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Effect of batteries to Aussie electrical grid
Jun 3rd, 2026 at 8:01pm
 
Australia, where household energy bills are to fall 10% from 1 July 2026, is executing an industrial slaughter of legacy gas peakers
>In 1st quarter of 2026, battery systems tripled their daytime-to-evening energy shifting compared to last year. Batteries surged 1,115 MW of clean power into the evening peak, hitting a record discharge of 3,556 MW
>Batteries became the grid's primary price-setting mechanism, dictating terms in 32% of all trading intervals
>Gas-powered generation collapsed to its lowest quarterly average since 1999 (dropping to an average of just 712 MW). It's in terminal structural decline
>Average wholesale electricity spot prices plummeted by 12% y-on-y to AU$73/MWh
>In Victoria, wholesale prices crashed by 28% to an average of just AU$43/MWh
>Four million households and businesses are now generating free power, acting as the biggest power plant in the country
>One in every 25 homes has a battery today, with 415,000 active residential storage systems
>Because of this unstoppable wave of clean energy and storage, residents in Queensland, New South Wales, and South Australia will receive 100% free  electricity from 11:00am to 2:00pm starting next month
>Australia’s battery capacity additions surged by nearly 8 GW in a single year, a nine-fold increase. Utility-scale systems skyrocketed to 4.2 GW, while behind-the-meter household storage hit 3.4 GW
>Battery storage now commands a massive 18% of all installed dispatchable capacity in Australia (China is at 7%, the US at 5%, and Europe at 4%
Storing free solar during the day and dumping it into the evening peak has permanently flattened the daily price curve, bringing down forward electricity contract prices and passing the savings directly to consumers
Every solar + battery is a national security shield
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Re: Effect of batteries to Aussie electrical grid
Reply #1 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 8:30pm
 
Lucky we didn't go nuclear:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levelized_cost_of_electricity
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Re: Effect of batteries to Aussie electrical grid
Reply #2 - Jun 3rd, 2026 at 9:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2026 at 8:30pm:
Lucky we didn't go nuclear:



We could have acquired a few nuclear reactors with the money we spent on Snowy Hydro 2.0 which is way behing schedule.
Snowy 2.0 doesn't produce power factor in efficiency losses it consumes power.

Friends in the US get really cheap off peak power thanks to nuclear you can't throttle it back so elctric companies drop the price to encourage people to use it.
Cheap off peak would be great here for heating in winter and AC in summer along with recharging EVs while you sleep.

Asked ChatGp to compare wind solar and nuclear from plants that are up and running over 60 years into $AUD nuclear is a clear winner.


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Re: Effect of batteries to Aussie electrical grid
Reply #3 - Jun 4th, 2026 at 8:23am
 
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We could have acquired a few nuclear reactors with the money we spent on Snowy Hydro 2.0 which is way behing schedule.


Snowy 2 is project to cost between 20 and 40 billion dollars. According to your table, the nuclear plant cost 220 billion dollars. And would somehow be free to run.

Did you get your maths backwards?

How long do you think it would take Australia to build its first ever, and most likely only, commercial scale nuclear reactor? Do you believe the timeline that the liberal party gave us?

Do you think it is clever to go with the option that is already the most expensive, is one of only a small few whose price is trending up, and whose price is going up at the fastest rate?
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Reply #4 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 1:03pm
 
Germany is paying households to charge their EVs at night — and using 4 million car batteries as a single giant grid storage asset.

The concept is called Vehicle-to-Grid, and Germany is deploying it at a scale that makes every previous trial look like a proof of concept.
Under Germany's amended Energy Industry Act, EV owners can register their vehicle's battery as a grid asset — allowing the grid operator to draw power from the car during peak demand periods and charge it during surplus periods, automatically, without driver involvement.
In exchange, the owner receives payments that offset a significant portion of their electricity costs.

Volkswagen's bidirectional charging system — deployed across its ID. series vehicles from 2023 — supports up to 11 kilowatts of Vehicle-to-Grid discharge.
A single ID.4 with a 77-kilowatt-hour battery can discharge enough electricity to power an average German home for three days.
Four million such vehicles — the number of EVs on German roads by 2025 — represent a theoretical grid storage asset of 308,000 megawatt-hours.
That is more storage than all of Germany's dedicated grid-scale battery installations combined, distributed across the country, plugged in every night when electricity demand is lowest and renewables are most abundant.
The economics compound the physics.
German EV owners who participate in Vehicle-to-Grid schemes buy electricity at off-peak rates — as low as €0.08 per kilowatt-hour at night — and sell it back during peak periods at rates that can reach €0.35 per kilowatt-hour.
The car earns money while the owner sleeps.
The grid gets storage it did not have to build.
The renewable energy that would otherwise be curtailed finds a use.
Every party in the transaction wins simultaneously. Germany is not building a battery storage network.
It is discovering that it already has one, parked in 4 million driveways.
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Reply #5 - Jun 6th, 2026 at 2:51pm
 
Finland discovered that old electric vehicle batteries — the ones too degraded for cars — are perfect for storing wind energy at substation scale.
A lithium-ion battery removed from an electric vehicle after ten years of use has typically lost 20 to 30% of its original capacity. For a car, this degradation is a performance problem — reduced range, slower acceleration. For a stationary grid storage application, where the battery sits in a container beside a substation and charges and discharges slowly once or twice a day, the remaining 70 to 80% capacity is entirely adequate and costs almost nothing to acquire.
Fortum, the Finnish energy company, operates one of Europe's most advanced second-life battery programs. Batteries retired from Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe, and BMW i3 vehicles are collected, tested, sorted by remaining capacity, and repackaged into modular storage units that are deployed at substations across Finland's distribution network.
The cost of storage capacity from second-life batteries is approximately 40% lower than equivalent new battery systems — making grid storage economically viable at locations where new battery economics would not justify investment.
The environmental logic compounds the financial one.
Manufacturing a new battery requires mining lithium, cobalt, nickel, and manganese — a process with significant energy and environmental cost.
Extending the useful life of an existing battery through a second-life application delays the need for that mining by a decade or more.
Finland is not just making grid storage cheaper.
It is making the entire battery lifecycle more efficient — squeezing every electron of useful service from materials that took enormous resources to produce.
The battery that drove a Finnish commuter for ten years will store Finnish wind power for ten more.
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Reply #6 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:07pm
 
Germany's grid-scale battery storage fleet produced a market behaviour in 2024 that economic modellers had not anticipated — batteries began actively destabilising the business case for gas peaker plants so effectively that two German gas peaker operators announced decommissioning of 800 MW of capacity that still had 15 years of design life remaining, writing off assets worth €340 million rather than continuing to lose money competing against storage.

The mechanism is the wholesale electricity market's intraday price structure.
Gas peakers earn revenue by starting quickly when electricity prices spike during demand peaks — typically morning and evening on weekdays.
The start cost of a gas turbine — fuel, maintenance wear, and start permit — means peakers require prices above €150/MWh to justify operation.
German grid-scale batteries, which have near-zero variable costs and can discharge within 200 milliseconds, systematically bid into every price spike below €150/MWh, capturing the revenue window before gas turbines can profitably respond.

AI trading algorithms running the battery storage fleet have become so sophisticated at predicting German intraday price spikes that they consistently pre-position discharge before the spike materialises — further reducing the duration and magnitude of price events that gas peakers depend on.
The AI is not just competing with gas peakers in the market. It is eliminating the market conditions that make gas peakers viable.
The two decommissioned plants — one in Bavaria, one in North Rhine-Westphalia — represent the first commercial acknowledgement that battery storage has made gas peak generation structurally uneconomic in the German market, not just occasionally competitive.

The AI did not beat gas peakers in a fair fight. It changed the game rules entirely.
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Re: Effect of batteries to Aussie electrical grid
Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2026 at 3:11pm
 
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The AI did not beat gas peakers in a fair fight. It changed the game rules entirely.


The rules are the same. The fight is fair. Gas lost because batteries are cheaper. That's all there is to it.
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