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Reply #60 - May 28th, 2026 at 1:27pm
 
BTW - according to wiki the RCP scenarios came into being in 2014. which is after 2013. So that graph was merely hindcasting.

"The IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) began to use these four pathways for climate modeling and research in 2014"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_Concentration_Pathway
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Reply #61 - May 28th, 2026 at 2:39pm
 
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So that graph was merely hindcasting.


It was comparing actual emissions with the assumptions used by various models from the past, so as to make it bleeding obvious why RPC 8.5 was abandoned. Again, for the liberal party rusted-ons, it was not because the science was "debunked".
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Reply #62 - May 28th, 2026 at 3:16pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 2:39pm:
gain, for the liberal party rusted-ons, it was not because the science was "debunked".



The science as predicted, postulated, forecast by RCP8.5 has definitely been debunked. It was obvious from 2013 that it wasn't plausible, before they even started using it. Roll Eyes

Why won't you tell us where you get your ideas from? Wink
And of course comparing to the assumptions of the past, show they were out of whack too. Why did it take 13 years to remove it? Wink
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Reply #63 - May 28th, 2026 at 3:48pm
 
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The science as predicted, postulated, forecast by RCP8.5 has definitely been debunked.


It is the same science Lee. Contrary to liberal party propaganda, climate science is not about predicting human activity. It is about predicting the consequences. The same science used to predict the consequences of RCP8.5 level GHG emissions is used to predict the consequence of all the other rates of GHG emissions.

Do you think this idiotic propaganda might cease once the liberal party is dead and buried?
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Reply #64 - May 28th, 2026 at 4:51pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 3:48pm:
It is the same science Lee. Contrary to liberal party propaganda, climate science is not about predicting human activity. It is about predicting the consequences. The same science used to predict the consequences of RCP8.5 level GHG emissions is used to predict the consequence of all the other rates of GHG emissions.



Ah, that must be why the majority of "climate scientists" did their predictions, postulation, on RCP8.5. Roll Eyes

You still haven't told us where you got theory from. Scared of being lampooned? Cool

So it was science what got them to RCP8.5 and the supposed consequences, based on two to three times coal use by mid century. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #65 - May 28th, 2026 at 6:38pm
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2026 at 3:00pm:
I think it is inevitable. And that they should do it now, to kick the liberals while they are down.

Policies are simple - basically a copy of liberal party policies, except on climate and nuclear power.

They will have to have policies regardless, because they will eventually hold the balance of power or form minority government.



Ahh speaks volumes about you FD.

a Labor Lite Liberal with climate change syndrome  Grin

You & your yuppie mates are toast.

People have had a gut full of you silvertail wankers from any perspective.
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Reply #66 - May 28th, 2026 at 7:00pm
 
lee wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 4:51pm:
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 3:48pm:
It is the same science Lee. Contrary to liberal party propaganda, climate science is not about predicting human activity. It is about predicting the consequences. The same science used to predict the consequences of RCP8.5 level GHG emissions is used to predict the consequence of all the other rates of GHG emissions.



Ah, that must be why the majority of "climate scientists" did their predictions, postulation, on RCP8.5. Roll Eyes


No they didn't. The majority of them abandoned RCP 8.5. The majority of them took the mid range prediction to be the mid range prediction.

The liberal party merely told whatever morons would believe them that the majority of scientists mistook the worst case scenerio for anything but the worst case scenario. And the morons did not even realise that RCP 8.5 was an assumption emissions levels.

This is why so few people vote liberal. They don't like being lied to. Well, most people don't, at least.
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Reply #67 - May 28th, 2026 at 7:03pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 7:00pm:
lee wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 4:51pm:
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 3:48pm:
It is the same science Lee. Contrary to liberal party propaganda, climate science is not about predicting human activity. It is about predicting the consequences. The same science used to predict the consequences of RCP8.5 level GHG emissions is used to predict the consequence of all the other rates of GHG emissions.



Ah, that must be why the majority of "climate scientists" did their predictions, postulation, on RCP8.5. Roll Eyes


No they didn't. The majority of them abandoned RCP 8.5. The majority of them took the mid range prediction to be the mid range prediction.

The liberal party merely told whatever morons would believe them that the majority of scientists mistook the worst case scenerio for anything but the worst case scenario. And the morons did not even realise that RCP 8.5 was an assumption emissions levels.

This is why so few people vote liberal. They don't like being lied to. Well, most people don't, at least.


You wanker ... I hope you never get to climb Mt. Warning or carry out any other freedom you claim to be unethically or politically denied.
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Reply #68 - May 28th, 2026 at 7:45pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 7:00pm:
The majority of them abandoned RCP 8.5


That must be why according to AI that there have been over 12,000 peer-reviewed papers in the last 10 years. Wink

And you still haven't told us where you get your beliefs. Wink
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Reply #69 - May 28th, 2026 at 8:50pm
 
lee wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 7:45pm:
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 7:00pm:
The majority of them abandoned RCP 8.5


That must be why according to AI that there have been over 12,000 peer-reviewed papers in the last 10 years. Wink

And you still haven't told us where you get your beliefs. Wink


Are you trying to say something Lee? Or just dribbling incoherently.

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I hope you never get to climb Mt. Warning or carry out any other freedom you claim to be unethically or politically denied.


Mt Warning is being reopened. And all it took was getting rid of the Liberal state government.
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Reply #70 - May 28th, 2026 at 9:34pm
 
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SIMON HOMES A COURT: Watch this angry little man with crazy eyes. This is the man that is funding the Teal candidate - Michelle Milthorpe - in the Farrer by-election.

https://x.com/SandyXiaotong/status/2048326603940487184


The Teal party should call themselves rich white Karens.

They do as Simon says
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Reply #71 - May 29th, 2026 at 8:55am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 26th, 2026 at 7:51pm:
Frank is right:

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2026/04/25/al-gore-warns-the-day-after-t...

25 Apr 2026

Former Vice President Al Gore is still making climate doom predictions, 20 years after his warnings from An Inconvenient Truth proved false — this time invoking the science fiction film The Day After Tomorrow for a rapt Hollywood audience.

Gore joined the first-ever Sustainability in Entertainment Honors event Thursday, organized by The Hollywood Reporter and the Sustainable Entertainment Alliance, for a keynote conversation with The West Wing star Bradley Whitford. The pair reminisced about the Oscar-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth, conspicuously omitting its failed prophecy that Earth’s ecosystems would reach a “tipping point” of no return, thanks to human industrial activity, in only ten years. That deadline that came and went a full decade ago.


Medieval apocalypticism was, for example, obsessed with dating the end times. Joachim of Fiore determined that the Antichrist would appear after 42 generations of 30 years, while Pope Innocent III’s Quia maior performed elaborate numerological exegeses upon the Beast’s number, 666.

Climate discourse’s own numerology mirrors that obsession: “12 years”, “eight years”, “1.5 degrees”, “350 parts per million”, “net zero by 2050”. Each figure is freighted with the urgency of revelation and the authority of numerical precision – only to be quietly superseded when the appointed hour passes uneventfully.

Failed prophecies, Richard Landes showed, didn’t destroy medieval apocalyptic movements; they intensified them as the deadline was recalibrated. So too with the ever-contracting windows to climate catastrophe, every expiration yielding not disillusionment but a new countdown, a new threshold and a new call for repentance.

In exactly the same way, medieval apocalypticism divided the world into the children of light and the children of darkness. Those who doubted the end-time’s imminence were Satan’s keepmates; those who questioned its numerological proofs were the bastard offspring of the Antichrist.

Climate discourse reproduces this structure. Sceptics are not people who need to be convinced; they are “deniers” – a term calculated to demonise them with the moral infamy of Holocaust denial. Rather than meriting a serious reply, they have to be mercilessly exposed as the malign agents of self-interest.
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Reply #72 - May 29th, 2026 at 9:02am
 
Medieval apocalypticism held out the promise of a Beautiful Ending: the millennium, the reign of the saints, the New Jerusalem. Marxism preserved that structure: the dictatorship of the proletariat would culminate in eternal abundance.

But in climate catastrophism, the utopian horizon has withered away. And because the positive vision is so threadbare, while the visions of devastation are so overwhelming, the movement’s emotional grammar is saturated with rage: rage at those who refuse to submit, rage at those who continue to doubt, rage at those who stand in the way.

Little wonder climate activists deride democracy. Instead of medieval apocalypticism’s Beautiful Ending, climate catastrophism offers only Dutiful Compliance – the insistence, echoing Marxism, that humanity can be saved solely through obedience to science’s supposedly inexorable laws, as interpreted by its infallible prophets. The science is in; the messy trade-offs that are democracy’s way of managing complex and contentious issues are out – with raising them akin to apostasy.

These are, in other words, true fanatics, willing, in Voltaire’s words, “to inundate the world with blood for the sake of unintelligible sophisms”. That the Greens can be climate extremists one day and admirers of Hamas’s death cult the next is therefore hardly surprising.

Therein, 20 years later, lies the tragedy. Science hasn’t killed apocalypticism or curbed its dangers; it has merely dressed the apocalyptic delusions in new robes. And the civilisation that believed it had escaped the “ravings of Oracles and Seers” has ended by canonising them anew – with Al Gore as their most enriched and exalted evangelist.
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Reply #73 - May 29th, 2026 at 1:05pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 8:50pm:
Are you trying to say something Lee?


I am merely pointing out you are wrong and  trying to get you to tell us where you got this wrong information. Roll Eyes
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Reply #74 - May 29th, 2026 at 1:17pm
 
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the "Teals" formed a political party?


They say that the red of the Liberals mixed with the Green of the greens to form teal.

Problem is and likely more accurate politically is that the fact is mixing red with green makes a rather ugly muted brown.

Great start for a political party that believe people are stupid and will believe anything and have concreted that into their brand.
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