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Reply #75 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 9:02pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:25pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 6:14pm:

The Great Parrot understands nothing excep that government shpuld just print money to pay for everything.

Everything else is lizzard-brained neocon wizardry.

'Socialist' neocon wizardry - please explain...? Unless you mean neoliberalism is "lizzard brained" - which it is.

As for "printing money", I already said an alternative policy is to tax the rich so government can deliver the essentials for all without taxing average wage earners.

In any case, the same question to you as to the mentally incompetent lee (I see he is still banging on about renewables - as if reversion to private fossil exploitation will solve the current global political malaise):

What government policies will create satisfaction among a sizable majority, which is the topic of this thread - 'Pauline, please explain!'.

You also too mentally incompetent to state some policies which will overcome the current global political malaise, caused by conflicting ideology re 'tax or not to tax'....?

Today's word (like everyday's word) is

MONOMANIAC.

It takes maniacs like you, pal, to distil the world into a single mania.

Because you are hopelessly simple minded, you need the world to make sense through a single lense, the only lense - yours.

You are an idiot. Militantly, monomaniacally so.

Can you generously suggest a non-taxing method, to support Pauline's 'battlers' who are innocently/ignorantly flocking to her in droves?

Then I will cease being a 'militant monomaniac'.

Note: the 'sensible centre' has long since abandoned the "battlers", hence the current global political malaise.

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Reply #76 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 9:23pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 9:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:25pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 6:14pm:

The Great Parrot understands nothing excep that government shpuld just print money to pay for everything.

Everything else is lizzard-brained neocon wizardry.

'Socialist' neocon wizardry - please explain...? Unless you mean neoliberalism is "lizzard brained" - which it is.

As for "printing money", I already said an alternative policy is to tax the rich so government can deliver the essentials for all without taxing average wage earners.

In any case, the same question to you as to the mentally incompetent lee (I see he is still banging on about renewables - as if reversion to private fossil exploitation will solve the current global political malaise):

What government policies will create satisfaction among a sizable majority, which is the topic of this thread - 'Pauline, please explain!'.

You also too mentally incompetent to state some policies which will overcome the current global political malaise, caused by conflicting ideology re 'tax or not to tax'....?

Today's word (like everyday's word) is

MONOMANIAC.

It takes maniacs like you, pal, to distil the world into a single mania.

Because you are hopelessly simple minded, you need the world to make sense through a single lense, the only lense - yours.

You are an idiot. Militantly, monomaniacally so.

Can you generously suggest a non-taxing method, to support Pauline's 'battlers' who are innocently/ignorantly flocking to her in droves?

Then I will cease being a 'militant monomaniac'.

Note: the 'sensible centre' has long since abandoned the "battlers", hence the current global political malaise.

I'll get back to you when I know what the ***k you are on about. Please hold breath untl then.

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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3362 Gender:	Re: Pauline, Please Explain ! Reply #77 - Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 10:10pm Well this has certainly turned into a debate for intellectualises. I’ll see myself out 😞
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Reply #78 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 12:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:35pm:

Crippled brain lee: fossil energy includes coal.
I mentioned the Arab oil embargo as the reason for the triumph of neoliberalism over Keynesianism, in the 70s.

Yes and that was oil, so nothing to do with coal. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:35pm:

Fun fact: Liberal SA premier Sir Thomas Playford nationalized the electriciry supply based on cleap brown coal at Leigh Creek.

And now Adelaide has one of the more expensive electricity rate, not on coal. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:35pm:

You still haven't presented YOUR policies to achieve somewhat lasting majority support for an elected government, necessary to overcome the current global political malaise.

The only policies we need are honest politicians, that will overcome the "political malaise". You are confusing politics and economics, they may be intertwined, they are not the same. Roll Eyes

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 58891 Gender:	Re: Pauline, Please Explain ! Reply #79 - Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 1:19pm Don Farrell: Labor must stick to the centre to see off One Nation The senior cabinet minister echoes Barnaby Joyce’s call that the December terrorist attack ignited One Nation as he makes the case for the federal government to abandon “woke” virtue-signalling.
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Captain Nemo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15755 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Pauline, Please Explain ! Reply #80 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 10:31am "Labor must stick to the centre to see off One Nation." Huh? You mean they are planning on moving from the far left back to the centre?
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Reply #81 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 10:40am

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 10:31am:

"Labor must stick to the centre to see off One Nation."

Huh?

You mean they are planning on moving from the far left back to the centre? Wink

Labor have just done a deal with the Greens - again - to get their shyte so called "taxation reforms" through Parliament.

The handbrake has failed ... as Australia plummets to the bottom.

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Reply #82 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 11:41am

Pauline Hanson claims Nine is “trying to sack” breakfast television host Karl Stefanovic after over his interview with prominent British activist Tommy Robinson after the vision of the sit down was disappeared from digital multiple platforms carrying his eponymous Karl Stefanovic Show overnight.

Reposting breakfast show host’s interview with Robinson shorty after 8am on Wednesday, Hanson claimed: “It looks like they’re trying to sack my good friend Karl Stefanovic for this video with Tommy Robinson!”

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Reply #84 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 1:32pm

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 9:23pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 9:02pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:25pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:01pm:

Frank wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 6:14pm:

The Great Parrot understands nothing excep that government shpuld just print money to pay for everything.

Everything else is lizzard-brained neocon wizardry.

'Socialist' neocon wizardry - please explain...? Unless you mean neoliberalism is "lizzard brained" - which it is.

As for "printing money", I already said an alternative policy is to tax the rich so government can deliver the essentials for all without taxing average wage earners.

In any case, the same question to you as to the mentally incompetent lee (I see he is still banging on about renewables - as if reversion to private fossil exploitation will solve the current global political malaise):

What government policies will create satisfaction among a sizable majority, which is the topic of this thread - 'Pauline, please explain!'.

You also too mentally incompetent to state some policies which will overcome the current global political malaise, caused by conflicting ideology re 'tax or not to tax'....?

Today's word (like everyday's word) is

MONOMANIAC.

It takes maniacs like you, pal, to distil the world into a single mania.

Because you are hopelessly simple minded, you need the world to make sense through a single lense, the only lense - yours.

You are an idiot. Militantly, monomaniacally so.

Can you generously suggest a non-taxing method, to support Pauline's 'battlers' who are innocently/ignorantly flocking to her in droves?

Then I will cease being a 'militant monomaniac'.

Note: the 'sensible centre' has long since abandoned the "battlers", hence the current global political malaise.

I'll get back to you when I know what the ***k you are on about. Please hold breath untl then.

You didn't understand my question?

Let's try again, using different words to the original, namely "Can you generously suggest a non-taxing method, to support Pauline's 'battlers' who are innocently/ignorantly flocking to her in droves"....

Let's try: What is your policy to enable government to support the 'battlers' who (according to latest polls) are abandoning the Coalition AND Labor , without raising taxes?

btw, the same question is currently being asked of 'socialist' Burnham in the UK, rather than 'Reform' (ON's equivalent), because the 'socialist' beat the 'extreme Rght ("Reform)" in the Manchester election.

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Re: Pauline, Please Explain !
Reply #85 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm

lee wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 12:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:35pm:

Crippled brain lee: fossil energy includes coal.
I mentioned the Arab oil embargo as the reason for the triumph of neoliberalism over Keynesianism, in the 70s.

Yes and that was oil, so nothing to do with coal. Roll Eyes

1. Crippled brain lee: SA Premier Playford nationalized the coal industry because

(google)

The private utility company refused to extend electricity networks into rural and regional areas, prioritizing only profitable urban markets. Nationalization allowed the state to build the required infrastructure to foster statewide agricultural and industrial growth

2. The Arab oid embargo in the 7O's crashed the 1946-1970's Keynesian 'deficit-spending' economic system (under which Playford was governing) in favour of Neoliberalism, which requires low taxes and "small government" (low spending) - which has led to the current political malaise around the globe, because governments can't fund the services the 'battlers' want.

That's why ON - the "Populist Right" (as opposed to the 'centre' Coaltion) now has c.30% of the primary vote.

3. The only way coal would reduce prices in Oz now would be under nationalization, as in Playford's time, because private companies need profits, whereas the state doesn't need profits, it needs to promote economic development (Playford's goal in SA).

4. Oz has gas reserves, not oil.

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And now Adelaide has one of the more expensive electricity rate, not on coal. Roll Eyes

Crippled brain lee:

"The Electricity Trust of South Australia (ETSA), the state-owned monopoly provider, was privatized in 1999 by the Liberal state government under Premier John Olsen".

And today governments everywhere need to renationalize the power industry, to fund the needed smart grid and storage to utilize renewables - provided for free by the sun and wind.

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The only policies we need are honest politicians, that will overcome the "political malaise". You are confusing politics and economics, they may be intertwined, they are not the same. Roll Eyes

1. You are still refusing to identify what the policies of "honest" polticians should be, in order to serve the electorate including the 'battlers' who polls show are very angry with mainstream politicians - whether honest or dishonest.

ie how can pollies do their job without raising taxes - thereby avoiding the current global political malaise?

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Re: Pauline, Please Explain !
Reply #86 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 3:35pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

2. The Arab oid embargo in the 7O's crashed the 1946-1970's Keynesian 'deficit-spending' economic system (under which Playford was governing) in favour of Neoliberalism, which requires low taxes and "small government" (low spending) - which has led to the current political malaise around the globe, because governments can't fund the services the 'battlers' want.

And MMT would magically fix it. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

3. The only way coal would reduce prices in Oz now would be under nationalization, as in Playford's time, because private companies need profits, whereas the state doesn't need profits, it needs to promote economic development (Playford's goal in SA).

How would nationalisation reducethe cost. We know the heavy hand of governbment increases cost. Any supposed savings would be eaten up by union demands. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

4. Oz has gas reserves, not oil.

Actually it has both.

"Map shows brutal truth about Australia’s fuel crisis as the country sits on 42 years’ worth of oil reserves"

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/map-shows-brutal-trut...

you should try removing your blinkers. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

And today governments everywhere need to renationalize the power industry, to fund the needed smart grid and storage to utilize renewables - provided for free by the sun and wind.

Yes wind and sun are free. the coillection, transmision,storage etc are not. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

1. You are still refusing to identify what the policies of "honest" polticians should be, in order to serve the electorate including the 'battlers' who polls show are very angry with mainstream politicians - whether honest or dishonest.

ie how can pollies do their job without raising taxes - thereby avoiding the current global political malaise?

You claim MMT will solve it, Job done. Grin

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Reply #89 - Jun 24^th, 2026 at 6:28pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 24^th, 2026 at 2:23pm:

lee wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2026 at 12:58pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2026 at 8:35pm:

Crippled brain lee: fossil energy includes coal.
I mentioned the Arab oil embargo as the reason for the triumph of neoliberalism over Keynesianism, in the 70s.

Yes and that was oil, so nothing to do with coal. Roll Eyes

1. Crippled brain lee: SA Premier Playford nationalized the coal industry because

(google)

The private utility company refused to extend electricity networks into rural and regional areas, prioritizing only profitable urban markets. Nationalization allowed the state to build the required infrastructure to foster statewide agricultural and industrial growth

2. The Arab oid embargo in the 7O's crashed the 1946-1970's Keynesian 'deficit-spending' economic system (under which Playford was governing) in favour of Neoliberalism, which requires low taxes and "small government" (low spending) - which has led to the current political malaise around the globe, because governments can't fund the services the 'battlers' want.

That's why ON - the "Populist Right" (as opposed to the 'centre' Coaltion) now has c.30% of the primary vote.

3. The only way coal would reduce prices in Oz now would be under nationalization, as in Playford's time, because private companies need profits, whereas the state doesn't need profits, it needs to promote economic development (Playford's goal in SA).

4. Oz has gas reserves, not oil.

Quote:

And now Adelaide has one of the more expensive electricity rate, not on coal. Roll Eyes

Crippled brain lee:

"The Electricity Trust of South Australia (ETSA), the state-owned monopoly provider, was privatized in 1999 by the Liberal state government under Premier John Olsen".

And today governments everywhere need to renationalize the power industry, to fund the needed smart grid and storage to utilize renewables - provided for free by the sun and wind.

Quote:

The only policies we need are honest politicians, that will overcome the "political malaise". You are confusing politics and economics, they may be intertwined, they are not the same. Roll Eyes

1. You are still refusing to identify what the policies of "honest" polticians should be, in order to serve the electorate including the 'battlers' who polls show are very angry with mainstream politicians - whether honest or dishonest.

ie how can pollies do their job without raising taxes - thereby avoiding the current global political malaise?

You dumb phuk - Australia exports about 96% of its domestically produced crude oil and condensate, averaging roughly 227,000 barrels per day.

You are making an artform of talking through your arse.

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