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Reply #120 - Today at 12:56pm

Monoculture explained.

A lot of politicians and media are still confused about the term monoculture.

They’ve tried to claim it means no one will have any takeaway to choose from, what nonsense.

It’s pretty simple. We want everyone, no matter colour, ethnicity or background, to be united under one flag and travelling towards the one goal: of a fair and equal Australia.

Have a listen to this 2GB segment on the monoculture.
https://x.com/PaulineHansonOz/status/2071014508408275203

Monoculture = FIFO. What's wrong with that? Why NOT fit in? Why pull in all differente - diverse, dread word - directions???

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Reply #121 - Today at 2:18pm

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:54pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:32pm:

Nonsense.

She - like many others - didn't like the large scale unassimilating Asians.
It has never been anytging else. Become Australian. Come at a rate that enables assimilation.

I must admit I thought I was in China when I last walked through Chatswood (10 years ago); but the vast majority of these people are obviously assimilated Asians, ie they cause no political violence c.f. Muslim fundamentalists.

Pauline just didn't like the change in ethnic appearance at the time.

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Being swamped by Asians = the came in such large numbers thag many if not most were able to remain unassimilated. So now you have whole suburbs where the shop signs are in Chinese, Vietnamese, Arabic. And they maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia.
Now they exert sectarian, efnic political power.
Nuts to that.

Like Jews celebrating their 'culture' in public at Bondi Beach, when Israel is the most hated nation on the planet?

btw, I had no trouble shopping or finding a meal in Chatswood.

That is a really moronic come-back even by your standards.

How so?

You wrote "(immigrants who) maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia".

eg, Jews openly celebrating their 'culture' in public, at a time when illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine is fueling Islamic terrorism?

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Reply #122 - Today at 3:39pm

lee wrote Yesterday at 9:46pm:

[quote author=AusbetterWorld link=1781654639/117#117 date=1782642057]Point to where I admitted that...

You claimed (in #117) "(TGD) has already admitted that he doesn't know if Australia has sufficient resources".

In fact I'm the one claiming Oz has enough resources to house, clothe, feed and employ everyone.

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So the Government knows because it has all the data, it means you DON"T. Roll Eyes

Crippled-brain lee at his most incompetent:

1. AI makes it possible for government to collect and analyze all the data (eg census, tax records, productive enterprises etc), with a view to formulatuing policies to eradicating poverty, since there is no shortage of resources which would prevent it.

2. Of course I don't have access to the data which will need to be collected and analyzed by governement.

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So point me to where it says induction is foolproof. Roll Eyes

"Logic....relying on facts and structured rules of inference"

eg, given there are enough resources in Oz to house, clothe, feed and employ everyone, government can eradicate poverty.

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Ai: "Inductive reasoning is not foolproof; it produces conclusions that are probable but not certain. The conclusions drawn from inductive reasoning can be false even if the premises are true."

Probable but not certain?

So how about the other logical approach to arrive at the truth; ie, empirical testing - to determine whether the Oz govt CAN mobilize resources to eradicate poverty.....

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Now all you have to do is show you are using "correct reasoning". Something you have signally failed to do. Roll Eyes

Logic.

There are enough resources in Oz to securely house everyone etc etc

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TGD:The proof is the failing status quo.

That is not proof of the alternative theory. Roll Eyes

Crippled brain lee: lack of resources is not the problem: so, to eradicate poverty, the government must either

1. Increase taxes to fund a poverty-eradication program,

or

2. Utilize another - logic-based - method to deal with the present failing Neoclassical economic system (which is based on obsolete 'invisible hand' market dogma).

Rather than denying that the status quo is now rejected by a large enough number of voters (the topic of this thread) to force politicans to make meaningful change, you could use your brain to suggest alternatives to the current delusional Neoclassicsl models based on non-existent "competing, rational, informed consumers"(!) as taught in Uni economics departments.

Pauline needs your help...

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You are losing again. It shows. Grin

Nah, your Neanderthal greed/survival of the organism instincts inform your every utterance.

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Nothing there says anythin about battlers.

Crippled brain lee: Pauline herself (at the NPC) spoke extensively of Oz's "battlers" being ignored by the government.

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AI : "No, Australian battlers are not the majority of the population. They represent a specific demographic of working-class individuals who face financial hardships, but Australia has a diverse population with varying socioeconomic statuses."

Addressed above: enough voters are forcing mainstream politicians to change the status quo - which is why we are now discussing (the rise of) Pauline's ON on the backs of disillusioned former voters for the mainstream Lab-Lib duopoly.

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Lost again in your own fantasy.

Refuted above; ON's rise is real.

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Reply #123 - Today at 3:45pm

Grappler Racist Filth wrote Yesterday at 11:56pm:

One Nation took a hit in the polls - Labor 30% - ON 28% ... with the proviso that the figures were all within errors...... you really have to laugh at the sheer desperation of Der Reischsleiters ...

Desperation caused by pollies fooled by dominant Neoclassical economics, as noted by Prof . Steve Keen:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/1470

#1472.

What lies behind Starmer's resignation?

Kier Starmer’s resignation was driven by many factors, not least that he had all the charisma of a bus timetable. But the deep reason for his failure was that he continued the Neoliberal policies which have been followed by every UK leader since Maggie Thatcher.

The proponents of these policies believed that they would accelerate economic growth so much, in comparison to the preceding “Keynesian” policies, that UK citizens would no longer need welfare, public education, or public health. Why accept the State’s services, when you will be so much wealthier that you can save for your retirement easily, and pay for private education and private health cover.

Whoops: when you check the data, Neoliberalism did not deliver on its promise of higher growth. Dating Neoliberalism from the mid-1970s, the UK’s per capita economic growth between 1975 and 2019 (thus leaving out the effect of the pandemic) was 0.8% per year lower than growth between 1946 and 1975.

This was not a British abberation, but the norm: virtually every advanced economy grew more slowly under Neoliberalism than it did under the “bad old” Keynesian period (1946-1975).

It comes down to two major factors:

Neoliberalism deregulated the finance sector, and led to speculative lending rather than genuine investment; and

Cutting the government deficit actually terminated fiat money creation, which led to less money being available to enable investment out of cash flow.

Starmer was therefore another political victim of Neoliberalism. Sold to political parties as the basis for continued economic and therefore electoral success, it has impoverished the working and middle classes, and led to its political champions losing office.

Six have lost office so far in the UK, without completing their terms. Since the next UK Prime Minister in Waiting, Andy Burnham, is likely to continue these policies, there are likely to be seven Prime Ministerial victims of Neoliberalism before the next UK election.

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Reply #124 - Today at 3:55pm

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 2:18pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:54pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:32pm:

Nonsense.

She - like many others - didn't like the large scale unassimilating Asians.
It has never been anytging else. Become Australian. Come at a rate that enables assimilation.

I must admit I thought I was in China when I last walked through Chatswood (10 years ago); but the vast majority of these people are obviously assimilated Asians, ie they cause no political violence c.f. Muslim fundamentalists.

Pauline just didn't like the change in ethnic appearance at the time.

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Being swamped by Asians = the came in such large numbers thag many if not most were able to remain unassimilated. So now you have whole suburbs where the shop signs are in Chinese, Vietnamese, Arabic. And they maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia.
Now they exert sectarian, efnic political power.
Nuts to that.

Like Jews celebrating their 'culture' in public at Bondi Beach, when Israel is the most hated nation on the planet?

btw, I had no trouble shopping or finding a meal in Chatswood.

That is a really moronic come-back even by your standards.

How so?

You wrote "(immigrants who) maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia".

eg, Jews openly celebrating their 'culture' in public, at a time when illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine is fueling Islamic terrorism?

They had a picnic in a park, ya numpty.

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Reply #125 - Today at 4:03pm

Frank wrote Today at 3:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 2:18pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:54pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:32pm:

Nonsense.

She - like many others - didn't like the large scale unassimilating Asians.
It has never been anytging else. Become Australian. Come at a rate that enables assimilation.

I must admit I thought I was in China when I last walked through Chatswood (10 years ago); but the vast majority of these people are obviously assimilated Asians, ie they cause no political violence c.f. Muslim fundamentalists.

Pauline just didn't like the change in ethnic appearance at the time.

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Being swamped by Asians = the came in such large numbers thag many if not most were able to remain unassimilated. So now you have whole suburbs where the shop signs are in Chinese, Vietnamese, Arabic. And they maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia.
Now they exert sectarian, efnic political power.
Nuts to that.

Like Jews celebrating their 'culture' in public at Bondi Beach, when Israel is the most hated nation on the planet?

btw, I had no trouble shopping or finding a meal in Chatswood.

That is a really moronic come-back even by your standards.

How so?

You wrote "(immigrants who) maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia".

eg, Jews openly celebrating their 'culture' in public, at a time when illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine is fueling Islamic terrorism?

They had a picnic in a park, ya numpty.

"Jewish people were gathered at Bondi Beach on the day of the massacre to attend "Chanukah by the Sea," an annual community celebration marking the first night of the Hanukkah festival".

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Reply #126 - Today at 4:35pm

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 4:03pm:

Frank wrote Today at 3:55pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 2:18pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 7:54pm:

thegreatdivide wrote Yesterday at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote Yesterday at 5:32pm:

Nonsense.

She - like many others - didn't like the large scale unassimilating Asians.
It has never been anytging else. Become Australian. Come at a rate that enables assimilation.

I must admit I thought I was in China when I last walked through Chatswood (10 years ago); but the vast majority of these people are obviously assimilated Asians, ie they cause no political violence c.f. Muslim fundamentalists.

Pauline just didn't like the change in ethnic appearance at the time.

Quote:

Being swamped by Asians = the came in such large numbers thag many if not most were able to remain unassimilated. So now you have whole suburbs where the shop signs are in Chinese, Vietnamese, Arabic. And they maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia.
Now they exert sectarian, efnic political power.
Nuts to that.

Like Jews celebrating their 'culture' in public at Bondi Beach, when Israel is the most hated nation on the planet?

btw, I had no trouble shopping or finding a meal in Chatswood.

That is a really moronic come-back even by your standards.

How so?

You wrote "(immigrants who) maintain their culture, customs, language, manners etc in the public place in Australia".

eg, Jews openly celebrating their 'culture' in public, at a time when illegal Jewish occupation of Palestine is fueling Islamic terrorism?

They had a picnic in a park, ya numpty.

"Jewish people were gathered at Bondi Beach on the day of the massacre to attend "Chanukah by the Sea," an annual community celebration marking the first night of the Hanukkah festival".

Yeah, a picnic, ya dumb parrot.

On the first day of Hanukkah, celebrants begin by lighting the first candle of the hanukkiyah (menorah) at sundown. This joyous festival of lights is marked by reciting special blessings, spinning the dreidel, exchanging gifts, and gathering to feast on traditional fried foods like potato latkes and sufganiyot (jelly doughnuts).

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Reply #127 - Today at 6:16pm

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

In fact I'm the one claiming Oz has enough resources to house, clothe, feed and employ everyone.

So you don't have any proof, just another BS story. Claiming it does not make it so. Roll Eyes

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

1. AI makes it possible for government to collect and analyze all the data (eg census, tax records, productive enterprises etc), with a view to formulatuing policies to eradicating poverty, since there is no shortage of resources which would prevent it.

2. Of course I don't have access to the data which will need to be collected and analyzed by governement.

so therefore you don't KNOW that we have the resources. Just another BS story. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

"Logic....relying on facts and structured rules of inference"

eg, given there are enough resources in Oz to house, clothe, feed and employ everyone, government can eradicate poverty.

So logically, because you don't KNOW whether we have the resources... you are full of sch1t. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

Probable but not certain?

Precisely.

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

So how about the other logical approach to arrive at the truth; ie, empirical testing - to determine whether the Oz govt CAN mobilize resources to eradicate poverty.....

When you get a country to do the empirical testing let us know. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

Logic.

Which as stated above can produce more BS. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

There are enough resources in Oz to securely house everyone etc etc

You don't know that. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

lack of resources is not the problem: so, to eradicate poverty, the government must either

You keep saying that but you don't know that. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

Rather than denying that the status quo is now rejected by a large enough number of voters (the topic of this thread) to force politicans to make meaningful change, you could use your brain to suggest alternatives to the current delusional Neoclassicsl models based on non-existent "competing, rational, informed consumers"(!) as taught in Uni economics departments.

A large number of voters? So no longer the majority. Grin

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

Pauline herself (at the NPC) spoke extensively of Oz's "battlers" being ignored by the government.

Did she say they were the majority/ Your claim. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

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AI : "No, Australian battlers are not the majority of the population. They represent a specific demographic of working-class individuals who face financial hardships, but Australia has a diverse population with varying socioeconomic statuses."

Addressed above:

Translation : " What I said was BS". Grin

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

Refuted above; ON's rise is real.

And I never said anything different. Cool

thegreatdivide wrote Today at 3:39pm:

Addressed above:

Another translation - " I still lied". Grin

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Reply #128 - Today at 8:11pm

In two new polls taken in the week after Pauline Hanson’s June 17 National Press Club address, support for One Nation and the Coalition combined is down three points to 46% in Newspoll and four points to 47% in Redbridge.

Support for Labor and the Greens combined is up five points to 46% in Newspoll and four points to 44% in Redbridge. In Redbridge’s respondent allocated two-party estimate, Labor’s lead over One Nation has surged five points to 56–44.

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