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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56955 Gender:	Re: Problems of the West today.. Reply #30 - Jul 18^th, 2026 at 10:01pm The only problem I see is those who cant tell the difference between the Southern European archaic Westernism and the Western European modernising Westernism that created the Commonwealth of Nations. One day, Australia must face up to big scary Archaic Westernism USA and say "NO!"
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Reply #31 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 12:43pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 18^th, 2026 at 10:01pm:

The only problem I see is those who cant tell the difference between the Southern European archaic Westernism and the Western European modernising Westernism that created the Commonwealth of Nations.

One day, Australia must face up to big scary Archaic Westernism USA and say "NO!" Angry

If Cicilia has a point to show history - it is that popular movements are far too often taken over by the very forces they seek to bring to equality.. remember what I told you about the Mafia and its beginnings... then look at - for example - the 'party of the people' here and now.

All the things they once railed against they now are in total... the elitists, the supremacists, the dictating fascists, the money grubbers, the control freaks, the reverse of that coin being terrified little men and women, the designers of strait jackets of real oppression for the many to suit ideology, the 'realpolitik' adherents wherein any end justifies every means at whim, the 'intellectual nazis', those developing neo-Feudalism to suit themselves ... you name it.

Labor after they threw U out of it...

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Reply #32 - Jul 20^th, 2026 at 6:21pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 30^th, 2026 at 7:28pm:

Here we go again, people... on ACA right now is a program about Indonesian foreigners posting on multiple sites about Australian politics, and literally 'rage baiting' people by posting things to - well - enrage them. Much of it is directed either at or for Hanson and ON, or superficially against Islam and some of its manifestations such as burka wearing.. I say superficially because while most non-Muslims likely are not really responding to that - clearly Muslims may feel offended and angry and 'under attack' - thus provoking them to insurrection and public troublemaking.

What and who is exactly behind this remains open - for now:-

So again:-

"The author wrote about her time inside Facebook's highest administration – and this was specifically about the Trump first campaign – but has ramifications worldwide:-

“microtargeted users and tweaked ads for maximum engagement, using data tools we (Facebook) designed for commercial advertisers“

“amassed a database named Project Alamo, of over 220 million people in America“

“charted all sorts of online and offline behaviour, including gun registration, voter registration, credit card and shopping histories, what websites they visit, what car they drive, where they live, and the last time they voted“

“had tens of thousands of ads in play, millions of different ad variations by the time they were done. These ads were tested using Facebook's Brand Lift surveys“

“this was self-funding , since the 'data targeting' enabled the campaign to 'raise millions each month in campaign contributions“ ..................

Now, people – I don't know what most of you think – but for those of you wondering why exactly all these harpies and other clearly psychotic types (online at least) post their endless array of inflammatory posts and such – you don't need to look very far.

Facebook PAYS them to stir up discussion so it can monitor the responses and micro-target advertising at the individual level – which pays all the bills to the tune of mega-billions.

The DANGER in this ....... is that certain political parties and movements are doing the very same – posting stuff daily to trigger responses (just like this article right here) – so that they can exploit the same INCOME generated from 'leads' handed to Facebook!!!

Now maybe you think there's nothing wrong with a few internet psychopathic dudes earning a few 'legitimate' dollars in this way... but stop and think. Once all this data is in the hands of the mother company,the same megadata approach can instantly be changed into one massive oversight at the individual level by ANY government of any kind ... domestic or foreign.

You may literally be funding, by responding to this tripe, an organisation bent on destroying you and your culture and dominating the world.

If that doesn't scare you – nothing will."

Not just social media political forums Graps

I'm on a crabbing & a fishing forum ... & all these Indonesians - men & women - are copying & pasting other peoples content - old & new - claiming it as their own or using it to try & stir shyte.

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Reply #33 - Jul 20^th, 2026 at 6:24pm

Frank wrote on Jul 14^th, 2026 at 12:29pm:

America, (and the West) we have a problem. Our best and our brightest, the descendants of our intelligentsia and our professional managerial class, have gone full Commie-terrorist-insane. And they ain’t ever coming back.

Just look at the trajectory of 22-year-old activist Calla Walsh. In just a few short years, she has gone from earnest high-school Democrat, volunteering for Massachusetts establishment politicians Elizabeth Warren and Ed Markey, to Democratic Socialist of America organiser to… talking head for the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Wait, what? That escalated quickly.

Last week, Ms Walsh was in Iran for the days-long state funeral of the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Speaking to Iranian state media ahead of the funeral, she called the deceased despot the ‘greatest anti-imperialist leader’ of her lifetime. ‘He was a leader to all people of the world who struggle against imperialism, arrogance, against Zionism, against genocide’, she told Press TV.

Walsh has certainly been on a journey. She grew up in Cambridge, Massachusetts. The daughter of a Boston University English professor and a Harvard writing teacher, she enjoyed a super-privileged upbringing, complete with an education at two elite Boston preparatory schools.

Her background has certainly not bred any great love of America. Today, she jets between her home in Beirut and Tehran, giving rabidly anti-Western hot takes to Iranian state media and chanting Death to America in Farsi. And she does all this while wearing the mandatory headscarf.
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Bet she's not game to go home to visit Mum & Dad? Grin

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Reply #34 - Jul 20^th, 2026 at 6:26pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jul 14^th, 2026 at 1:32pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 14^th, 2026 at 12:29pm:

America, (and the West) we have a problem. Our best and our brightest, the descendants of our intelligentsia and our professional managerial class, have gone full Commie-terrorist-insane. And they ain’t ever coming back.

"It's the economy, stupid".

The "West" was fine after WW2 when Keynesian 'welfare state' economics ensured a job and housing for everyone.

But Thatcher and Reagan-induced Neoclassical orthodoxy, concurrent with the rise of Asia, wrecked the Western economies.

Now even China is slowing down.....so much for "communism".....

Time to revive Keynesian deficit spending , or better yet, government funding via free fiat money issuance (to fund government), with inflation avoided by balancing supply and demand for resources (not money) in the macroeconmy.

You're just a cracked record of waffling bullshyte.

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Reply #35 - Jul 20^th, 2026 at 11:00pm

Gnads wrote on Jul 20^th, 2026 at 6:21pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 30^th, 2026 at 7:28pm:

Here we go again, people... on ACA right now is a program about Indonesian foreigners posting on multiple sites about Australian politics, and literally 'rage baiting' people by posting things to - well - enrage them. Much of it is directed either at or for Hanson and ON, or superficially against Islam and some of its manifestations such as burka wearing.. I say superficially because while most non-Muslims likely are not really responding to that - clearly Muslims may feel offended and angry and 'under attack' - thus provoking them to insurrection and public troublemaking.

What and who is exactly behind this remains open - for now:-

So again:-

"The author wrote about her time inside Facebook's highest administration – and this was specifically about the Trump first campaign – but has ramifications worldwide:-

“microtargeted users and tweaked ads for maximum engagement, using data tools we (Facebook) designed for commercial advertisers“

“amassed a database named Project Alamo, of over 220 million people in America“

“charted all sorts of online and offline behaviour, including gun registration, voter registration, credit card and shopping histories, what websites they visit, what car they drive, where they live, and the last time they voted“

“had tens of thousands of ads in play, millions of different ad variations by the time they were done. These ads were tested using Facebook's Brand Lift surveys“

“this was self-funding , since the 'data targeting' enabled the campaign to 'raise millions each month in campaign contributions“ ..................

Now, people – I don't know what most of you think – but for those of you wondering why exactly all these harpies and other clearly psychotic types (online at least) post their endless array of inflammatory posts and such – you don't need to look very far.

Facebook PAYS them to stir up discussion so it can monitor the responses and micro-target advertising at the individual level – which pays all the bills to the tune of mega-billions.

The DANGER in this ....... is that certain political parties and movements are doing the very same – posting stuff daily to trigger responses (just like this article right here) – so that they can exploit the same INCOME generated from 'leads' handed to Facebook!!!

Now maybe you think there's nothing wrong with a few internet psychopathic dudes earning a few 'legitimate' dollars in this way... but stop and think. Once all this data is in the hands of the mother company,the same megadata approach can instantly be changed into one massive oversight at the individual level by ANY government of any kind ... domestic or foreign.

You may literally be funding, by responding to this tripe, an organisation bent on destroying you and your culture and dominating the world.

If that doesn't scare you – nothing will."

Not just social media political forums Graps

I'm on a crabbing & a fishing forum ... & all these Indonesians - men & women - are copying & pasting other peoples content - old & new - claiming it as their own or using it to try & stir shyte.

Softening us up by dividing the nation even more - before invading? Or at the very least trying to pervert this country into some Islamic republic or something?

This country has never been more divided than right now - and our government is actively promoting this...

I'll have to look into this.

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Reply #36 - Jul 20^th, 2026 at 11:10pm

"A surge of polarizing Facebook groups and anti-immigrant or anti-Muslim rage-baiting in Australia has been traced to Indonesian "buzzers"—organized digital laborers and paid election influencers operating an underground, hidden influence industry.The Indonesian "Buzzer" PhenomenonThe Operators: Research highlighted by experts like Australian National University (ANU) disinformation researcher Ross Tapsell reveals that large Facebook pages supporting Australian political figures (such as Pauline Hanson’s One Nation) are managed entirely by administrators based in Indonesia.The Method: "Buzzers" are digital workers typically hired for financial gain to artificially turbocharge online engagement, inflate follower metrics, and push specific divisive narratives into Western social media feeds.The Content: These accounts frequently post inflammatory or contradictory material—such as anti-Muslim rhetoric or strict anti-immigration stances—using fabricated personas (e.g., profile pictures of local women in hijabs) designed specifically to provoke outraged comments and maximize algorithmic distribution.

Political Influence Operations: Experts note this marks a notable instance where commercial or politically motivated Indonesian click-farms and influence-for-hire networks have bled into domestic Australian political discourse.Monetization and Engagement Farming: Beyond direct political contracting, many of these foreign accounts use provocative, stolen, or AI-generated rage-bait to game platform algorithms, increase visibility, and cash in on the "outage economy" or prepare accounts for resale."

Thus spoke AIthustra...

The questions we need to be asking ourselves is WHY - apart from the clear monetary gain I've laid out from Facebook to create meta data in order to provide marketing opportunities etc.... remember what I posted about Trump's election - now - let me be clear - personally I see Trump as someone who is doing things... he has quirks, but he has a handle on the ropes... so my position is not from any opposition to Trump at this time.... what I refer to is the amazing access to data on individuals - something that can be perverted to any use at all.

Having responded to Facebook things - I have received advertising clearly targeting me by actual age etc... T-shirts and hoodies I can buy for my daughter or grand-daughters that even say the month I was born... "My dad is a Gemini born in June - he has anger management problems - etc."

All this is instantly available to ANYONE who claims to be a business wanting to advertise.... and is clearly instantly available to anyone who wishes to gain all that data on a vast number of people- for ANY purpose, Morbeus......

How many times must I warn about these things... this IS relevant.

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Reply #37 - Jul 21^st, 2026 at 12:48am

P.S. to below:-

I'm currently reading Chapman Pincher's 'Treachery' - about M.I.5 and its clear failures over sixty years - principally over the 'atom spies' etc .... you know the ones - and including its abject failure to identify the Infamous Four.... Philby, Burgess, Maclean and Blunt - not to mention Red Sonia recently lauded in a film starring Dame Judi Dench .... and even though I have written to the security service about this issue of AI being a clear and present danger in its ability to accumulate vast arrays of data on countless individuals.... they seem to be as asleep at the wheel as M.I.5 were over many things.... either that or they plan to benefit from this data themselves....

The lady internet etc commissioner will not have any balls to begin to deal with all this data accumulation.... no funding, just a nice little earner for doing not much... and even less motivation to rock the boat.

Makes ME wonder if those in charge up there are actually for Australia etc.... or are just lackeys of the government in place - bad as it is - or even some foreign entity ... or they have someone in place who is sabotaging things.... another 'Elli' ... with this government today, I would be suspicious of their captain's call for head .... who guarded that guard while that guard was appointed to guard you?

When I was interviewed ... there was one other person there... he was young and ethnic kind of... I can see the values.... young ethnos can have some 'inside' understanding of specific cultures .... but are also a security risk.... something proven time and again in public service... and they don't want old bastards these days... they may know too much and may rock some boats...

Once the veil is drawn aside and the murk within revealed - anything is possible... eyes open, people ...

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