0

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1570367530/2#2

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/1#1

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JIHAD WATCH
https://www.jihadwatch.org/

https://jihadwatch.org/category/germany

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/jihadist-intimidation-and-thuggery

https://www.jihadwatch.org/category/sharia

PLUS.......
TheReligionofPeace
[lots of updated information on ISLAMIC violence worldwide]
https://thereligionofpeace.com/

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Pride parade attack Berlin
Reply #38 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 3:11pm

A CAUTION TO READERS OF MY POST.....Reply #37 [above]

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8
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Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal.

We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law.

Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve.

Moslems want to destroy the efficacy of all [non-ISLAMIC] civic institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society.

SUGGESTION;
If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia.

Act within the law.

Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #39 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 4:23pm

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He was a mass murderer. He practiced rape and pillage, and wrote it into the religion. The link between that and all the violence committed by modern Muslims in the name of Islam is not some unfathomable mystery that we must fear solving in case we offend someone.

Many mainstream Islamic scholars and historians argue that violent verses and historical episodes were specific to 7th-century wartime conditions.

They emphasise that classical jurisprudence established strict rules of engagement that forbade the targeting of innocents, women, and children.

Moderate and reformist voices maintain that modern extremists misinterpret and hijack historical texts to serve political agendas.

They view the vast majority of global Muslims as practicing a peaceful faith that rejects terrorism.

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If Hitler had won WWII and the world was run by Nazis, would you be busy apologising for Nazis and insisting there was no link and between Nazism and gas chambers?

I'm not apologising for Muslims, I'm engaging discussion with Islamophobes, in an attempted to understand their unfounded dread, intense dislike, or prejudice.

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Reply #40 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 5:11pm

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28^th, 2026 at 4:23pm:

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He was a mass murderer. He practiced rape and pillage, and wrote it into the religion. The link between that and all the violence committed by modern Muslims in the name of Islam is not some unfathomable mystery that we must fear solving in case we offend someone.

Many mainstream Islamic scholars and historians argue that violent verses and historical episodes were specific to 7th-century wartime conditions.

Have you read them yourself? On what basis do you label those scholars mainstream? Mainstream by western standard standards, or mainstream by Islamic standards?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469837313

This is not a "historical episode". There is no reference to historical context at all, in the entire chapter. Only to killing non-Muslims.

Is modern warfare any different to 7th century warfare?

What about slavery and rape?

Can you quote an Islamic scholar saying that slavery is inherently wrong? Or rape? Or killing non-Muslims? Or killing apostates?

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Reply #41 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 5:31pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 28^th, 2026 at 2:04pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 27^th, 2026 at 8:02pm:

Attempting to garnish racial political points from the death/injuries of others ... a very hard right thing to do.

Not all Muslims are radical. Not all radicals are Muslim.

Yet the non radicals rarely speak out about the radicals.

Why is that you think?

You have selected hearing ?

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Reply #42 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 5:37pm

freediver wrote on Jul 28^th, 2026 at 5:11pm:

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28^th, 2026 at 4:23pm:

Quote:

He was a mass murderer. He practiced rape and pillage, and wrote it into the religion. The link between that and all the violence committed by modern Muslims in the name of Islam is not some unfathomable mystery that we must fear solving in case we offend someone.

Many mainstream Islamic scholars and historians argue that violent verses and historical episodes were specific to 7th-century wartime conditions.

Have you read them yourself? On what basis do you label those scholars mainstream? Mainstream by western standard standards, or mainstream by Islamic standards?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469837313

This is not a "historical episode". There is no reference to historical context at all, in the entire chapter. Only to killing non-Muslims.

Is modern warfare any different to 7th century warfare?

What about slavery and rape?

Can you quote an Islamic scholar saying that slavery is inherently wrong? Or rape? Or killing non-Muslims? Or killing apostates?

You don't see yourself as coming off as kooky ?
Careful, you are heading the way of Yadda.
Ignoring debate, going off half cocked.

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Reply #43 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 5:45pm

Ai_Killed_Humanity wrote on Jul 28^th, 2026 at 4:23pm:

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He was a mass murderer.

He practiced rape and pillage, and wrote it into the religion....

Many mainstream Islamic scholars and historians argue that violent verses and historical episodes were specific to 7th-century wartime conditions.

They emphasise that
classical jurisprudence established strict rules of engagement
that forbade the targeting of innocents, women, and children.

Moderate and reformist voices maintain that modern extremists misinterpret and hijack historical texts to serve political agendas.

They view the vast majority of global Muslims as practicing a peaceful faith that rejects terrorism.

Total B.S.

Disprovable from examining, the intent revealed within ISLAMIC religious texts.

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In this thread Ai_Killed_Humanity/Ai_Took_Our_Jobs
has been asserting 'facts',
which are demonstrably FALSE.

Q.
Why would Ai_Killed_Humanity do that ?

[....i.e. imo, he is behaving like an ISLAMIC apologist.]

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251160915/0#0
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Quote:

.......Islam specifically forbids killing of non-combatants.
Muhammad (pbuh) clearly forbade it in his sayings.

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Those words, are yet another deception, from another moslem.

How so?

.....
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The important questions we all should ask here are,

Q1.
For what reason, if it does, does ISLAM specifically forbid the killing of non-combatants?

Q2.
And, is this 'prohibition' [genuinely] because ISLAM is concerned about the 'welfare' of non-combatants? [...as is being portrayed]

Reading ISLAMIC texts selectively, i.e. reading [only] verses presented to us by good moslems, the texts may suggest such a commendable attitude by moslem combatants, towards non-combatants.

E.G.....

The Hadith declare,

"During some of the Ghazawat of the Prophet a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle disapproved the killing of women and children."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...

AND,

"During some of the Ghazawat of Allah's Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children."

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...

On the face of it, "...Allah's Apostle forbade the killing of women and children."

But those verses do not infer, or reveal, the motive/reason
, for that 'prohibition'.

I suggest that we should seek out those motives!

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For some deeper understanding of
this whole issue [the 'welfare' of non-combatants],
let us read some further Hadith verses, related to this issue,

"The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." "

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...

Here, clearly, Mohammed expressed no care, whatsoever, for the 'welfare', or safety, of those non-combatants [women and children, who were non-moslems].

So, how can we resolve these seemingly inconsistent positions, from different Hadith verses?

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I will suggest that the 'care' Mohammed expressed for the 'welfare' of non-combatants [who were non-moslems], was a 'care' extended for the purpose of, and related specifically to,
their material worth [ALIVE] as booty
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i.e.
Dead non-moslem, non-combatants [women and children] are, war booty, ....LOST.

A further verse in the Hadith, makes clear the fate of [women and children] 'non-combatants', after the wholesale surrender of a particular community, which Mohammed and his henchmen besieged,

"......Sa'd said, "So I give my judgment that their warriors should be killed and their women and children should be taken as captives." [i.e. war booty] The Prophet said, "You have judged according to the King's (Allah's) judgment." "

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith...

N.B. And this was no community [full] of 'warriors', as is suggested above.

This was a [wealthy] Jewish community of, mostly, metal workers, artisans, and goldsmiths.

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Reply #44 - Jul 28^th, 2026 at 5:59pm

Islamic apologists engage in systematic, reasoned discourse to defend Islamic doctrines, practices, and core beliefs against external criticisms, resolve internal doubts, and promote the faith using philosophical, historical, and textual arguments.

Looks like a big miss Yadda.

I'm shining a light on your's and other's Islamophobia i.e fear, prejudice, hatred, or discrimination directed against Islam and Muslims. It treats Islam as a monolithic, threatening block rather than a diverse global faith.

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