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Not even remotely close. Not at all.
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Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:39pm:
A very good rebuttal of all the TDS nonsense.  Written by a professor of law at Uni of Qld.

https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/america/trump-more-sinned-against-than-sin...

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♦ That under Obama and Biden (both Democrats) the FBI spied on Trump’s presidential campaign, put surveillance on some of Trump’s advisors, lied to a FISA court, fabricated a Russian collusion story to help justify a special counsel that would be used for a Trump impeachment by the House Democrats;

♦ That the Biden administration organised dozens of ex-intelligence higher-ups to announce publicly before the 2020 election that the Hunter Biden laptop story had all the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign – and did so when they all knew, all of them and most relevantly Biden and his senior people – that that was false and that the laptop was real, and we now know that later polling showed the laptop story could easily have shifted the 2020 election outcome, if voters had known it was true;

♦ That as Senator Ted Cruz has just recently made public, Biden’s FBI wiretapped the Trump Chief of Staff Susie Wiles’ phone on a privileged call to her lawyers without the consent or knowledge of either of those parties and then tried to hide this by marking the file ‘prohibited’;

♦ That the Biden administration, with the help of a few Democrat State AGs, brought four ridiculously weak indictments against Trump that threatened to put him jail for hundreds of years – and did this while he was the official opposition candidate in the upcoming presidential election;

♦ Not only that, with the clear support of the Biden administration the New York AG – a woman who ran for the post with the explicit promise to ‘get Trump’ – tried to bankrupt him with a civil suit so risible it was eventually tossed on appeal in the New York state courts. But not before Trump lost at first instance and was fined half a billion dollars.  Remember the basic facts?  Trump gives a value for Mar-a-Logo.  The lending bank sends out assessors and is completely happy with the valuation.  Trump borrows the money and then pays it back early and ahead of time.  A rabidly anti-Trump judge and Letitia James (the above New York AG) build an incoherent case that involved changing all known protocols to posit wrongdoing though all the banks were happy with the loan (and wanted to lend to him again, in fact).  This scheme of theirs also involved the AG and judge valuing Mar-a-Logo at between $18 and $27 million in order to allege some never-before-heard-of and after-the-fact type of fraud against the bank by Trump.  Forbes, by the way, later valued Mar-a-Lago at $650 million

Before Trump won in 2024 the Democrats tried to bankrupt him. They brought four criminal cases against him (two federal, two state) that would have seen him go to jail for six or seven lifetimes.  They attempted to take him off the ballot in numerous states.  The Russia collusion hoax, in my view, was far worse than anything Richard Nixon did as regards Watergate; indeed, it is not even close.  The orchestrated Hunter Biden laptop lies alone may have swung the 2020 election.  And I have not even mentioned the assassination attempts.
And that is without likewise mentioning the behaviour of illegally appointed prosecutor Jack Smith.  Or without me noting that it was Nancy Pelosi who made a fortune from insider-trading on the stock market, not Trump (who is the first President ever to refuse to take his salary).  Or that then President Obama used the IRS to target the Tea Party people.  Or that Hilary Clinton had classified information on her private server and was prima facie patently guilty of a very serious offence.  Yet she was not prosecuted by the Democrats, and when in office the first time Mr Trump thought it better not to prosecute her.


At this point let us stop and ask a question.  Because what happened to Trump came first – the Russian collusion hoax, the attempts to bankrupt, imprison and take him off the ballot, the legacy media-aided raids on Mar-a-Lago, the list goes on for some time.   And all of these precursors look to me as though they could broadly be characterised as weaponising the Biden Department of Justice and the intelligence services.  Or as systematically violating the rule of law.  Or as undermining the institutional integrity of the courts, law enforcement and the civil service.

These ALL happened to Trump first.  Hence the question: what is the proper way to respond to grievous wrongs done to oneself? How does one (or ought one to) respond when the other side has tried to imprison and bankrupt you, has spied on your campaign, has lied to the FISA courts, has triggered bogus impeachments that eat up political time and political capital, has knowingly covered up the Hunter laptop truth, has behaved far worse than Richard Nixon did?  Do you take it all on the chin and pretend it did not happen?  Or do you set out to find and prosecute the people who did this to you?


You can only judge Trump’s domestic actions in his second administration in the light of what was done to him beforehand by the Obama and Biden administrations.


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Reply #62 - Yesterday at 6:50pm
 
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:39pm:
A very good rebuttal of all the TDS nonsense.  Written by a professor of law at Uni of Qld.


Why no mention of Netanyahu's role in getting him elected in 2016?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1760407921/177#177
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Reply #63 - Yesterday at 7:59pm
 
waggawoody wrote Yesterday at 6:50pm:
Frank wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:39pm:
A very good rebuttal of all the TDS nonsense.  Written by a professor of law at Uni of Qld.


Why no mention of Netanyahu's role in getting him elected in 2016?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1760407921/177#177

It's irrelevant idiocy.

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Reply #64 - Yesterday at 8:10pm
 
The president of the United States is sitting on somewhere between $220 million and $750 million worth of stock trades made in just the first quarter of 2026 alone, and what we are watching in real time is not governance, it is a smash and grab operation run from the Oval Office. trump logged more than 3,700 financial transactions in the first three months of this year, heavy in Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and Meta. No president in modern history has come close to this level of brazen self-dealing while in office. Former White House ethics counsel Richard Painter told Forbes he had researched every preceding chief executive and found that not one of them traded individually in the stock market. This is unprecedented.
He’s robbing us blind. trump bought between $1 million and $5 million in Nvidia stock on February 10, and one week later Nvidia announced a major chip deal with Meta. He then bought more Nvidia stock roughly one week before the Commerce Department cleared Nvidia chip sales to China, a policy decision only he controlled. Then came the infamous "great time to buy" Truth Social post in April 2025, dropped hours before trump announced a tariff pause that sent the S&P 500 up 9.5 percent by close of trading. This is not a series of lucky coincidences. This is a lifelong conman who has finally found the ultimate grift, one with no consequences and no ceiling.
What makes this feel so suffocating is that the guardrails have been deliberately torn out. The trump administration gutted the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section from 36 lawyers down to two and stripped it of authority to file new cases, defanging the one office built to prosecute exactly this kind of corruption. trump never divested, never set up a real blind trust, and his empire is run by his sons while his son-in-law quietly manages billions for Gulf states. He is not governing America so much as stripping it for parts, a vulture capitalist in the White House who campaigned on draining the swamp and then turned the whole country into his personal revenue stream.
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