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Question: Teals form their own party

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Reply #46 - May 27th, 2026 at 3:06pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on May 25th, 2026 at 2:09pm:
I have an inkling that that move would backfire.

They are more or less a voting bloc and yet they "sort of" hold a position as "independent" at elections.

However, if they formed a political party of their own, I think people might be more reluctant to vote for them.

What do ya reckon?



They are.already the Doctors' Wives Party. Or the Rich Anglo Greens ( not the feral wogs of The Greens).

The many wives is Simon Holmes a Court. All of them are middle aged women in silly glasses and pant suits.
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Reply #47 - May 27th, 2026 at 3:12pm
 
lee wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 2:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 2:36pm:
Can you explain why you responded to this by "asking" why I think the climate does not change naturally?


Well you haven't got around to the bit when it was warmer with more CO2, cooler with more CO2. 6,500 years is merely a gnat on the bun of the elephant.


So I told you that the climate was changing naturally, and you responding by asking why I think the climate was not changing naturally, and your explanation was that I didn't parrot some particular line you wanted me to?

Is this coming from some Liberal party handbook where you are not allowed to think for yourself, only to quote responses verbatim?
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Reply #48 - May 27th, 2026 at 3:25pm
 
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 3:12pm:
So I told you that the climate was changing naturally, and you responding by asking why I think the climate was not changing naturally, and your explanation was that I didn't parrot some particular line you wanted me to?



No. I wanted you to prove, or try, to prove your point. So tell us how it could warm more than it did. They are your words. Roll Eyes

You haven't shown anything about AGW, which was also your claim.
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Reply #49 - May 27th, 2026 at 3:45pm
 
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So tell us how it could warm more than it did.


If we emitted more GHG's. Sounds like another stupid question. If I am missing something, try rephrasing it.

Are you coming up with these responses yourself Lee, or copying and pasting them from another discussion or some Liberal party handbook?

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No. I wanted you to prove, or try, to prove your point.


The point was bleeding obvious, but went way over your head: contrary to your liberal party spin doctoring, actual climate change has been pretty much in line with the mid range IPCC predictions. You can confirm this yourself: simply leave the Liberal party website or whatever moronic echo chamber you are getting your posts from, read the first IPCC predictions yourself, then compare them with the last 40 years of climate data.

How exactly did you think you would encourage me to prove my point by asking me why I believe the opposite of what I posted?
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Reply #50 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:07pm
 
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
If we emitted more GHG's



But we didn't. RCP 8.5 never matched emissions or temperature past 2013. So how could we have more emissions that the worst case scenario ever envisaged. Roll Eyes

freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
Are you coming up with these responses yourself Lee, or copying and pasting them from another discussion or some Liberal party handbook?


No petal. They are just the scientific questions, YOU never ask. Cool
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Reply #51 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:18pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 26th, 2026 at 2:07pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 26th, 2026 at 8:33am:
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What if the "Teals" formed a political party?


Instead of having a bunch of useless individuals you would have a group of useless people.

No real change.


True.

And what defines being "useless"? 

I would say people who insist on arguing over "fair" taxation" and "aspiration"  are useless - witness the current uproar over Labor's tax changes supposed to engender fairness in the housing market, even though those policies won't reduce homelessness/c-o-l pressures in an unaffordable housing market, before the next election, given the effect of taxation on different individuals is impossibly complex to deal with. 

Pray tell, how would you avoid being "useless" if you had a voice in Parliament?


I see no evidence that the Teals have any interest in any of those things.

I think the current budget is awful and will get Labor thrown out.
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Reply #52 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:27pm
 
lee wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:07pm:
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
If we emitted more GHG's



But we didn't.


Duh. Round and round in idiotic circles we go, like a Liberal party supporter.
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Reply #53 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:32pm
 
lee wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:07pm:
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
If we emitted more GHG's



But we didn't. RCP 8.5 never matched emissions or temperature past 2013. So how could we have more emissions that the worst case scenario ever envisaged. Roll Eyes

freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 3:45pm:
Are you coming up with these responses yourself Lee, or copying and pasting them from another discussion or some Liberal party handbook?


No petal. They are just the scientific questions, YOU never ask. Cool


I can see your great great grandson surfing the middle of the Nullabore desert still arguing that there is no global warming.
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Reply #54 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:37pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:32pm:
I can see your great great grandson surfing the middle of the Nullabore desert still arguing that there is no global warming.



Can you? How much sea level rise would need to happen for that? References please. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #55 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:40pm
 
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:27pm:
Round and round in idiotic circles we go



You are the one going round in circles. Why? Doesn't your trheory stack up? Emissions went up, the temperature, rainfall etc did not, as postulated by RCP8.5. Smiley
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Reply #56 - May 27th, 2026 at 4:46pm
 
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Emissions went up, the temperature, rainfall etc did not, as postulated by RCP8.5.


No Lee. Emissions are not going up in line with RCP8.5. Like I already explained, this was at the high end of plausible emissions scenarios.

You are also incorrect about temperature. It did go up. It was pretty much in agreement with the mid range predictions. Not sure how you can get everything so completely backwards. Are you a liberal party senator by any chance? Can you see how the stupidity of the Liberal party and their supporters pretty much created the Teal movement? Voters do not like being treated like morons.
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Reply #57 - May 27th, 2026 at 5:18pm
 
freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:46pm:
Emissions are not going up in line with RCP8.5.



Nope. They were not.

from Nick Stokes - climate alarmist -

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freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:46pm:
Like I already explained, this was at the high end of plausible emissions scenarios.



It was never plausible. According to AI it required doubling or tripling coal use by mid century.

freediver wrote on May 27th, 2026 at 4:46pm:
You are also incorrect about temperature. It did go up. It was pretty much in agreement with the mid range predictions.



Nope have a look at that graph.

Now when are you going to quote sources for your views, or do you just believe?
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Reply #58 - May 28th, 2026 at 6:56am
 
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Nope. They were not.

from Nick Stokes - climate alarmist -


Did you look at your own evidence Lee? It shows emissions already well below RCP 8.5, with an almost flat trend. There is a reason why RCP8.5 has been pretty much universally abandoned by anyone with an ounce of common sense. And it has nothing to do with "debunking" climate science, as you and all the other liberal party clingons like to claim.
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Reply #59 - May 28th, 2026 at 12:32pm
 
freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 6:56am:
It shows emissions already well below RCP 8.5, with an almost flat trend.

And that is what shows it was not plausible. Roll Eyes

freediver wrote on May 28th, 2026 at 6:56am:
There is a reason why RCP8.5 has been pretty much universally abandoned by anyone with an ounce of common sense.


Then perhaps you can tell us what that is? it can't be that coal has had a massive decrease, it is still going up. It can't be because of renewables they only provide about 16% share of energy, up 3% since 2023. And they still rely on coal for backup. Roll Eyes

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