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Reply #15 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:11pm
 
Is Ayers Rock safe?
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Reply #16 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:27pm
 
First time looking at ON policies ... so many lies !

i.e  ON's denial of human caused climate change :

The longest-running weather collection station in Australia, known as the Nobby’s Weather Station at Newcastle, has shown no pattern of warming since temperature records were collected in 1862.


The claim that Nobby’s Signal Station has shown no warming since 1862 is misleading.  While raw data from the station shows higher temperatures in the late 1800s, climate experts and the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) classify pre-1910 data as unreliable due to the lack of standardized equipment, such as Stevenson screens.

When analysed correctly:

Pre-1910 data is inconsistent: Early readings were often taken with non-standardised thermometers exposed to the elements, creating anomalies rather than reflecting true climate trends.

Post-1910 trend is clear: Reliable records from 1910 onwards show a distinct warming pattern, with average annual maximum temperatures rising from 21.5°C (1910–1950) to 22.1°C (1980–2020) and minimum temperatures increasing from 14.3°C to 14.9°C.

Broader context: This local trend aligns with national data showing Australia has warmed by approximately 1.5°C since 1910, with significant warming occurring since the 1960s.

Experts describe the selective use of uncorrected pre-1910 data to deny global warming as cherry-picking, noting that the station's coastal location also subjects it to local cooling influences like sea breezes that do not represent broader regional climate trends.

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Reply #17 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:28pm
 
tallowood wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:11pm:
Is Ayers Rock safe?



ON wants it's first nuke on the east coast, near a reliable water source, so will be close to a populated area.

Where ON wants it's nuclear radioactive waste stored, who knows. I'm sure Pauline doesn't.
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Reply #18 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 7:07pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:27pm:
i.e  ON's denial of human caused climate change :

The longest-running weather collection station in Australia, known as the Nobby’s Weather Station at Newcastle, has shown no pattern of warming since temperature records were collected in 1862.


The claim that Nobby’s Signal Station has shown no warming since 1862 is misleading.  While raw data from the station shows higher temperatures in the late 1800s, climate experts and the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) classify pre-1910 data as unreliable due to the lack of standardized equipment, such as Stevenson screens.



Yes. What they are saying is you can't rely on older measurements, for no reason other than they were perhaps not taken within a Stevenson Screen. That also means as BOM have reduced the size of the Stephenson Screens you can't rely on the temperatures going back to 1910. That means you can't rely on temperatures at all, especially now that they use digital probes that react quicker than did Liquid-In-Glass thermometers.

And increasing temperatures alone cannot be proof of human cause climate change. it was warmer in the Holocene Optimum without the widespread use of fossil fuels.

BTW - BoM uses homogenisation out to 300 km's from the actual site. And as noted in the report to parliament that homogenisation relies on "expert judgment". Judgment expert or otherwise is not science. Roll Eyes

You are a fraud. Roll Eyes
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Reply #19 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 7:08pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:28pm:
ON wants it's first nuke on the east coast, near a reliable water source, so will be close to a populated area.


So you don't understand nuclear reactors at all. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #20 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:07pm
 
The premise that Australian temperature records since 1910 are unreliable due to Stevenson Screen size changes and sensor technology is unsupported by meteorological science.  While the Australian Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) did reduce the volume of Stevenson Screens to approximately 25% of the original size and switched from slow-response Liquid-In-Glass (LIG) thermometers to fast-response digital probes, these changes are accounted for through peer-reviewed homogenization adjustments.

Stevenson Screen Size Reduction
Volume Change: The BOM reduced the internal volume of Stevenson Screens from approximately 0.23 m³ to 0.06 m³ (a 74% reduction).

Documented Bias: Research indicates this reduction creates a warming bias, increasing average yearly temperatures by 0.54°C and daily maximums by up to 1.7°C on hot, calm days.

Correction: The BOM explicitly states that "explicit corrections have been introduced for a change in instrument screen size" to remove these inhomogeneities from the long-term trend data.
Sensor Technology Transition

Response Time: Modern electronic Multi-Minimum Temperature Sensors (MMTS) react in seconds, whereas LIG thermometers take tens of seconds to stabilize. This allows digital sensors to record short-lived temperature spikes (e.g., from passing thermals or heat radiation) that LIG thermometers would miss.

Data Adjustment: The BOM applies statistical adjustments to historical data to account for the "precision anomaly" between different sensor types, ensuring that the faster response of digital probes does not artificially inflate long-term trends.
Historical Context (Pre-1910)

Exclusion Reasons: Temperatures prior to 1910 are excluded from the official record not primarily due to screen size, but because early thermometers were often exposed on Glaisher Stands or indoors, which introduced a warm bias of approximately 1°C compared to standard Stevenson Screens.
Adjustments: Groups like Berkeley Earth have analysed pre-1910 data, applying corrections for exposure and instrumentation.  Even after these corrections, modern extreme heat events (e.g., 2013) remain significantly warmer than late 19th-century peaks.

Conclusion: While the physical changes to equipment introduced measurable biases, the official Australian temperature record is adjusted to correct for these instrumental changes.  Therefore, the long-term warming trend observed since 1910 is considered reliable by climate scientists, as the data has been homogenized to remove non-climatic artifacts.
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Reply #21 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:07pm
 
The claim that the Holocene was warmer than today is incorrect; current global temperatures are now the warmest they have been in at least 10,000 years, exceeding the warmth of the Holocene Thermal Maximum.  Recent research, including a 2021 study published in Nature, resolves the "Holocene temperature conundrum" by showing that the first half of the Holocene was actually colder than industrial times due to the lingering cooling effects of remnant ice sheets.

Furthermore, scientific evidence confirms that current warming cannot be explained by natural cycles alone for several key reasons:

Rate of Change: Current warming is occurring approximately 10 times faster than the warming that ended the last ice age, a rate unprecedented in the last 1,300 years.

Solar Forcing: Satellite data since 1978 shows that solar energy output has not increased, while temperatures have risen. If the Sun were the cause, the entire atmosphere would be warming; instead, the surface is warming while the stratosphere is cooling, which is the distinct fingerprint of greenhouse gas trapping.

Isotopic Evidence: Scientists can distinguish between natural and fossil-fuel-derived carbon. The atmosphere is accumulating lighter carbon isotopes (depleted in Carbon-14), which proves the excess CO2 comes from ancient organic matter (fossil fuels) rather than natural sources like volcanoes or plants.

Model Consistency: Climate models that include only natural factors (solar, orbital, volcanic) fail to reproduce observed warming. Models only match observed data when human-emitted greenhouse gases are included.

It is "unequivocal" and "incontrovertible" that human activities are the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century, with no natural processes providing an alternate explanation.
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Reply #22 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:07pm
 
The Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) does not use homogenisation out to 300 km; this specific claim originates from critics and skeptics, such as Jennifer Marohasy and Jo Nova, who argue that the BoM’s methods are opaque and rely on distant stations.  The BoM states that homogenisation uses objective statistical tests with reference stations to detect non-climatic discontinuities caused by site moves or instrument changes, particularly when metadata is undocumented.

While critics assert that the process relies on expert judgment and that adjustments are made using stations hundreds of kilometers away, the BoM maintains that its ACORN-SAT dataset uses world best-practice methods.  Independent reviews and peer-reviewed studies have rejected claims that the homogenisation introduces bias or exaggerates warming trends, with the BoM noting that the warming trend is visible in both adjusted and unadjusted data.
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Reply #23 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:11pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 7:08pm:
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:28pm:
ON wants it's first nuke on the east coast, near a reliable water source, so will be close to a populated area.


So you don't understand nuclear reactors at all. Grin Grin Grin Grin




ON doesn't believe in the science supporting human caused climate change.

ON doesn't support Net Zero

ON doesn't back renewables.

Yet ON want to squander billions on nuclear reactor, without the expert workers meaning cost blow outs ... rather than ramping up burning coal.

Follow the money ?

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Reply #24 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:15pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:11pm:
lee wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 7:08pm:
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 6:28pm:
ON wants it's first nuke on the east coast, near a reliable water source, so will be close to a populated area.


So you don't understand nuclear reactors at all. Grin Grin Grin Grin




ON doesn't believe in the science supporting human caused climate change.



They don't believe in climate change at all.

Uneducated, ignorant, white supremacist morons.

The old bag is in her 70s - she won't last long, and the Beetrooter's alcoholism will send him to an early grave.

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Reply #25 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:20pm
 
And the party's run like a dynasty ... pauline's daughter takes over.

Bugger the rank and file of the party getting a vote.
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Reply #26 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:51pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:20pm:
And the party's run like a dynasty ... pauline's daughter takes over.


Two very disturbing things about that.

1. Nepotism.

2. If she has a daughter, that means someone must have had sex with Pauline Hanson.

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Reply #27 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:57pm
 
the family photo :
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Reply #28 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 9:11pm
 
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:57pm:
the family photo :


That's the father, in the middle?
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Reply #29 - Jun 18th, 2026 at 10:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:51pm:
Ai_Took_Our_Jobs wrote on Jun 18th, 2026 at 8:20pm:
And the party's run like a dynasty ... pauline's daughter takes over.


Two very disturbing things about that.

1. Nepotism.

2. If she has a daughter, that means someone must have had sex with Pauline Hanson.

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It’s worked wonderfully as a business model for the Katter clan in Far North QLD.

Where else would they be paid that kinda money plus the perks for doing f all?
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