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Really? I have to start the budget discussion? (Read 2604 times)
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Re: Really? I have to start the budget discussion?
Reply #90 - Yesterday at 7:56pm
 
Dnarever wrote Yesterday at 7:42pm:
Non fixed Trusts make up over 80% of the million trusts (over 800,000 of them) testamentary trusts are about 1% of that number.



And I am arguing about the non fixed testamentary trusts, which you insist will not have a bearing on minors or those with other disabilities. Roll Eyes
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Reply #91 - Yesterday at 8:23pm
 
Dnarever wrote Yesterday at 1:41pm:
Frank wrote Yesterday at 11:47am:
Dnarever wrote Yesterday at 10:07am:
Bobby. wrote Yesterday at 9:25am:
I never heard of a testamentary trust until a few days ago.     Embarrassed

Could I have beaten the tax man?   Undecided


Yes - If you are both wealthy and dead (just joking). No this is less than 1% of trusts.

How this works is if you say put $2M into this type of trust funded by a death in this case. You can distribute that money at say $18K per year tax free. Because that $18.2K it the lower limit for tax and this falls under the tax starting limit there is no tax on the person who recieves the trust. It also means that anything they earn on top is taxed straight away. What the chage does is to tax at 30% any profit made on the lump sum to be paid by the  Trustee. (only the interest is taxed).

How this works:

Example: You have 4 children peing paid by the trust and a non working wife. The trust pays them $25k each.

18,200 is the current min tax threshold. That means that each recipiant would pay about $1,088 in tax.

That is income total for all 5 people  = $125,000.00
Total tax for all 5 people = $5440.00

Not a bad deal I can see why a labor gov would want to end that and why a Lib Gov wouldn't.

Yes Bobby you can do this if you have a spare $1,500,000 dollars or so laying around doing nothing but avoiding taxes.


It is 5 different people. Why would you treat them as a single recipient when you cannot similarly pool your income while you are alive and have $18k treated as tax free for every member of your household?

Avoiding to pay tax you do not have to is common sense. Not the same as tax evasion of tax you are required by law to pay.

As Packer explained, governments are not spending our money so well that we want to give them extra.


You do give them extra Frank - rich people not paying any tax means that you have to pay more - a lot more. Maybe I am incorrectly assuming that you do pay tax?

Yor really believe that rich people should not need to pay tax and that tax is only for the people who are poor and / or have average incomes ?

You really believe that multy million dollar funds should be able to 100% avoid tax on profit and at the same time fund disipersment from these funds should also be able to be managed to be tax free literally for decades. This example would ultimately disperse millions of dollars virtually tax free.

Wealth accumulated through legal, taxable enterprise.

Why tax it AGAIN just because you died?

Why is death now a taxable 'activity'?

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Reply #92 - Yesterday at 11:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 13th, 2026 at 12:15am:



Just like you kangaroo rooters stealing my healthcare
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