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Reply #15 - Jul 16^th, 2026 at 6:32pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15^th, 2026 at 7:53pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2026 at 6:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap.

I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it.

But horses do damage fragile ecosystems.

Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention.

But it should be humane

I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment.

Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding...

Wild horses, camels and donkeys have one important thing in common, they drink water and in drought conditions they travel to get a drink, they will drink small water holes dry and the small native animals that live around there, and who can’t travel long distances, die as a consequence.
Wild horses are a feral introduced pest and should not only be culled but exterminated.
The do gooders never gave a damn about the killing of rabbits by mixo and the prolonged suffering before death or the rare recovery from it.

Irrelevant clap trap.

Camels have one advantage over horses & donkeys - they can go without water for much longer.

That's why camels survive where horses & donkeys don't.

Unlike horses & donkeys Camels are soft footed ungulates.

You of all people should know that. Roll Eyes

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Reply #16 - Jul 16^th, 2026 at 7:11pm

So how often have the Snowies water holes run dry?

"The Snowy River or its associated montane river system has never entirely dried up, but diversions for the Snowy Mountains Hydro-electric Scheme reduced flows significantly. Below Jindabyne Dam, the Snowy River’s flow was reduced to just 1% to 21% of its natural volume, transforming some sections into a chain of stagnant pools."

It seems humans are more of a danger to the natives than horses or even deer and pigs. Now add in the horrendous damage from all those Planet of The Apes scarecrows on the hills and all the access roads and such...

"National Scale Estimates: Opposing groups and think-tanks suggest that to reach 100% renewable generation through onshore wind, tens of millions of hectares could theoretically be impacted across Australia, though much of this overlaps with existing agricultural land rather than untouched forests.Site-Specific Impacts: Individual projects require large footprints. For example, a single turbine pad and its associated heavy-duty access roads typically require around 2 hectares of clearing."

All these references are from AI - me lazy - so take it with a grain of salt.. GIGO. Imagine that if a wind tower is isolated - tht footprint of access road will multiply .... one report said it would clear the size of Victoria... The Beef Wellington State.

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Reply #17 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 9:35am

Gnads wrote on Jul 16^th, 2026 at 6:32pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jul 15^th, 2026 at 7:53pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 28^th, 2026 at 6:27pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap.

I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it.

But horses do damage fragile ecosystems.

Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention.

But it should be humane

I don't think there's an example of wild horses actually destroying a fragile environment... the Planet Of The Apes scarecrows called wind generators and the trails they need to even exist is destroying many thousands of hectares of natural environment.

Got me eye on a property - no money though - near the Range up northern NSW there - plan is for a Sanctuary for brumbies and wildlife, and veterans in trouble and good people in trouble... hour or two from your holding...

Wild horses, camels and donkeys have one important thing in common, they drink water and in drought conditions they travel to get a drink, they will drink small water holes dry and the small native animals that live around there, and who can’t travel long distances, die as a consequence.
Wild horses are a feral introduced pest and should not only be culled but exterminated.
The do gooders never gave a damn about the killing of rabbits by mixo and the prolonged suffering before death or the rare recovery from it.

Irrelevant clap trap.

Camels have one advantage over horses & donkeys - they can go without water for much longer.

That's why camels survive where horses & donkeys don't.

Unlike horses & donkeys Camels are soft footed ungulates.

You of all people should know that. Roll Eyes

Irrelevant clap trap?
What has the hooves got to do with drinking the water holes dry?
And why should one feral animal that does damage be treated differently to another?
While we’re at it, feral deer should also be eradicated and not protected.

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Reply #18 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:18am

When our Civilisation finally collapses, the peasants will need some way to get to town so good for horses, and something to eat... so deer and pigs are not such a bad thing. The damage you speak of is localised and rare and nature repairs itself well..... it's not as if they are trampling the earth into dust or something..

Humans definitely cause far more damage than any wild animal.

Did you see the video made by a Snowies bloke - horse rider - where the track made by horses through the bush had acted as a fire break? Burnt black on one side - green on the other. And the track was only a couple of feet wide..

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Reply #19 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:31am

Quote:

It lies beyond the Western Pines
Towards the sinking sun,
And not a survey mark defines
The bounds of "Brumby's Run".

On odds and ends of mountain land,
On tracks of range and rock
Where no one else can make a stand,
Old Brumby rears his stock.

A wild, unhandled lot they are
Of every shape and breed.
They venture out 'neath moon and star
Along the flats to feed;

But when the dawn makes pink the sky
And steals along the plain,
The Brumby horses turn and fly
Towards the hills again.

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Reply #20 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:07pm

Horses have a place in the environment - they eat the dry, coarse grasses that are highly flammable... and thus protect native wildlife not so mobile from fires....

Purely on my own superficial consideration - I can see no validity to any idea that the wild horses are destroying habitats... they stick to trails well worn, they clearly don't drink all the water, they don't eat the best feed, they don't trample frogs, any impact they have on creek banks is when those are very wet and muddy anyway and it's not like they are changing the water flows or anything - humans have far greater impact on native species and especially water flows than any other beast - what horse imported a foreign weed or illness?

Far lap of the slug, boys - this ideological stance is unrealistic.

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Reply #21 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 6:18pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 25^th, 2026 at 4:19pm:

Complex issue grap.

I don't support gut shooting a horse and letting it die over 3 days as it's starving foal stands next to it.

But horses do damage fragile ecosystems.

Feral donkeys and camels in the centre of australia would also need attention.

But it should be humane

Aerial culling has numerous rules must be double tapped with a .308

Heart and lung shots are preferred if they get it on target both lungs and heart are taken out with single shot double tapping makes sure.

Spotter in Chopper has to confirm kill.

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Reply #22 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:12pm

If it’s so effective where is the evidence?

Am I just supposed to “ trust “ what a politician says because that’s never going to happen.

The simple fact is that there are several other options then shooting from a helicopter but the Minns government has simply chosen the cheapest and cruelest way.

The politicians need to save taxpayers money otherwise they won’t have enough to enjoy the taxpayer funded piss ups with taxpayer paid for limousines!

Save the brumbies- shoot the politicians instead!!

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Reply #23 - Jul 17^th, 2026 at 11:05pm

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:12pm:

If it’s so effective where is the evidence?

Am I just supposed to “ trust “ what a politician says because that’s never going to happen.

The simple fact is that there are several other options then shooting from a helicopter but the Minns government has simply chosen the cheapest and cruelest way.

The politicians need to save taxpayers money otherwise they won’t have enough to enjoy the taxpayer funded piss ups with taxpayer paid for limousines!

Save the brumbies- shoot the politicians instead!!

I'm waiting for the videos from bush walkers and riders now that Massacre Park has been re-opened to the public... already there have been videos of horses gut shot and shot in the back and left to die... now the focus of the pro-massacre brigade has shifted to saying that looking into this, people only get pro-horse people... well - sitting in the local pub - which I doubt any of these characters can do with impunity in the Snowies Region - which group would YOU drink with?

The anti-massacre horse lovers or the killers?

The figure or eight million has been raised - how much would building some pen fields - not just pens where they exist on grass-less ground and eat only non-natural foods and drink out of prescribed water troughs ... and then rounding up the animals have cost?

People are doing it off their own bat and transporting brumbies to safe havens.... so how much does a government need to follow a similar program?

Split the states up again and take the power from Capital City... I'd split South East into two - North and South Snowfallia or something... I doubt South Snowfallia would vote to kill the horses.

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Reply #24 - Jul 18^th, 2026 at 12:32am

Back in the day before when there was more workers than public servants younger men used to drive the brumbies down from the high country and then break them in and sell them at a decent price.

Now we have national parks and wildfires on huge taxpayer funded wages in charge.

Oh well, for every dead brumbies the foxes can eat and breed up.

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Reply #25 - Jul 18^th, 2026 at 9:13am

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 18^th, 2026 at 12:32am:

Back in the day before when there was more workers than public servants younger men used to drive the brumbies down from the high country and then break them in and sell them at a decent price.

Now we have national parks and wildfires on huge taxpayer funded wages in charge.

Oh well, for every dead brumbies the foxes can eat and breed up.

Foxes - forgot about those... surely this invasive species group is kidding.. they'd kill more wildlife than anything else.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56920 Gender:	Re: Slaughter of Wild Horses Reply #26 - Jul 18^th, 2026 at 6:44pm Cull every WILD Brumbie. Every single one! What else is there to do? Bring in Wolves to keep em in check? Slaughter them. Massacre them. Genocide them. Make Australia great again.
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Reply #27 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 12:12am

Daves2017 wrote on Jul 17^th, 2026 at 10:12pm:

If it’s so effective where is the evidence?

Am I just supposed to “ trust “ what a politician says because that’s never going to happen.

The simple fact is that there are several other options then shooting from a helicopter but the Minns government has simply chosen the cheapest and cruelest way.

The politicians need to save taxpayers money otherwise they won’t have enough to enjoy the taxpayer funded piss ups with taxpayer paid for limousines!

Save the brumbies- shoot the politicians instead!!

Government run aerial culling like anything the government does is expensive.

Here is a private contractor doing aerial culling using cheaper piston powered chopper instead of turbine powered which government use which doubles the cost.

There is just a pilot and shooter government run requires a spotter to count shots etc which can be done looking back with video footage.1 less person in chopper with private contractor.

Government run requires all animals to be double tapped which doubles ammo cost.

When you get packs of ferals when they start running it's hard to get clean shots with ground shooting they can get out of range pretty quick.

Nobody has any problems with aerial culling of feral pigs if you watch some footage you will see it's very effective.

Aussie made Wedgetail semi auto in .308 government professionals use L1A1 .308 semi auto.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 56920 Gender:	Re: Slaughter of Wild Horses Reply #28 - Jul 19^th, 2026 at 7:56am I bet if they sent in the ADF to shoot em all, it will be another lost War.
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